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Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 12, 2008, 12:58:41 PM
cant get into purple orange or blue arenas...all the others work fine...get instant udp loss switch to tcp...than game just sits doing nothing, net status flatlined.....

turned off almost all my services, nuthin changed....anyone else have this?
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 12, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
Just tried all the arenas from the house and connected up just fine.

Anti-virus?  Norton Security?  Behind a router?
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 12, 2008, 03:29:31 PM
yeah im beinhd a router linkys...ill try disconnecting it...kinda weird i can get into some arena and not others..all the Norton stuff turned off though
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 12, 2008, 04:04:09 PM
thats some sneaky stuff by norton..i enable everything and now im connecting fine..any suggestions besides getting rid of it?
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 12, 2008, 04:06:38 PM
i take that back it worked momentarily now same stuff happening
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 12, 2008, 04:18:14 PM
uninstalled norton...no joy

same stuff..can log into da..ta..axis and allies...both ma's and purple still say "udp loss..switch to tcp" than host connection lost
Title: udp loss
Post by: TwinBoom on January 12, 2008, 04:25:50 PM
u have to configure your router open ports 2000 through 6000
aloww it acess
Title: udp loss
Post by: Roscoroo on January 13, 2008, 03:11:33 AM
yep allow aceshigh 2000-6000 for your pc's ip in the linksys routor.

beshure its password protected too .  

(it happens to me when ever the power goes out ..or i roll my networks ip's )
Title: udp loss
Post by: rogerdee on January 13, 2008, 11:41:24 AM
my squad mate got a problem in that he can only get in the blue arena and other arena and he gets booted,

no router a stright dsl conction

only been happening since last server upgrade
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 13, 2008, 08:39:54 PM
i dont think ports are the prob...if i click on the arena long enuff eventually ill get a good conection..takes about 6 or 7 trys
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 14, 2008, 06:29:53 AM
I would really like to find ouot what is causing this.  Not having direct control over the computersm which are having this problem, and they are a small group makes it difficult.

What triggered it is more than likely the added ports and new IP address the server has.

This suggests firewall, or anit-virus.  Possibly the ISP blocking a specific set of ports.  It could be security software.  By the way, Norton and McAfee patch the Windows kernel as part of thier installation.  Once that patch is done, it cannot be undone.  Removing the software does not remove the patch.

That aside, it would interesting to see what commonalities there are in these systems, if any.

I cannot duplicate this issue no matter when I try or where I try from (home or work).  It is not the server itself causing this.  If it was, it would effect everyone equally.
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 14, 2008, 11:12:48 AM
all this happened after my latest Norton update   ... just fyi
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 14, 2008, 12:10:01 PM
It would not surprise me if Norton is the culprit.  I know Norton, when running under Vista, will in fact block the game from acessing the servers and there is not a setting anywhere in Norton that allows it the game to work correctly.  That's under Vista.

The only option Vista users have is to remove Norton and, in some case,  ac omplete re-install of the operating system is required to get things working correctly again.
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 14, 2008, 10:54:50 PM
well I have xp home...isopening  the ports 2000-6000 the fix?
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 15, 2008, 05:51:23 AM
The game uses a subset of ports in the range of 2000-6000 for both UDP and TCP.   Depending on your firewall/router then you might have to do that.

It used to be 2000-5000.
Title: udp loss
Post by: Max on January 15, 2008, 07:58:24 AM
How does one open ports?
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 15, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
Only applicable if you have a router or if your software firewall has port based settings available.
Title: udp loss
Post by: Waffle on January 15, 2008, 01:56:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Max
How does one open ports?


with a wine opener :p



Title: udp loss
Post by: Coach on January 15, 2008, 02:03:28 PM
now THAT is funny :rofl

But truth be known....Max just unscrews his brand of port

I didn't hijack this.....Waffle did :p
Title: udp loss
Post by: Max on January 15, 2008, 03:03:51 PM
hardy har har harr :t
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 15, 2008, 10:48:16 PM
seriously how do you open the ports?....my linskys software doent have any options for this
Title: udp loss
Post by: hubsonfire on January 16, 2008, 12:18:02 AM
If you guys can't help (and you haven't), why bother posting?  I'm all for cutting up, but is a tech support post from a player who can't connect the right place for that?.

Got to the Router setup screen, set the port range, still nothing. Is there a thread on router setup for noobs or something around here?
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 16, 2008, 06:01:02 AM
Every router is different, unfortunately.  I do not have access to a Linksys router.  All routers have a built-in firewall though.  They all default to allow normal Internet stuff.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried power cycling the router?  Consumer routers ar enot the most robust routers around and need to be re-booted occsionally.

If possible, you could also try by-passing the router to see if the problem persists.
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 17, 2008, 10:28:41 AM
tried using norton unisntall tool on website...no joy...recycled power on router than reset factory settings on router...no joy

bypassed router and everything ok...except i can only use one pc in my house now...

could use a good tutorial on router forwarding...tried many times to open ports on lynskys page..it says I was successful, but still no joy on getting into game

Help me obi wan
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 17, 2008, 10:34:00 AM
Ok, so it is the router.

What model router?  Even Linksys is not consistent between models.
Title: udp loss
Post by: jaxxo on January 17, 2008, 10:42:48 AM
:mad:

ok i restarted computer...router is bypassed and now its doin the same thing...instant udp loss
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 17, 2008, 01:14:57 PM
Hopefully we got a handle on this now.
Title: udp loss
Post by: VonMessa on January 17, 2008, 01:25:34 PM
Maybe you have heard of this one Skuzzy.....

(keep in mind I am speaking XP or earlier here, not sure about Vista)

A friend of mine is network admin at a local hospital.  When they get new rigs to set up, before they run ghost or their disc image or whatever, they ditch Norton AV (which sometimes comes pre-installed).  They ALSO use a program that might even be free/shareware called NONAV
(NONortonAntiVirus), because the normal Norton uninstall doesn't remove everything.  This NONAV rips it out by its guts though.  

But whatever the problem is, I say BLAME COMCAST (even if you don't have it) it's all their fault.
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 17, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
I have heard of that utility.  The problem is there is nothing that can undo the patches Norton and McAfee apply directly to the Windows kernel.

The only way I have found to make a computer appear as if Norton or McAfee has not been installed is to do a complete installation of the operating system again.

Of course, that is not an option with most OEM computers, which is why I stay away from OEM computers as well.
Title: udp loss
Post by: VonMessa on January 17, 2008, 06:28:18 PM
Bummer.

I blame comcast.
Title: udp loss
Post by: hubsonfire on January 18, 2008, 05:33:26 PM
Low and behold, he was on last night, connected just fine. Then, a short while later, discoed and showing 100% PL in DC somewhere.

Maybe just an ISP issue, too much traffic in the DC area?
Title: udp loss
Post by: Skuzzy on January 19, 2008, 06:11:32 AM
Could also be weather related.