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Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on January 13, 2008, 11:40:21 PM
The skin made is of:
Cpt. Kegelman AL750 Z (USAAF)

I made this skin 1 year ago, but never submitted it.
I'm hoping everyone here can let me know if there are mistakes that I should correct before submitting it.  Here are a few screenshots:
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS1.jpg)
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS2.jpg)
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS3.jpg)
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS4.jpg)
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS5.jpg)


I would like to thank Guppy, Nomde, Greebo and Krusty for all their help that they gave to me last year.  My computer had died, I was in the process of map making when in the summer I gave up due to too much frustration that the AH design programs were giving me.  I may pick up on the project again if H2H opens again and a map maker with some free time :)
I've made another skin last year, but it will never be accepted as it's a 190a3 skin.  I'm sure you know which one guppy.  He shot down the British Pilot Henning flying that Boston near Bergan Airfield.  I'll post some pictures on that later in this thread.  That skin was 99% done.  I think I was missing the german labels throughout the plane.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: MotleyCH on January 14, 2008, 12:14:56 AM
That looks awesome:aok

But I would lighten up the roundels and that red stripe a little tho.

Great job
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Guppy35 on January 14, 2008, 01:10:30 AM
Looks good Kermit.  I was wondering when that one would show up :)
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: oboe on January 14, 2008, 06:00:24 AM
That is a great looking skin, Kermit!
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Xasthur on January 14, 2008, 08:04:36 AM
Looks very nice.

A little too nice, actually. Could use a tiny bit of dirtyin' up a bit.

Nothing rediculous, just a little bit here and there.

That 190 A3 might get in as an A5? Post some screens, it might be worth a shot.

We have a few A4s in as A5s.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on January 15, 2008, 07:43:28 PM
Sometime this week, I'll lighten up the roundels by desaturating the colors abit.

Hmmm, maybe I'll try desaturating all the colors abit to make it appear more weathered.

I'll post updates this week.

190a3 skin, I'll post as well.  Now that I think about it, I may have not added the weathering, along with the missing german labels.

Edit:  Thanks for the constructive criticism all.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Emu on January 16, 2008, 04:24:30 PM
Looks great Kermit.  I dont recall when is the last time I saw a Boston flying around though :D   this might me want to start flying them once in a while.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Mus51 on January 16, 2008, 04:27:46 PM
Nice Kermit!! Good looking Boston
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on January 19, 2008, 11:57:47 PM
I added a small effect to the green paint wearing away.
Added a small effect of more "dirty" to the over paint.
I desaturated the colors of the roundels, which made them a little darker, but made the white, not so perfectly white, which was a good thing.


(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS1_2.jpg) (http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/BostonIIISS1_3.jpg)
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: splitatom on January 22, 2008, 01:48:43 PM
its is alitle to shiny brown it reflects light to bright need to be darker
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: oboe on January 22, 2008, 02:27:58 PM
If you think its too shiny, play around with the values in the material.txt file, or export the default skin from another painted aircraft and try using the material.txt from that skin.

Just darkening the color won't change its reflectivity.

Looks great but you might find some specularity values that tone down the shininess.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: rogerdee on January 22, 2008, 02:39:58 PM
its looking good
i commend you for doing such a buggy skin i have had a look at it a couple of times and its a pig:(


good work mate
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Greebo on January 22, 2008, 03:41:11 PM
That skin has turned out very nice Kermit. The Boston is an old skin so material files won't work on it, you are stuck with whatever light effects HTC applied to it.

The Boston (and the A-20G) is, as Rogerdee said, a pig to skin. There are half a dozen little patches on each wing which are applied over the nacelles in various spots. Getting them all to line up with the shading and camo is really difficult. OTOH this skin is spread over no less than three 1024 tiles, so you can get a finer level of detail than on any other plane.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on January 22, 2008, 11:24:34 PM
Thanks for the info about the material Greebo.  My weathering doesn't look as good as yours, even though I'm happy with what I've accomplished, I hope to have skills someday.

Yes it was a "pig" to skin, due to all the little glitches in it, but using macros really took seconds to see the updates on the skin, which saved me lots of time.  I'd make a change to the skin, hit a button, then alt-tab to the skin viewer and see the change in just seconds.

I'd like to submit this skin as:
15th BS USAAF

I know it has RAF 226 Squadron Markings, but feel as though it was remembered by the raid in which it took part in, flown by an awarded US Pilot, who unfortunately died at the end of the war, in a flying accident instead of this famous July 4 raid.  Besides, if someone questions it, it will only spark curiousity and thus hopefully lead to some education.
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on January 31, 2008, 04:40:16 AM
Well, the skin has been submitted.
Thanks for the help all.

<---crosses fingers
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 02, 2008, 07:38:58 PM
:cry
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Wraith on March 02, 2008, 08:55:10 PM
I see a big problem.

There's no pilot!
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Krusty on March 03, 2008, 09:21:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kermit de frog
:cry


So, does that mean it was rejected??
Title: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 03, 2008, 01:37:09 PM
I didn't get any info from HTC if they looked at it or not.  No rejection notice was given to me.

Maybe they'll look at it later and determine if it gets into the game for the next batch of skins.

<----crosses fingers
:)
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 12, 2008, 03:32:09 AM
 :pray
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Krusty on March 12, 2008, 10:05:10 AM
I would just ask 'em if they got it. If they do, don't even fret about it. It's common to miss a skin pack release because they haven't got to your skin yet for review.
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: botkins on March 15, 2008, 03:51:45 PM
whats that skin modeled after the lancaster
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Krusty on March 15, 2008, 07:56:31 PM
It's a Boston III. These are colors that it wore into combat.

You'll find that many similar colors were used on many different aircraft in WW2.
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Easyscor on March 15, 2008, 11:16:14 PM
I wonder if you'd be interested in doing another one as a Vichy French DB-7. Apparently they were un-numbered and didn't even carry squad designations, sporting only the French roundals and rudder colors on their standard camo paint from the discriptions I've read. Hopefully if you're interested, someone here could provide better references and some photos that can pass htc's requirements. I have two artist's renderings, which may have been done from the same descriptions I've read as well. I can send those but I have no photos. Worst case, if you do the skin, it ends up as the default in an upcoming SEA terrain.

Edit:

Er, never mind, Greebo already has a very nice one in-game.

 :o
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: Kermit de frog on August 08, 2008, 02:17:40 AM
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/AH%20Skins/190a3v1.jpg)

I found this old pic of a 190 I did nearly 2 years ago.  I'll start up this project after Rangoon.

I'll try to submit the boston skin again.
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: lyric1 on August 08, 2008, 02:26:09 AM
Well, the skin has been submitted.
Thanks for the help all.
<S>
<---crosses fingers
I bet it will be on top.
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: rogerdee on August 08, 2008, 06:27:14 AM
re submit the skin if you can.Skuzzy is pretty good but some times even he has stuff lost in
the mail. :eek:
Title: Re: Boston III Skin (First skin)
Post by: lyric1 on August 08, 2008, 07:00:40 AM
I wonder if you'd be interested in doing another one as a Vichy French DB-7. Apparently they were un-numbered and didn't even carry squad designations, sporting only the French roundals and rudder colors on their standard camo paint from the discriptions I've read. Hopefully if you're interested, someone here could provide better references and some photos that can pass htc's requirements. I have two artist's renderings, which may have been done from the same descriptions I've read as well. I can send those but I have no photos. Worst case, if you do the skin, it ends up as the default in an upcoming SEA terrain.

Edit:

Er, never mind, Greebo already has a very nice one in-game.

 :o
Only thing I have for what it is worth? (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5008/usnatsvichybostonvb2.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usnatsvichybostonvb2.jpg)