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Title: B-25's...
Post by: trigger2 on January 14, 2008, 07:16:15 PM
I was recently reading a book called "Flyboys" which is about some WWII TBM pilots who went MIA in WWII after an attack on chichi jima (Hope I spelt that right) when it popped up on the "Doolittle raid" where they had b25's up from a carrier

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The Doolittle Raid, 18 April 1942 was the first air raid by the United States to strike the Japanese home island of Honshû during World War II. The mission was notable since it was the first time in U.S. military history that United States Army Air Forces bombers were launched from a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier on a combat mission. The Doolittle Raid demonstrated that the Japanese home islands were vulnerable to Allied air attack, and it provided an expedient means for U.S. retaliation for Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941.


(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/alecksismeboo/300px-Army_B-25_28Doolittle_Raid29.jpg)

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The raid had its roots in a chance observation that it was possible to launch Army twin-engined bombers from an aircraft carrier, making feasible an early air attack on Japan. Appraised of the idea in January 1942, U.S. Fleet commander Admiral Ernest J. King and Air Forces leader General Henry H. Arnold greeted it with enthusiasm. Arnold assigned the technically-astute Doolittle to organize and lead a suitable air group. The modern, but relatively well-tested B-25 medium bomber was selected as the delivery vehicle and tests showed that it could fly off a carrier with a useful bomb load and enough fuel to hit Japan and continue on to airfields in China.


Why not allow people willing to up b25's from a carrier to do so, full flaps and full throttle should allow the b25 to get up :]
Title: B-25's...
Post by: Meatwad on January 14, 2008, 07:19:02 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=345703&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending)
Title: B-25's...
Post by: Treize69 on January 14, 2008, 07:21:40 PM
Newest Wishlist request- make it mandatory to search for similar topics before allowing a post to go through.
Title: B-25's...
Post by: trigger2 on January 14, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
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Originally posted by Treize69
Newest Wishlist request- make it mandatory to search for similar topics before allowing a post to go through.


No worries mate, I did search it under

"Doolittle raid"
"Bomber Carrier"
"Carrier" (too many results...)
"b25 carrier" (b25 under 4 letter minimum, along with b-25)
Title: B-25's...
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 14, 2008, 07:49:37 PM
The B-25s that were used for the Doolittle raid were modified to allow them to take off of a carrier.

Removal of the lower gun turret
Installation of de-icers and anti-icers
Steel blast plates mounted on the fuselage around the upper turret
Removal of the liaison radio set
Installation of three additional fuel tanks and support mounts in the bomb bay, crawl way and lower turret area to increase fuel capacity from 646 to 1,141 U.S. gallons (2,445 to 4,319 litres)
Mock gun barrels installed in the tail cone, and
Replacement of their Norden bombsight with a makeshift aiming sight.


This was a one time only deal and shouldn't be used to put a plane in a particular roll (in this case a CV capable medium bomber) that it wasn't used in with the exception of an once in a life time mission.


ack-ack
Title: B-25's...
Post by: Spikes on January 14, 2008, 07:55:50 PM
I just got done reading that book as well. :)
Title: B-25's...
Post by: DoNKeY on January 14, 2008, 08:09:11 PM
Hehe noobs, finished it like 5 months ago.:aok

donkey
Title: B-25's...
Post by: trigger2 on January 14, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The B-25s that were used for the Doolittle raid were modified to allow them to take off of a carrier.

Removal of the lower gun turret
Installation of de-icers and anti-icers
Steel blast plates mounted on the fuselage around the upper turret
Removal of the liaison radio set
Installation of three additional fuel tanks and support mounts in the bomb bay, crawl way and lower turret area to increase fuel capacity from 646 to 1,141 U.S. gallons (2,445 to 4,319 litres)
Mock gun barrels installed in the tail cone, and
Replacement of their Norden bombsight with a makeshift aiming sight.


This was a one time only deal and shouldn't be used to put a plane in a particular roll (in this case a CV capable medium bomber) that it wasn't used in with the exception of an once in a life time mission.


ack-ack


Might be wrong but from what I've read and done a touch of research on it was a b25B using just enough fuel to get them to chinese airspace...

But if it is true, wouldn't the steel blast plates, the 3 additional fuel tanks, support mounts for the bombs and the anti icers and deicers  make up for the lost weight of the guns?
Title: B-25's...
Post by: AWwrgwy on January 15, 2008, 09:46:52 AM
You can take any B-25 off a carrier that you land there first.

Enjoy and have fun.


wrngway