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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Curval on January 16, 2008, 05:59:08 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080116/ap_on_re_us/craig_appeal
People who have sex in public have an expectation of privacy?
That is an oxymoron.
Besides, I'm no expert at all, but I *believe* that these people who have sex in public washrooms get a thrill out of doing their deeds in a public place....because it is public.
Honestly...don't these people (ACLU) have better things to do?
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Originally posted by Curval
don't these people (ACLU) have better things to do?
NO:noid
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FTA... "It cited a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling 38 years ago that found that people who have sex in closed stalls in public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of privacy.""
I guess it's the ACLU's fault that the Minnesota Supreme Court made the ruling.
I think Craig is a hypocrite, but the police really should have better things to worry about than old guys cruising for sex in airport bathrooms.
I know one thing for certain. Tapping your feet and swiping your hands under dividers isn't sex.
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I guess you would have to define "reasonable".
to me, what is a reasonable amount of privacy on private property would be far different from what is reasonable in a public bathroom.
It is not complex.
and curval... watch it or sandy will nullify your lefty party card.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
to me, what is a reasonable amount of privacy on private property would be far different from what is reasonable in a public bathroom.
So, if you take crap in public bathroom it is reasonable to expect cops watching over every step of yours?
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Originally posted by Sandman
I think Craig is a hypocrite, but the police really should have better things to worry about than old guys cruising for sex in airport bathrooms.
You don't think that the sting operation was driven by complaints from the public?
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
You don't think that the sting operation was driven by complaints from the public?
The public complained about toe tapping?
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Originally posted by Sandman
The public complained about toe tapping?
No, Einstein. The public complained about guys humping each other in the restroom. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
No, Einstein. The public complained about guys humping each other in the restroom. :rolleyes:
...but they didn't arrest Craig for that. They arrested him for toe tapping.
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Originally posted by Sandman
The public complained about toe tapping?
I can see the guy running up to a cop in the airport...
Officer, officer... I was trying to drop the Browns off at the super bowl and it was one of those that you had to concentrate on cause I been eating peanuts all last night you know... anyway, the guy next to me was doing alot of toe tappin and keep reaching his hand under the divider to my stall, on top of that he was humming show-tunes. Would you mind going in there and doing something about it???
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Originally posted by Sandman
...but they didn't arrest Craig for that. They arrested him for toe tapping.
My comment was about the reason for the sting operation, not the way it was executed.
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
My comment was about the reason for the sting operation, not the way it was executed.
Well... if public complaints can override their own Supreme Court, they have a bigger problem.
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Well if someone runs up to a cop complaining that two men/women are having sex in a public stall then by all means arrest them.
BUT
However distastefull I or anyone else might find it. I do not see how it is the police's or anyone elses business what two consenting adults communicate what they want to do with one another.
reguardless of what method or code is used to communicate those wishes.
Since when is it a crime to talk about having sex?
If they had actually caught him in the act of having sex in a public place I'd say fine. Lock him up
But setting people up and arresting them for planning on having sex??
Shame on the cops on this one.
They should be out going after real ciminals and not this silly crap.
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2bighorn.. it is far more "reasonable" to expect that a cop... or anyone.. may look into a stall in a public bathroom than it is to expect that they break into your house at home and peer into your bathroom. crap or no.
lazs
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cops wife:: "hi honey, how was your day?"
cop:: "boring, i sat in a toilet stall all day waiting to be propositioned."
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my ridico-meter reads an 8.7
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The ACLU is just playing the game the prosecuters played when charging him. Apparently they changed charges from solicitation as a reasonable amount of privacy was expected in a bathroom stall.
Seems to be a waste of time to me and a farce. If the guy wants to blowpop or play catch in a bathroom stall with a stranger, than by all means let him. Cripes his choices will catch up to him sooner or later.
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for a very memorable year and-a-half of my life, I was in charge of a police unit that had to address complaints in public parks and other areas regarding male homosexual sex in public bathrooms, parks and wooded areas pursuant to various complainants.
Although we were very successful in arrests and prosecution, the problem still exists today... it is never-ending... an assault on all law abiding people (and their minor children who may have to use a restroom that you may mistakenly believe is being used strictly for non-sexual functions.... think about it).
Since when does a sick sliver of our culture dictate to the larger group?
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Bingo. I also could find reasonable doubt about the toe tapping thing. Yea, the guy most likely was a home looking for a good time, but I sure wouldn’t want to go to jail for what other’s may think was something that was “most likely”.
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In my 42 years, I have yet to ever see or suspect homos of going at it in a men’s restroom, although I’ve read that it’s very common.
How many of you have actually walked in on such a thing?