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Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: DEAR98 on January 16, 2008, 10:23:50 PM
well its Luft46.com tell me what you think about it
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: mensa180 on January 16, 2008, 10:39:35 PM
Now we're talkin. (http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp196.html)

It's even got a bombay!  :)

The twinbooms never end! (http://www.luft46.com/arado/are500.html)
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Vulcan on January 16, 2008, 10:42:31 PM
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Originally posted by mensa180
Now we're talkin. (http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp196.html)


Wow looks remarkably similar to a DeHavilland jet (vampire/venom/etc).
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Vulcan on January 16, 2008, 10:46:25 PM
Oh yeah baby....

(http://www.luft46.com/fw/3bfta283.jpg)
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: mensa180 on January 16, 2008, 10:51:09 PM
(http://www.luft46.com/misc/3bsanger.jpg)

Talk about slick!
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: beau32 on January 16, 2008, 11:08:19 PM
All these Aircraft on the site are prototypes or ones that never made it past the drawing board. If you read through them all, you will see that the germans came up with thrust vectoring on one of the aircraft (sorry, cant remember which one off the top of my head). But its in there somewhere.
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 17, 2008, 11:32:20 AM
Those are nice drawings.  But in reality, the Germans couldn't even build a long range bomber (well, one that wouldn't spontaneously combust) or a fighter that could escort He111s and Ju88s to England.
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Wmaker on January 17, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Those are nice drawings.  But in reality, the Germans couldn't even build a long range bomber (well, one that wouldn't spontaneously combust) or a fighter that could escort He111s and Ju88s to England.


And F/A-18 can't manage mach one at 10000ft? :D :rofl
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Denholm on January 17, 2008, 01:42:03 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
...But in reality, the Germans couldn't even build a long range bomber (well, one that wouldn't spontaneously combust)...

Think of it as helping the environment. They're biodegradable.:D
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Emu on January 17, 2008, 02:05:51 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Those are nice drawings.  But in reality, the Germans couldn't even build a long range bomber (well, one that wouldn't spontaneously combust) or a fighter that could escort He111s and Ju88s to England.


Yes, but that is thanks to the allies being very effective at destroying and bombing the nazi war machine to the ground and preventing such things from happening, in addition to more and more of the skilled factory workers being called to frontline duty and being replaced by slaves which werent exactly as motivated.  Finally, with Hitler walking around having final say on what a prototype should or shouldnt do, a lot of very promising projects ended up being delayed unnecessarily.  The Me262 is a great example of that.  Also, dont forget, the US NASA was helped off the ground by a certain captured individual...
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: dhaus on January 17, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
Indeed, it was Hitler's forward looking demands which prevented any work on heavy bombers and long range fiters.
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: splitatom on January 17, 2008, 06:38:19 PM
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Originally posted by mensa180
(http://www.luft46.com/misc/3bsanger.jpg)

Talk about slick!

nice plans of space bomber
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 17, 2008, 09:44:33 PM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
And F/A-18 can't manage mach one at 10000ft? :D :rofl


An F/A-18 cant do mach 1 under 10,000 ft.  Lets put $10 on it right now.
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Wmaker on January 17, 2008, 10:59:08 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
An F/A-18 cant do mach 1 under 10,000 ft.  Lets put $10 on it right now.


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Originally posted by Wmaker
Speed of sound is dependent of the current air pressure but is normally around 340m/s. Several sources list F/A-18's top speed at ground level as 361m/s.


...As the altitude increases the speed of sound gets lower and the Hornet gets faster. So you're on. :) I just want to specify that I'm talking about the C model...not that it changes anything.
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Furball on January 18, 2008, 06:45:05 AM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
I just want to specify that I'm talking about the C model...not that it changes anything.


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   -- At 5,000 feet at maximum thrust, the F/A-18C accelerates from
     0.8 Mach to 1.08 Mach\7 in 21 seconds, whereas the F/A-18E will
     take 52.8 seconds.

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\7 At sea level, the maximum speed of the F/A-18 is limited and
cannot reach 1.2 Mach.



http://www.fas.org/man/gao/ns96098.htm

Sorry!!
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Wmaker on January 18, 2008, 06:59:52 AM
Sorry about what? :)
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Wmaker on January 18, 2008, 01:12:52 PM
Sorry DEAR98 for this unintentional thread hijack. But I just wanted to add that it won't get much closer to primary source material in this matter than US Navy's own data from the performance testing they have done...which Furball kindly posted above. :) Not that it was any real news to begin with.

At 5,000 feet at maximum thrust, the F/A-18C accelerates from  0.8 Mach to 1.08 Mach in 21 seconds

So AquaShrimp, would you like to pay via paypal or...? :)
Title: Weirdo German prototype website
Post by: Furball on January 18, 2008, 02:20:06 PM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Sorry about what? :)


Sorry to poor Aqua :D