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Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Yarbles on January 17, 2008, 07:57:47 AM
Who can tell me what AH was like when it first started and what planes/gv's there were/ werent
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Getback on January 17, 2008, 08:01:42 AM
Can't remember too much and I wasn't here at the very beginning. For one it cost 30 bucks. I know that. Another was that there were no Tigers. People would have 10,000 gv perks and no where to spend them.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 17, 2008, 08:14:32 AM
In no particular order:

Night time came around every couple of hours and lasted 20 minutes. Milkrunners took advantage of night to launch buffs while others tweaked gamma to shoot em down.

There were no SpitVIII, Spit IV or Spit XVI, or La7, F4U1-A, Ki-84, 109-K4,
B-25, B-24J, P-38G, P-47N or Sherman M-4.

50 cals were much more concentrated and deadly.

Towns had about 1/3rd less bldgs.

Rants on ch 200 were few and far between.

Skyrock and Vanscrew didn't own anything other than a pair of socks.

Hitech used to fly, and chat a lot in BLUE.

Maps changed every Wednesday morning and Skuzzy answered thousands of silly questions.

Base acks fired higher but less deadly salvos.

Rooks all cherry picked from 35K...oh wait...that hasn't changed :aok
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Squire on January 17, 2008, 08:20:19 AM
You had to walk from the hanger to your ride, in 4 feet of snow. It was hell.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Latrobe on January 17, 2008, 08:26:13 AM
You had no Spit IV, VII, or XVI??!! That musta been devastating!! ;)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Scca on January 17, 2008, 08:29:22 AM
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Originally posted by Squire
You had to walk from the hanger to your ride, in 4 feet of snow. It was hell.
Up hill with no shoes :)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: moot on January 17, 2008, 08:32:38 AM
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Originally posted by Max
50 cals were much more concentrated and deadly.

Yep... I could kill bombers from 1.1 out with F6Fs, nevermind P47s, routinely.  The 50cal (the hit bubble rather) and hit sprites gave you much more precise feedback than today's.

Quote
Hitech used to fly, and chat a lot in BLUE.

Maps changed every Wednesday morning and Skuzzy answered thousands of silly questions.

And that was really cool.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 17, 2008, 08:37:52 AM
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Originally posted by Scca
Up hill with no shoes :)


and we had to write up our AAR's on the back of a shovel :D
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Waffle on January 17, 2008, 08:51:12 AM
best was is to go to the news and announcements forum, show all threads dating back to the beginning, then jump to the last page of post. :)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Joker on January 17, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
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Originally posted by Scca
Up hill with no shoes :)


...both ways...

Joker
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Ghastly on January 17, 2008, 09:07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Joker
...both ways...

Joker


... 5 miles each way, and work a 14 hour day in between ...
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Yeager on January 17, 2008, 09:15:56 AM
I remember 90 players online being a huge turnout.  Community was small and most everyone got along well with the exception of the luftwhiners who were alwasy stomping off threatening to quit en mass.  FMs were very strange for that first year until someone came along with some hard rocket type data and HTC made some corrections.......I could go on I guess, but thats enough for me.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: MajIssue on January 17, 2008, 10:06:51 AM
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Originally posted by Scca
Up hill with no shoes :)

Up Hill Both directions... I know thats what you meant...
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: hubsonfire on January 17, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
It was a virtual paradise until all of you doofuses showed up and ruined it. That's what it was like.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: MajIssue on January 17, 2008, 10:28:30 AM
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Originally posted by Waffle
best was is to go to the news and announcements forum, show all threads dating back to the beginning, then jump to the last page of post. :)


I followed you suggestion... found an old post from before the beta version of AH was released. I added a posting to a 8 1/2 year old thread, It was a hOOt, titled "When will we see it Pyro". I couldn't resist the standard answer of... 1,209,600 seconds. Funny how the more thing change, the more they stay the same.:lol
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: jaxxo on January 17, 2008, 10:37:25 AM
was very nice...the annoying "i pwn you" 200 types were few and far between...cough sharky cough...unfort that persona is addicting to newbs who see their new hero and wanna be just like him...perpetuating into score whoring ganger types...

Sky was a numbers dweeb who was very polite and a good fight without all the whining

I was da cvkilla/ base kapture queen extrordinaire...


less people more fun
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: DaYooper on January 17, 2008, 02:31:03 PM
Rocks and trees could be invisible and kill gv's.

The graphics were no where near as close to what they are now.

There was a giant squid that inhabited a lake on one of the maps.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: 68Ripper on January 17, 2008, 02:39:42 PM
If you ran over a piece of wood from a destroyed bldg in your tank it would kill you.

oh and there were lot's more Sheep, sheep that you could actually kill.

besides the squid there were the occasional flying saucers.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: BaldEagl on January 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
I was still in AWIII during beta but in AWI:

Vehicle hangers were impenetrable camo nets draped over 4 poles.

Running into rocks killed GV's.

The Spit IX was the current XVI but without clipped wings.

There were some desert terrains.

Storm fronts moved across the arenas.

Flying in clouds it was just matte grey and you could see con's as plain as if you were in clear sky, but you couldn't see the planes in the clouds if you were'nt in them yourself.

We had Pizza.

It was more fun.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: BlueJ1 on January 17, 2008, 02:56:43 PM
VH's where easier to take down, and camp.

Tank battles were huge on some maps such as Pizza along the outsides of the map.

Bombing was harder. Wind and harder calibration.

Maps were huge.


Anyone remember Kadesh? Had so much fun the that scenario.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Spazer on January 17, 2008, 03:41:30 PM
How about the pizza and beer bottles hanging over the volcano way in the north west of the Island map...:rofl
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: kilz on January 17, 2008, 04:03:08 PM
we had pizza map

you could drive into the town buildings

bombing took more skill

dog fights where more fun due to the lack of hoing back then.

people actualy saluted others after a good fight. and not farking cherry picking dweeb, ho dweeb spit dweeb la7 tard so on and so on.

the gv fights where out of this world. we had better maps then and alot more gv fights would break out and it was a blast.

many many clasic fights with AApache stgr Ironic littleal bigal the list goes on and on.

i am glad to see that we have some of the old big maps back it has brought back some of the fun and i hope to see more big maps come back to life hint hint TRINITY LOL
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 17, 2008, 04:24:43 PM
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Originally posted by kilz

bombing took more skill



Au contrair, mon frere. AH1 was just like AirWarrior. IIRC there was no calibration or wind factor. You could climb to 30K and hit a flea sitting on a fighter hangar.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: hubsonfire on January 17, 2008, 04:43:26 PM
No formations, laser guided munitions. You could kill fighters at ranges beyond 1K, but everyone was too busy furballing and having fun to attack your buffs anyway. I'm not kidding, it was great before all you toolshedders showed up.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Sketch on January 17, 2008, 04:48:09 PM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I was still in AWIII during beta but in AWI:


So how many credit cards did you go through?  And did it make you go bankrupt?  :D
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: BiPoLaR on January 17, 2008, 04:50:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Max
In no particular order:

Night time came around every couple of hours and lasted 20 minutes. Milkrunners took advantage of night to launch buffs while others tweaked gamma to shoot em down.

There were no SpitVIII, Spit IV or Spit XVI, or La7, F4U1-A, Ki-84, 109-K4,
B-25, B-24J, P-38G, P-47N or Sherman M-4.

50 cals were much more concentrated and deadly.

Towns had about 1/3rd less bldgs.

Rants on ch 200 were few and far between.

Skyrock and Vanscrew didn't own anything other than a pair of socks.

Hitech used to fly, and chat a lot in BLUE.

Maps changed every Wednesday morning and Skuzzy answered thousands of silly questions.

Base acks fired higher but less deadly salvos.

Rooks all cherry picked from 35K...oh wait...that hasn't changed :aok


what hes trying to say is, AH was a lot better back then
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: GooseAW on January 17, 2008, 05:29:18 PM
Those were the days!!! when I could land double digit kills in my FM2 without rearming...:cry
Title: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: RedTop on January 17, 2008, 05:40:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Yarbles
Who can tell me what AH was like when it first started and what planes/gv's there were/ werent


Paradise online for flight simmers!!!!!

To capture a base....kill the ack and drop troops on the field...if they made it to the map room you got it in tact. No towns....just bomb the base. IF ya had to...you could flatten a field with 1 lanc. 2k on an FH 2 k on a BH and 2 k on the VH. Fields had 2 FH's and 1 BH small field wise.

Medium fields were the biggest if I remember right.

Take a B17 with 100 punders and De-Ack from 6k....bombing was easier.

No LaLa's....FIghts were fun and very rarley did you get Ho'ed. Furballs were the norm and base captures happened but were'nt like now.

The Chog wasn't perked.

100 people was a big nite....Clouds the you flew into and out of that went from one side of the mapo to the other in a front type deal as was mentioned.

Smaller squads.....Big fights....'s from almost everyone....and very litlle fighting over anything.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Vulcan on January 17, 2008, 05:48:55 PM
The tiffies rollrate was double what is now :)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: SuBWaYCH on January 17, 2008, 07:54:05 PM
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Originally posted by GooseAW
Those were the days!!! when I could land double digit kills in my FM2 without rearming...:cry


Goose! Get your arse back to 164!!! :D
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 17, 2008, 08:04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Max


There were no SpitVIII, Spit IV or Spit XVI, or La7, F4U1-A, Ki-84, 109-K4,
B-25, B-24J, P-38G, P-47N or Sherman M-4.



The P-38J was introduced the same time as the G, prior to that all we had was the L model.  Forgot which tour we got the L in, but it was just after AH went live, glass tail and all.  Spitfire IV?  Didn't know we ever had that model, nor have I ever personally heard of an IV model but think you meant the XIV.  Seem to recall the La7 being available at the start.


ack-ack
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 17, 2008, 08:38:48 PM
Meant to say Spit14
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Urchin on January 17, 2008, 09:24:06 PM
For the first couple years anyway... you could actually find a decent fight.  

Been lacking the past 5 or so though.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Meatwad on January 17, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
Towns had an ammo bunker and a barracks in them. Very VERY small towns, just a handful of buildings and 3 acks

VH didnt looks like a vh, just a mesh screen flat rectangle building.

Graphics were a lot easier on systems

Fun flight bugs (you could take a C-47 with 25% fuel from the high alt base on the uterus map and climb way over 70,000 feet.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: moot on January 17, 2008, 10:31:16 PM
The Ta152 kicked ass.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: MOSQ on January 17, 2008, 10:55:52 PM
Ostwinds were more deadly in a GV battle than Panzers, because Osty's had a mix of HE and AP ammo.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: moot on January 17, 2008, 10:57:35 PM
That's right.. Coming 90 degree down onto a panzer and giving it a burst of 50cal from e.g. a P47 would kill it.  110G2s would do it too, and so would a 262.  I can't remember if 20mm could do it as well.  I think they could.
Yep.. I'm pretty sure I remember taking a C-hog to the outskirts of the AKPizza map with lots of fuel and rockets, and popping GVs left and right with short bursts of top-down 20mm.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Meatwad on January 17, 2008, 11:01:56 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/AHmeatwad/Goon_70000.jpg)


Heres a picture of my Goon when it just hit 70,000 feet. This was online in the MA too back in AH1 on the Uterus map
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Larry on January 17, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MOSQ
Ostwinds were more deadly in a GV battle than Panzers, because Osty's had a mix of HE and AP ammo.



no recoil
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: TheDudeDVant on January 18, 2008, 12:09:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Seem to recall the La7 being available at the start.


ack-ack


The La7 was added at the same time as the Tempest
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2008, 12:10:58 AM
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Originally posted by moot
That's right.. Coming 90 degree down onto a panzer and giving it a burst of 50cal from e.g. a P47 would kill it.  110G2s would do it too, and so would a 262.  I can't remember if 20mm could do it as well.  I think they could.
Yep.. I'm pretty sure I remember taking a C-hog to the outskirts of the AKPizza map with lots of fuel and rockets, and popping GVs left and right with short bursts of top-down 20mm.


Yep, 20mm cannons would do it too.  Used to do the same in the P-38L on the same map.


ack-ack
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: BaldEagl on January 18, 2008, 12:26:38 AM
If you walked into the door of the maproom, you went down a set of stairs and there was actually a map on a table in the middle of the room.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Guppy35 on January 18, 2008, 01:03:38 AM
I sure seem to remember going out from the tower to the plane and then the canopy closing on the runway too.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Redd on January 18, 2008, 06:13:59 AM
HT's first sim .... these were the good old days , when the net was just starting ...awesome fun.



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/596_1200658323_rogers-1.gif)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: ColKLink on January 18, 2008, 06:45:01 AM
the sheep didn't  sport a "HT" brand on em...............110 still ho's the same though :)........ I liked the nighttime , gave a newb someplace to hide,....for a few mins.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: ColKLink on January 18, 2008, 06:45:57 AM
I still haven't gotten over the branding of the sheep................:cry
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Ghosth on January 18, 2008, 07:05:51 AM
P51, 109, Spitfire, La5,  these were the big 4 that you saw most often.

If you saw a pair of la5's you ducked cause it was probably AKCurly and AKNimitz and they'd rock your world.

B17 was the only bomber, and the first months it didn't even have a bombsight.

No GV's, they came out in 1.02 (stayed up all night shooting down planes with a panzers main gun, WOOT!)

Community was small, tight, self policing, everyone knew everyone.
There was some smack talking on channel 1, but mostly not. There was probably 250 people that flew regularly, with 80 - 125 on at any given time.

Most of us were still recovering from paying 2$ an hour at WB or AW.
Hitech's 30 $ a month flat fee, fly as much as you want was Paradise with 17 houri's massaging our feet and ego's.  We were in heaven and we knew it.
And life was GOOD.

Now, we have smack talk wars, supercomputers, ego's littering the landscape from north to south, LOTS of planes to choose from, 15$ a month flat rate pricing. And you know what, life is STILL good.

Its STILL heaven, if we choose to make it so.

Its our Attitude that makes it good or bad.
It can be heaven, or it can be hell, its your choice.  
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Corrs on January 18, 2008, 07:36:39 AM
smaller maps
no early, mid, or late war. Just MA, TA, DA and SE.
VB's only had 1 VH
Mazz's alcohol supply wasn't running low
The flying circus had a CO that actualy flew more than once a year :rolleyes:
And someone rolled a mission of near 20 goons and dropped all troops on 1 base causeing the game to go poof :O
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Castedo on January 18, 2008, 07:50:16 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moot
The Ta152 kicked ass.


It was perked.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Castedo on January 18, 2008, 07:51:35 AM
Tiger and JU87 were intruduced at the same time.  Lots of whining about the siren (lack of it) when it first apeared
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Castedo on January 18, 2008, 07:52:15 AM
never mind the spelling
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 18, 2008, 08:25:13 AM
Originally posted by Max
In no particular order:

Night time came around every couple of hours and lasted 20 minutes. Milkrunners took advantage of night to launch buffs while others tweaked gamma to shoot em down.

There were no SpitVIII, Spit IV or Spit XVI, or La7, F4U1-A, Ki-84, 109-K4,
B-25, B-24J, P-38G, P-47N or Sherman M-4.

50 cals were much more concentrated and deadly.

Towns had about 1/3rd less bldgs.

Rants on ch 200 were few and far between.

Skyrock and Vanscrew didn't own anything other than a pair of socks.

Hitech used to fly, and chat a lot in BLUE.

Maps changed every Wednesday morning and Skuzzy answered thousands of silly questions.

Base acks fired higher but less deadly salvos.

Rooks all cherry picked from 35K...oh wait...that hasn't changed  

Quote
Originally posted by BiPoLaR
what hes trying to say is, AH was a lot better back then



I've been considering BiPolar's quip and whether or not to respond to it.

If given a chance to opt for AHI the way it was back THEN, vs AHII, the way it is NOW, I'd probably choose AHI. Why? Again, in no particular order,

Graphics were less complex...easier on my computer...better frame rate.

The solar cycle of night time was pretty cool.

The hard hitting 50 cals meant even a clueless dweeb like me could land a few kills.

The MA was the MA...usually 100 - 300 folks flying weekdays & weeknights. Naturally the population increased on weekend evenings, but that was fun too. Overall, there was much more of a "community" feel amongst the flying populous.

Granted, HTC began to grow the customer base and HAD to keep the game current with technology and (alas) add in the extra candy. The result was AHII.

More word of mouth, add the Military Channel commercial and BOOM...the dynamic of AHI was a thing of the past. Enter the UBER-SPITS and La7.

I dunno...compare Aces High to a baseball game and AHI was the small town baseball field where everyone knew each other and played by the rules. AHII is more atune to Yankee Stadium (playing the Red Sox ;) )

Nope, you can't go back and relive the "good old days" but they sure were fun.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
"The Good Old Days" died the day HiTech came up with that really stupid contest a couple of years back.  


ack-ack
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Yeager on January 18, 2008, 01:23:18 PM
which contest?
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: moot on January 18, 2008, 01:33:07 PM
The score contest.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: hubsonfire on January 18, 2008, 01:43:45 PM
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71485&highlight=contest

When rank became the only thing publicly recognized by HTC on a regular basis. The beginning of the end, as it were.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Spazzter on January 18, 2008, 02:23:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 68Ripper
If you ran over a piece of wood from a destroyed bldg in your tank it would kill you.

oh and there were lot's more Sheep, sheep that you could actually kill.

besides the squid there were the occasional flying saucers.



I liked the one map with the beer and pizza near one of the HQ's.


Spazz
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Slash27 on January 18, 2008, 02:29:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Max
In no particular order:

Night time came around every couple of hours and lasted 20 minutes. Milkrunners took advantage of night to launch buffs while others tweaked gamma to shoot em down.

There were no SpitVIII, Spit IV or Spit XVI, or La7, F4U1-A, Ki-84, 109-K4,
B-25, B-24J, P-38G, P-47N or Sherman M-4.

50 cals were much more concentrated and deadly.

Towns had about 1/3rd less bldgs.

Rants on ch 200 were few and far between.

Skyrock and Vanscrew didn't own anything other than a pair of socks.

Hitech used to fly, and chat a lot in BLUE.

Maps changed every Wednesday morning and Skuzzy answered thousands of silly questions.

Base acks fired higher but less deadly salvos.

Rooks all cherry picked from 35K...oh wait...that hasn't changed :aok



VHs were mesh camo tents

B-17 carbombs

Being 1 of 2 Rooks on at 2 A.M.

$29.95 subscription fees
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: humble on January 18, 2008, 02:39:25 PM
1) 1st it was free for along time. Anytime somebody whines guys like me remember that these guys didnt charge a dime until the felt they had it "right"...one reason so many guys are loyal.

2) to the best of my recollection Roy (skuzzy) wasnt even there (He was an outside vendor if I recall for a long time before he joined the company.

3) The original playerbase was largely vets from WB or AW. Even though it was free it wasnt "easy" and alot of guys payed there $10 or whatever to play AW vs getting hammered here.

4) The original FM was much more demanding and far less forgiving then the current easymode. As the game went "live" and drew more and more new blood HTC changed the fight model considerably in AH1 1.4 release (going from memory) to roughly the current one...

alot of other stuff more detail oriented....

Personally I wish we had the old flight model back but such is life.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 18, 2008, 02:44:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by humble


 to the best of my recollection Roy (skuzzy) wasnt even there (He was an outside vendor if I recall for a long time before he joined the company.

 


Didn't he park a pizza/beer wagon outside the old Grapevine office?

grins,ducks and runs.....
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: straffo on January 18, 2008, 04:32:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kilz
we had pizza map

you could drive into the town buildings

bombing took more skill

dog fights where more fun due to the lack of hoing back then.

people actualy saluted others after a good fight. and not farking cherry picking dweeb, ho dweeb spit dweeb la7 tard so on and so on.

the gv fights where out of this world. we had better maps then and alot more gv fights would break out and it was a blast.

many many clasic fights with AApache stgr Ironic littleal bigal the list goes on and on.

i am glad to see that we have some of the old big maps back it has brought back some of the fun and i hope to see more big maps come back to life hint hint TRINITY LOL

there was one map (and it was not pizza)
no town
bombing was easy than
hoing  was used exactly as today
people insulted each other exactly like today
there was no GV
who is AApache ?
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: killjoy1 on January 18, 2008, 06:32:50 PM
Big difference in the GOD (tm) Good Ol Days

We seemed to know more people and worked together.  Squads were more active.  

It seems so hard to keep a squad active any more.  Almost everyone craves it and few can find it.  If AH fails, I think it will be because HT decided to not support squad activity.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: humble on January 18, 2008, 06:53:21 PM
While squads seem to come and go thats based on the dynamics in the squad itself. HTC isnt creating any negative impact on the squad aspect. I know the squad I'm in has more then doubled in the 18 months or so since I joined it.
Title: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: sax on January 18, 2008, 07:53:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RedTop

Smaller squads.....Big fights....'s from almost everyone....and very litlle fighting over anything.


Thats all the game was ever about , friends , respect and community .

That feeling died with almost all of the new so called aces .

Oh and Goose couldn't land a FM2 with multiple kills unless
9 B17's hit a mountain in front of him .
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Imoutfishing on January 19, 2008, 02:50:22 AM
My god.  Every post scares me.  

I can tell from each discription exactly when they started to play.  Based on the whines, flight condition's, or changes in the game.

I need a new hobby :)

MGD
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Dutchie on January 19, 2008, 04:57:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
It was a virtual paradise until all of you doofuses showed up and ruined it. That's what it was like.


Well said, so pls all quakers sodd off all :cool:
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: bozon on January 19, 2008, 06:00:39 AM
The Map room used to be in the center of the field and when troops were running, people would spawn a B17, drive to the map room and drop the bombs while running on the ground "car bomb" style.

The fuel on 4 fields could be brought down to 25% by a single lancaster flying at 30k. Following which you'd only see P51s on the entire front, being the only plane who could reach anywhere on 25% and without DT.

Those were the days...
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: GooseAW on January 19, 2008, 03:06:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by sax
Thats all the game was ever about , friends , respect and community .

That feeling died with almost all of the new so called aces .

Oh and Goose couldn't land a FM2 with multiple kills unless
9 B17's hit a mountain in front of him .


HeHe!

I remember one night we kept running into each other in our FM2s. Those were some fun fights! Especially since I won!:D Seems to me that was near the end of AHI. Gawd there were some great fights back then. Remember how people used to ask before they came in and picked you or the opponent you had worked for 5 minutes to gain angles on? siggghhh..
Title: , Oh, the good ole days..
Post by: airbumba on January 19, 2008, 10:13:32 PM
I wrote this back then when we switched to AHII.

It brought back a flood of memories when I searched it out and tried to post it as a thread...it reminded me of how inept I ame at computers, but also reminded me of how much I love aviation and care for all the people that made/ make up this community.


Aces High Tribute:
(just writing thoughts down, hope you get it)


As I walk down the dry aging runway, my feet dragging , swirling up a small dust cloud, I wasn’t sure what brought me back here after all these years. Was I feeling sentimental in my thoughts, of all the people and the times we shared, maybe I was reliving the memories that were forged here, but have rusted over the years? Was I selfishly attempting to traverse time by reaching into the past in a vain attempt to remember a younger, wide eyed version of myself? It really didn’t matter what brought me here, I was here, and the past was slowly making its way to the forefront of my thoughts.

With a slow , somewhat calculated stride, I set off walking down the neglected runways. Grass was growing upwards from the cracks widened by the passing years. Nature it seems, had no time for sentimental journeys, she carried onwards without hesitation. I on the other hand, was becoming overwhelmed by the flushing memories. To a young wide eyed flight officer, how long those runways looked, how large the buildings seemed, and how terrifyingly sleek the planes were. Everything was larger than life, but none more so than the pilots. Oh, the pilots. I still remember it like yesterday, how the aces seemed like gods to the younger ranks. They flew in a different sky than us, they were out of reach, hovering over us , in an untouchable manner. When the aces would reach down from their perch and say, “good fight”, it was the ultimate compliment for a lowly flight officer. This was the instant gratification and acknowledgement of the hours spent flying, trying and dying that propelled us forward and perpetuated our striving to attain a place on the higher ground, closer to the gods.

The cracks on the runway and the rust on the hangars, reminded me that the physical attributes of this hallowed place, didn’t stand the test of time as well as my recollections . Walking past the tower, with it’s broken windows and derelict antennae, I can still here the chatter of dozens of pilots on a huge mission, their voices crackling over the vox. Passing a now empty radar pit, I can still see the multi coloured dots flying together across the screen in a memorial flight to a fallen comrade.

The distant whir of wind slipping through a rusted fence, was easily mistaken for the buzz and laughter emanating from the officers club, by my now overactive imagination. The laughter, oh, the laughter! As a smile emerges from my now windswept face, I chuckle with the thought of the laughter. Laughter that can only come from the dry, terse, sometimes coarse sense of humour that only a member of our brotherhood could understand. We were in a league of our own, and every day spent as part of it, made me feel special.


Heading back to my ride, this final walk past the empty hangars stirred memories of how hard we pilots rode those mechanics! It seems nothing was ever good enough for a flyboy, nor should it have been! The constant yearning for better crafts allowed all that is this place, to have existed. Nearing the end of my visit, I noticed something peculiar. The map room was still in pristine condition. It seemed a fitting monument to all the planning that went on in there, a memorial to all those hard working people who planned our large scenarios and special operations.

The time has come for me to return home, to my new home. I still remember that sunny day in June , 2004, when the last truck convoys rolled, and the final plane was being ferried out, how we all looked into the future with a nervous, uncertain gaze. How we arrived at our new base and all the years of new faces and new memories that we made there,…well that’s a story for another time.

As I flyout, looking back at the sun setting over my old home, I will never forget the names and faces that I met there, most of them I will meet again, but for the ones I never will, may you forever fly in the clear blue skies of our memories.

.. old friend.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: MotleyCH on January 19, 2008, 10:59:02 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71485&highlight=contest

When rank became the only thing publicly recognized by HTC on a regular basis. The beginning of the end, as it were.


Is that still in effect?

Not that I have a chance of winning..
Title: Re: , Oh, the good ole days..
Post by: Meatwad on January 20, 2008, 12:10:07 AM
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Originally posted by airbumba
I wrote this back then when we switched to AHII.


.. old friend.


I miss AH1 :cry :cry :cry :cry
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: trigger2 on January 20, 2008, 12:28:14 AM
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Originally posted by Scca
Up hill with no shoes :)


Did we at least have socks to get soaked with water that froze into ice?!?! :eek:
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Meatwad on January 20, 2008, 12:31:25 AM
Nope we had to go barefoot.

If our foot got frozen in the ice, we just cut it off with a dull rusty knife and kept on going
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: trigger2 on January 20, 2008, 12:35:09 AM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Nope we had to go barefoot.

If our foot got frozen in the ice, we just cut it off with a dull rusty knife and kept on going


Well, at least it's dull and rusty...
If it were clean and sharp, well, then you wouldn't feel it :]

When it's dull and rusy, at least you can feel it through the numbing caused by the cold :]
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Meatwad on January 20, 2008, 12:46:05 AM
Usually by then your foot is so numb you cant feel a thing.

The more older fellers were shorter then us young'uns back then. They already lost both their feet and had to cut off part of their stumps when they got frozed in the ice.


For an interesting note, thats how the feet and yard measurement came along. Didnt have a tape measure back then, just went by the number of feet froze in the ice between objects.

On front of people's houses, there was an average of three feet frozen in the ice along the walkway. The local residents decided that "three feet per yard" was a good way to measure long distances, so that stuck.


Naturally with the industrial revolution, measurements changed and became standard over time, but thats how feet and yard measurements came about
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: sax on January 20, 2008, 11:27:15 AM
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Originally posted by GooseAW
HeHe!

I remember one night we kept running into each other in our FM2s. Those were some fun fights! Especially since I won!:


And you used to have long term memory before your accident .
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Masherbrum on January 20, 2008, 01:57:01 PM
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Originally posted by Corrs
And someone rolled a mission of near 20 goons and dropped all troops on 1 base causeing the game to go poof :O
It was 35 goons and I know NOTHING about who "planned it"!  :noid
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: goober69 on January 21, 2008, 08:52:08 AM
while were on the subject of the Good Old Days.
can anyone tell me what the first flight controlers were like?
did they suck bad or were they pretty good for what they were?
or was it kind of like using an atari stick?
what was your first stick?
im old enough to remeber atari but we never had a computer till 2000.

pac-man and frogger rullzzzz. lol:D
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: KooLBreeZ on January 21, 2008, 09:35:35 AM
Dont think Jesus flew an LA back then!
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: airspro on January 21, 2008, 04:04:53 PM
I remember pulling back to hard and taking off both wings :furious many many times .

Also with no "Combat Trim" was a pain to take off without Auto Takeoff , haha . My bud airsid came just after I did and he "tried" to take off a Chog 4 times before he uped . I also remember him "having to" drive a M16 to a enemy base when the first came out , lmao was almost 25 miles he had to drive .

If you took a Thiffie and opened the throttle wide open when you were sitting still , the plane would flip over also . Can you say Torgue was a major effect .

I like the way the map room was on the airbase , not the way we have it now .
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Martlet on January 21, 2008, 04:19:50 PM
Pizza Map.  Now that brought back memories.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: JB73 on January 21, 2008, 04:29:34 PM
I remember when the 110 was released, and within hours people learned 2 110's could kill and entire town in seconds, and a 3rd could capture the base.

flying NoE landgrabbing officially became a "sport" in AH.







before that laser-bombing in a lone B17 killing each and every strat on a field, no ord, 25% fuel, and what not could kill a fight faster than anything.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: zoozoo on January 21, 2008, 04:34:56 PM
I wasnt born yet

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/HQ2.jpg)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: SlapShot on January 21, 2008, 05:18:28 PM
You weren't born yet ... so you have to take a crap in this thread ?
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Spikes on January 21, 2008, 05:23:35 PM
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Originally posted by zoozoo
I wasnt born yet

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/HQ2.jpg)


Hey Squeaky, that pic sucks and its not funny.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Max on January 21, 2008, 06:02:57 PM
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9733/zzvs4.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zzvs4.jpg)
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: B@tfinkV on January 21, 2008, 06:23:32 PM
the current game is twice as good looking and probably twice as accurate as Aces1.... but us 'people' have really hit the ropes lately.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: RumbleB on January 21, 2008, 06:24:02 PM
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Originally posted by Latrobe
You had no Spit IV, VII, or XVI??!! That musta been devastating!! ;)


spit 4 and 7? where do I FIND THESE!
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: nirvana on January 21, 2008, 06:24:55 PM
When a map reset there was usually 1 massive furball between each of the countries, my computer could handle 100 or so planes it one confined area....and it was better.
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: Spikes on January 21, 2008, 06:32:10 PM
Skuzzy would log on to reset the map every week and get spammed with meaningless questions.

152 was perked
No sherman
One arena
No uncapturable bases
ghi would horde one side for the win. :D
Title: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: Saurdaukar on January 21, 2008, 11:08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Yarbles
Who can tell me what AH was like when it first started and what planes/gv's there were/ werent


1.)  People HO'd once, got berated and didnt do it again.
2.)  The only person who flew an La7 well was Shane.
3.)  No one shot chutes.
4.)  No one would subject themselves to the embarrassment of landing kills in an N1k.
5.)  HiTech would fly.
6.)  Squeakers couldnt afford $29.95 per month.
7.)  No arena caps.
8.)  Servers worked.
9.)  Youd never engage a SpitV for fear that it was Levi.
10.)  You heard "What is wrong with the 38?" at least once per night from AW refugees.

T'was a good time.  :cool:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: GooseAW on January 22, 2008, 08:49:12 AM
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Originally posted by sax
And you used to have long term memory before your accident .


Neat little feature these player vs player stats. You had my old tired arse concerned about my memory. So I looked.........

Since I started AH as GooseAW then as GooseCH vs sax:

FM2 vs FM2 I killed you 6 times, you killed me twice. :p

My memory is slippin! I thought we'd fought more than that. But there were some very memorable fights.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: sax on January 22, 2008, 09:18:36 AM
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Originally posted by GooseAW
Neat little feature these player vs player stats. You had my old tired arse concerned about my memory. So I looked.........

Since I started AH as GooseAW then as GooseCH vs sax:

FM2 vs FM2 I killed you 6 times, you killed me twice. :p

My memory is slippin! I thought we'd fought more than that. But there were some very memorable fights.


In the words of all famous duellers I claim inibriation .

Wanna go to the DA punk .
Title: The Good Old Days
Post by: GooseAW on January 22, 2008, 09:36:09 AM
HeHeHe! Meet you in there in 10...er.....20.....er....tomm orrow....maybe.
Title: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: Shane on January 23, 2008, 09:40:17 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
2.)  The only person who flew an La7 well was Shane.  :cool:


Actually, several flew it "well" in that they were very successful hit and run artists.  I think I was just one of the first who realized its overall potential incorporating TnB tactics...  which I honed prior in the P-51's, but it was the spit9 that led up initially.

No matter what I flew, I pretty much flew in the same aggressive way - the same moves just transferred and adapted to whatever my ride was.  This is probably why I never did particularly well with the FW series.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: heythere on January 24, 2008, 09:01:12 AM
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Originally posted by Shane
 This is probably why I never did particularly well with the FW series.
how do you mean?  were you not able to successfully turn in an FW?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: Saurdaukar on January 24, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
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Originally posted by heythere
how do you mean?  were you not able to successfully turn in an FW?


Never tried the A5 with the 2 gun package, apparently.  ;)

(predicts increased usage of A5 over next 48 hours)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Good Old Days
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2008, 12:38:52 PM
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Originally posted by heythere
how do you mean?  were you not able to successfully turn in an FW?


i did sokay with the a5, but in general the fw's couldn't quite perform on the edge as well - very instable.

remember, i often flew alone against odds - Fw's did better in a more cooperative environment.