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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: mg1942 on January 17, 2008, 06:13:38 PM
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http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006319.html
Time Warner currently charges customers a flat monthly rate for Internet access. According to reports Time Warner will test a new pricing model that creates a multi-tiered pricing plan based on broadband usage. Time Warner would put caps on usage and charge more should you use too much bandwidth based on your monthly plan. For example, if you view too many streamed online videos, buy too many songs from iTunes, or are a heavy user of P2P services than you might get hit with a Time Warner "overage charge."
Boy I hope this does not spread to other ISPs.
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Degenerates from unlimited to limited....yeah....WTG.
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If they do that, they'll lose a lot of customers (myself included) who only have "high speed" internet for gaming and downloading. Which, AFAIK, is just about everyone who has it.
Smart move Time Warner. :rolleyes:
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If mine does then i'll kick them to the curb.
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See Rule #7
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I was just wondering if I should post about this...
Honestly it can be a double edged sword. People that leave torrent clients running 24/7 downloading illegal movies should pay more IMHO. Personally I just don't get it. I knew a guy that would download "pirated" movies the week the movie was released in theaters... usually some other language with subtitles, or hand held "recordings" of the movie from a camera. Utter #$#$ quality, but he could say he saw the movie (dumb way to save $7 IMHO).
On the flip side, say I pay for a subscription to a site that has "movies" . Here I am paying already for content, then they want to hit me for bandwidth too? HELLS no! :mad: Add to that subscription sites selling movies like Netflix / Amazon, so on... people will not pay for those subscriptions if they have to pay on top of it for bandwidth.
I can see lawsuits regarding this, and overall harming internet usage / progress at the same time.
I guess overall I am against it.
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I hope they fail so miserably.
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Yeah, I was at loss when I read that.
While other first-world countries now offering 50-100 mbps UNLIMITED fiber optic or wireless internet connection, ISPs here in the US is telling us to curb our activities. What time warner is doing is a huge step backwards.
Time Warner should be upgrading its service like what Rolex is using up "in the mountains" (in my dreams at least)
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Originally posted by JB73
I was just wondering if I should post about this...
Honestly it can be a double edged sword. People that leave torrent clients running 24/7 downloading illegal movies should pay more IMHO. Personally I just don't get it. I knew a guy that would download "pirated" movies the week the movie was released in theaters... usually some other language with subtitles, or hand held "recordings" of the movie from a camera. Utter #$#$ quality, but he could say he saw the movie (dumb way to save $7 IMHO).
On the flip side, say I pay for a subscription to a site that has "movies" . Here I am paying already for content, then they want to hit me for bandwidth too? HELLS no! :mad: Add to that subscription sites selling movies like Netflix / Amazon, so on... people will not pay for those subscriptions if they have to pay on top of it for bandwidth.
I can see lawsuits regarding this, and overall harming internet usage / progress at the same time.
I guess overall I am against it.
I use my internet to download some shows from my native country (Philippines), Korean Dramas, and game shows and anime from Japan. All these won't see a light of day on cable or DVD release here in the US.
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What happened to those HD movies they were gonna let everyone download?
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Charge by usage? Yeah, that worked for AOL. It worked so well, they had to go to flat monthly fee or fail.
Good idea, I hope they paid someone a lot of money to ignore history.
I bet the other ISP's are currently laughing their tulips off.
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Originally posted by AKIron
What happened to those HD movies they were gonna let everyone download?
Nothing and this what some believe is the reason why Time Warner is testing out this new pricing plan. Warner Studios recently announced the ability to download HD movies from their website, which of course is part of Time Warner. I think it's based on the whole fact that there is a large push to introduce these "large downloads" in the mainstream media.
Though, while I believe this pricing plan is a bad idea, it will only really affect those that like download movies, and other heavy users of large downloads It won't affect those that use their broadband connections for gaming.
The thing people should be worried about are the moves from the ISPs to get rid of network neutrality and start charging content providers for equal priority on the network with the ISP's own services.
ack-ack
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Didnt Cox or someone else already start turning off high bandwidth users?
Honestly, Im not a bandwidth hog these days. I do notice they are selling faster connections for $15-$40 more a month at TW too
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They are just like everyone else. It's all about seeing how much they can charge before they begin to lose customers.
It's sux, but what are you going to do except not use whoever adopts this business model.
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how much bandwidth is wasted on spam e-mails and such?
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I'm currently enrolled in online classes for a degree seeking program which some of the content is streaming video and such. So I don't like the idea but thats capitalism. ATT has been bugging me anyway and I get my television from satallite.
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Yep that's our cable companies. Always charging more for less service. I dropped my cable connection 3 years ago for DSL. DSL was more than 2x as fast and $20 bucks cheaper. Cable was connecting at .9 gig and DSL at 1.9 gig. The funny thing was when I went to leave cable they said they could speed my connection up. I said I'm still saving 20$ and they said they could lower the price. I told them they should have thought about that sooner. I also dropped my cable tv for satelite tv.
I never measured the speed of my Cable connection when I first hooked it up but I swear it got slower and slower.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
If mine does then i'll kick them to the curb.
ditto
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Setting price by speed should be plenty. Offer som low speed alternatives (less than 1mbps) for cheap and raise the prices on the high speed (10-100mbps) connections. After all its 10% of the users that use 90% of the bandwith anyway and i would not be suprised if they have the really fast connections so they should "pay" the for the majority of the infrastructure upgrades.
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I bet the other ISP's are currently laughing their tulips off.
We are.
In a company podcast early today the ceo of verizon was asked about this, his response was:
Well in the words of Ronald Reagan to jimmy Carter in a presidential debate
" Well there you go again"
He also stated emphatically verizon will NOT be following this lil trend as it would run off customers, deter future customers and possibly cause the company to fail .
On the otherhand he applauded time weeners move in its effort to bring morwe customers to verizon's Fios service
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time warner is aol. didn't they buy em?
everything evil is embraced by time warner.. they use the most vile scemes to sell their publications and tapes.. make book clubs seem honest and forthright.
Their mag is toilet paper.. time is simply a lefty piece of trash.
lazs
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They must have a socialist agenda :lol
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yeah.. I guess that you and I are not the only ones who think so tho..
http://givingupcontrol.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/time-warner-cable-tries-socialism-and-it-doesn%E2%80%99t-work/
lazs
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:lol