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Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: Chapel on January 18, 2008, 08:55:01 AM
Allied Pilots and Ground Crews,

We have an important decision and it seems the choices for our equipment upgrades will be expanding. I've seen a rumor that the map may remain the same for the next stage of this war, but until confirmation I'm going to assume that the map may also change.

Based upon what you've seen so far in the arena, and the tactics employed, I'd like to hold a vote on which plane(s) you'd like to choose.
Please give your primary AND secondary choices, as we may get two choices depending on if we win the first stage and if the points system is used.

Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-3 (sub A-5)
C.202
Ju 88A-4
M-3 Halftrack
Tiger I

Allied Choices
A-20G
B-26B
Boston MK III
Hurricane II C or D
Lancaster III
P-38G
P-40E
Seafire IIC
Spitfire V
Spitfire Mk IX
Il-2 Type 3
Sherman


Here are the allied AND axis choices so we can see what we might be up against. Don't neglect the ground choice out of hand, as it may become important, though in my opinion I feel something that can land more bombs on target would be the best choice.

I'm not that familiar with the heavy bombers, so hopefully someone will chime in on which is preferable. It also appears the P-38, and Spit IX are available, and would be brutaly effective in the air war.

My first impression choices:
Heavy Bomber - The lancaster has the most bombs, not sure how this'll be affected and what bomb loads will be available. But I don't fly heavy bombers much so I don't know the details. The A-20 looks formidible too.

Secondary Choice: P-38G It can carry 2X1000lb bombs, and has a nose cannon for taking out enemy formations and in the right hands is a decent fighter.

Third Choice: Spit IX - it's a quick fighter with a decent clip, and great turn radius.

Chime in fellas! Everyone's opinion is important.

Thanks!
Chapel
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: waystin2 on January 18, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
First Choice-

B-26B

Second choice-

Spitfire Mark 9

Oink
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: yankedudel on January 18, 2008, 11:48:17 AM
1) P-38G
2) B-26B or A-20

With the close proximities of this map I don't think the heavy bombers are all that advantageous.  You would have to up on the far side of the map to gain alt. for a mass formation bomb run on airfields because towns aren't strategic in this "war."

The 38 can carry 2 eggs, get them on target then boogie back home for more.  They could probably put the same amount of ords on target in the same, or less, time unless the lancs go NOE.

Just my opinion...not even worth 2 cents anymore!

Regards,
Yank
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: whiteman on January 18, 2008, 12:06:13 PM
1. B-26B  If not the B-26 then something similar.
2. P-38G
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: trap2000 on January 18, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
If we get two plane upgrades I’d vote for the P-38G and Spit IX. The P-38G can hit ground targets with 500lb bombs and rockets and the Spit IX’s could provide fighter cover. If we end up with only one choice then I’d go with the 38. It can put ordinance on target and then function as a decent fighter. I agree with Yankee that the short hops between fields don’t really play to the strengths of the heavy bombers.
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: Redlegs on January 18, 2008, 01:38:21 PM
B26, Lancaster or Il2
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: zmeg on January 18, 2008, 01:47:38 PM
B-26
 Huri-2C
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: Panzzer on January 18, 2008, 02:06:47 PM
P-39

Oops, am I in a wrong thread? More appropriate in the wishlist-forum.
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: swareiam on January 18, 2008, 02:50:20 PM
1st - A-20 Havoc [8 - 500 pounders, Then becomes a fighter]
2nd - Hurricane II C  [Four 20mm Cannon]<<<

:aok
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: TexMurphy on January 18, 2008, 03:02:24 PM
Allied needs something to counter the 110 its armour is insane its basicly 303 immune. Id rather see it introduced a little bit later but now that its in Id like to see a counter move from allied HQ.

Tex
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: Panzzer on January 18, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
Tex, are you back? Good to see you! :)
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: TexMurphy on January 18, 2008, 03:31:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Panzzer
Tex, are you back? Good to see you! :)


Yeah sort of... starting to miss the game but other hobbies taking up lot of time...

Started building my own skis... ;)

Tex
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: FiLtH on January 18, 2008, 03:54:33 PM
At first I thought the B26, but since killin ack and barracks is important, the A20 is better suited.

A20
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: 68Raptor on January 18, 2008, 04:01:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by trap2000
If we get two plane upgrades I’d vote for the P-38G and Spit IX. The P-38G can hit ground targets with 500lb bombs and rockets and the Spit IX’s could provide fighter cover. If we end up with only one choice then I’d go with the 38. It can put ordinance on target and then function as a decent fighter. I agree with Yankee that the short hops between fields don’t really play to the strengths of the heavy bombers.


I'll be in more often, work and new stuff has kept me busy... I second Trap2000 here.
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: bustr on January 18, 2008, 04:56:35 PM
If the map stays the same for the next round. And yoou want balanced game play not an allie vulch hoard.

Allied Choices

Choice 1          
A-20G
Spitfire Mk IX  
Sherman

Choice 2
Boston MK III
P-40E

Not considering

Il-2 Type 3
Lancaster III
B-26B
Hurricane II C
Hurricane II D
P-38G
Spitfire V
Seafire IIC
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: zmeg on January 18, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
Map status as of 2200Z



  (http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj81/tonyzmeg/2200zulu.jpg)


 THat's 8 fields captured at 2 pts per field = 16 points how many plains do we get?
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: Mister Fork on January 18, 2008, 07:40:46 PM
I confirm. Allies have won round one.

Which aircraft do you require for the next round?
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: Larry on January 18, 2008, 07:50:07 PM
What time is 2200Z in CST?
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: waystin2 on January 18, 2008, 07:58:46 PM
4 PM CST is 2200 Zulu equivalent.
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: zmeg on January 18, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by waystin2
4 PM CST is 2200 Zulu equivalent.


  Actually it's 6:00pm CST


  If we choose the B26 do we get formations?
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: waystin2 on January 18, 2008, 08:14:36 PM
Hello Zmeg,

I pulled my conversion straight from the NOAA website.  
Please doublecheck the numbers.  
NOAA UTC Conversion (http://hurricanes.noaa.gov/zulu-utc.html)
4pm CST= 2200 Zulu:aok

Oink
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: ALLEN86 on January 19, 2008, 12:00:19 AM
hurri-2c and the lanc please
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: PhantomBarron on January 19, 2008, 12:15:13 AM
110G2 Now were talking
Title: Allies need some cannons...
Post by: Phil on January 19, 2008, 11:19:37 AM
Gents...

The AvA is gettin' around and more players are comin' in for a test !

Boy 'o Boy I've come across some A6M and 110 pilots and I was blown out of the skies !!!!:(

Don't get me wrong, flying a Spit1, I was able to initially pounced them BUT to be able to destroy them, I needed to saddle up. Once I did that, the average good pilot in a 110 or Zeke was able to turn the battle around !

I hope that the choice for the second round will include the SPITV or SPIT9.

Can't wait to see what will happen !

Phil / OPP7755
Title: Re: Allies need some cannons...
Post by: Shifty on January 19, 2008, 12:21:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Phil
Gents...

The AvA is gettin' around and more players are comin' in for a test !

Boy 'o Boy I've come across some A6M and 110 pilots and I was blown out of the skies !!!!:(

Don't get me wrong, flying a Spit1, I was able to initially pounced them BUT to be able to destroy them, I needed to saddle up. Once I did that, the average good pilot in a 110 or Zeke was able to turn the battle around !

I hope that the choice for the second round will include the SPITV or SPIT9.

Can't wait to see what will happen !

Phil / OPP7755


P-40E or P-38G, Spits are for kids. :D
Title: Re: Re: Allies need some cannons...
Post by: Phil on January 19, 2008, 03:13:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shifty
P-40E or P-38G, Spits are for kids. :D


Well give me a chance to show ya what my Canadian pilots can do with Spitfires V's or IX's ! My Kids will become respectable MEN in few sorties !

Phil / OPP7755
C.O Canadian Eagles Fighter Squadron
:aok :rofl :p :D :lol
Title: Allied Plane Upgrades....
Post by: TexMurphy on January 19, 2008, 04:41:57 PM
No plane upgrade for allied????