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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nilsen on January 19, 2008, 12:09:46 PM
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This has to be right up your alley :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GAUnuuBkW4
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I'd hit it.
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That was awesome! :aok
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Well if England ever gets attack by roving bands of eight year olds they got it covered... it'll get banned anyway... you could put someones eye out with that.
kudos for them finding a use for 3.5 floppies as well. I'd like to see something like that for paint ball or bb's
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Funny
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The title should have been "For all you Europeans that don't have a 2nd amendment, here's an option" ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
The title should have been "For all you Europeans that don't have a 2nd amendment, here's an option" ;)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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sad that the once proud brits have been reduced to this.
lazs
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This is what free people do instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvr9GZ3r9A&feature=related
lazs
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free people? :lol
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Originally posted by Nilsen
free people? :lol
Foreign concept I guess to many Europeans, a people who are free to own weapons, and play with them.
Many guys from other countries come to my company for training like it if we take them out to shoot guns. A lot of them never have fired a handgun or even a rifle. It's a freedom and a right many of us don't take for granted.
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Foreign concept i guess to many Americans that Europeans can have weapons and play with them. ;)
I can take anyone i want to shooting range and let em fire away until we run out of ammo.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Foreign concept i guess to many Americans that Europeans can have weapons and play with them. ;)
I can take anyone i want to shooting range and let em fire away until we run out of ammo.
Oh yeah, Europe is all about unrestricked weapons ownership. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Dago
Oh yeah, Europe is all about unrestricked weapons ownership. :rolleyes:
Find a rule or law that denies me the oportunity to buy and use as many guns as i want.
Come back when you have the answer. :)
Thank you.
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guns are not toys, you don't "play" with them.
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You know what i mean
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Originally posted by john9001
guns are not toys, you don't "play" with them.
I play with guns, its part of my job description.
I also get to play with chains, handcuffs, and chemical agents.
Whats your point?
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Originally posted by john9001
guns are not toys, you don't "play" with them.
Unfortunately, many, many do not know that.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Find a rule or law that denies me the oportunity to buy and use as many guns as i want.
Come back when you have the answer. :)
Thank you.
Can you carry a weapon? Concealed Carry?
Do you have to declare a reason to purchase a gun?
Do you have to maintain or prove activity level to own guns?
Can you buy a full auto weapon?
Is there much red tape involved to buy a gun in Norway?
Is Norways laws typical and representative of the majority of other European countries?
Why did you question the statement that ththe people of the USA are a free people?
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Originally posted by john9001
guns are not toys, you don't "play" with them.
I don't want to be a jerk, but that statement is pure opinion.
Need proof? Back up that statement with facts and evidence. To start, show in a factual nature that guns have no entertainment value, and that guns are in fact more hazardous than other objects that are considered "toys" or are "played with". Examples of these other objects are motor vehicles and any small object that children might choke on.
Then add consideration to public education efforts taken on behalf of people who use these objects, and enforcement efforts taken to ensure safe behavior. Examples include measures taken to ensure safety at gun shows, shooting ranges, public freeways, and off-road vehicle parks. Examine the effectiveness of these measures, and the injury/fatality rates.
That sort of comparison makes guns look like a lot safer "toy" than almost any recreational motor vehicle.
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Wow, how the heck did a simple thread about some spinning pieces of wood and flying rubber bands go this far south so quick?
Oh yeah, people keep bringing pointless and unrelated political arguments where they don't belong and ruining it for the rest of us, how silly of me.
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Originally posted by Dago
Can you carry a weapon? Concealed Carry?
Do you have to declare a reason to purchase a gun?
Do you have to maintain or prove activity level to own guns?
Can you buy a full auto weapon?
Is there much red tape involved to buy a gun in Norway?
Is Norways laws typical and representative of the majority of other European countries?
Why did you question the statement that ththe people of the USA are a free people?
No.. no need for anyone
No
No..
No need for anyone
No, not really
Dunno, but i havent heard of any country in europe were you cant buy a gun if you want one
I questioned the statement, because beeing able to carry a gun does not have to have anything to do with freedom. I could claim that i have the freedom not to encounter others with concealed weapons and i can also claim that i have more real freedom because i do not have the same need for a gun to protect myself as many americans say they do. ;)
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Living in Norway, is there a reason to carry a weapon?
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Wow, how the heck did a simple thread about some spinning pieces of wood and flying rubber bands go this far south so quick?
New here? (yes, I know better)
:D
I'm more surprised lately if a thread doesn't go south :rofl
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Originally posted by croduh
Living in Norway, is there a reason to carry a weapon?
Nope.
Hunters, sport shooters and other intersted people have guns but they dont need to carry them around and prolly dont want to either. I mean, who the heck wants that thing in your pocket all day.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Nope.
Hunters, sport shooters and other intersted people have guns but they dont need to carry them around and prolly dont want to either. I mean, who the heck wants that thing in your pocket all day.
So Nilsen, when you cast a questioning word regarding freedom in the USA, I can say I never served or was required to serve in the military, or in any government service. Do Norwegians enjoy that same freedom of choice?
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Originally posted by Dago
So Nilsen, when you cast a questioning word regarding freedom in the USA, I can say I never served or was required to serve in the military, or in any government service. Do Norwegians enjoy that same freedom of choice?
Yes.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yes.
Really, Norwegian men are not required to serve the military or the government now when they are young men?
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Originally posted by Dago
Really, Norwegian men are not required to serve the military or the government now when they are young men?
No.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
No.
Did you serve?
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Yes
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Norway has strict gun control laws, with police permits and membership of a gun club for pistols, and a licence and hunting test for rifles.
Also this:Norway has mandatory military service of nineteen months for men between the ages of 18.5 (17 with parental consent) and 44 (55 in case of war). Beginning in 2006, the armed forces will also invite females to take a pre-service medical examination, but they will not be drafted unless they sign a declaration of willingness. The actual draft time is six months for the home guard, and twelve months for the regular army, air force and navy.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Norway has strict gun control laws, with police permits and membership of a gun club for pistols, and a licence and hunting test for rifles.
That anyone can get unless you are a convicted criminal or under 18 (younger if you are a sport shooter) so how strict they are can be debated.
With regards to military service, that information is out of date.
You can say no to millitary service and then you dont have to. They dont even have room for half the guys who want to serve so only the dedicated gets to serve.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
That anyone can get unless you are a convicted criminal or under 18 (younger if you are a sport shooter) so how strict they are can be debated.
You can say no to millitary service and then you dont have to. They dont even have room for half the guys who want to serve so only the dedicated can serve.
Can you buy a pistol over the internet, have it delivered to a license gun dealer, and go down and pick it up? Just curious.
I can also carry my pistol to the great outdoors and fire it, as long as its not a federal park. (we have a few abandoned gravel pits here where folks go out and shoot)
We have to go through an FBI background check before we're able to purchase a pistol in the U.S. (At least I had to....)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Can you buy a pistol over the internet, have it delivered to a license gun dealer, and go down and pick it up? Just curious.
I can also carry my pistol to the great outdoors and fire it, as long as its not a federal park. (we have a few abandoned gravel pits here where folks go out and shoot)
We have to go through an FBI background check before we're able to purchase a pistol in the U.S. (At least I had to....)
You can buy weapons of the internet and have it delivered, either privatly or through a gun dealer. Just check any of the online auctions here and you will find guns. The seller requires that you have your papers in order though.
You can fire your weapon in the great outdoors as long as you have a license for the gun and dont cause a danger to others. I took my gun out in the boat or to the coast often and fired it at tin cans or other things.
You need a clean record. I think you can have fines and whatnot, but if you are convicted of a serious or is it violent crime? you wont get a license for a number of years.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
You can buy weapons of the internet and have it delivered, either privatly or through a gun dealer. Just check any of the online auctions here and you will find guns. The seller requires that you have your papers in order though.
You can fire your weapon in the great outdoors as long as you have a license for the gun and dont cause a danger to others. I took my gun out in the boat or to the coast often and fired it at tin cans or other things.
You need a clean record. I think you can have fines and whatnot, but if you are convicted of a serious or is it violent crime? you wont get a license for a number of years.
They sound very similar to our gun laws.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
They sound very similar to our gun laws.
Indeed they are.
The main difference is that you cant carry a concealed weapon and i dont think you can own a full auto assault rifle. Im not 100% sure on the last one though as there was a minor case a few months back regarding a comedian who fired his sub machine gun in his own apartment. He didnt really break any laws as he supposedly had permits for it and had many more that he also had permits for.
What got Dago off was prolly my freedom remark and :lol that directly followed lazs usual dumb bate attempt comment in a thread that was about a funny gun that shot rubber bands. Im only suprised that he didnt include some sort of socialist comment in there as well. I guess he has a fever or is just not feeling well :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
They sound very similar to our gun laws.
Exactly, Nilsen thinks his country is free, yet he questions or implies the citizens of the USA aren't. Interesting, and incorrect.
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Originally posted by Dago
Exactly, Nilsen thinks his country is free, yet he questions or implies the citizens of the USA aren't. Interesting, and incorrect.
Read the above post (reply to ripsnort) as im not gonna bother with posting it again
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QUOTE]Originally posted by Ripsnort
We have to go through an FBI background check before we're able to purchase a pistol in the U.S. (At least I had to....) [/QUOTE]
The background check took about 5min over the phone.(at least for me it did)
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Now Nilsen, explain the penchant for funny looking hats. :D
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That i cant explain :D
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the hats are to make them seem funny at first so you dont expect them to burn your village and satisfy your women.
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uhhh.. nelson.. I think you missed the point.. I was talking about brit gun laws not yours.
I don't know much about yours but if it is impossible to carry concealed then you are not really free. I think that we are not as free as we should be either tho.
Lots of our gun laws restrict freedom and should be changed.
Brit gun laws are the result of more and more infringement on the freedom of the people. They took a little bit here and a little bit there.. "sensible gun laws" and then.. they just rounded em all up.
as for your country.. I guess if, as you say, you don't have a "need" to carry concealed then you really don't have any reason to stop people who want to. If there are no bad guys then why have any laws at all?
lazs
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Do you really rate freedom by one so small uninteresting and insignificant thing as guns?
Very very few people around the world even care about guns. But if its that important to you then yes you have more gun freedom. I rate a low crime rate and public safety as a far more important freedom, but then i dont give a crap about guns, and neither do the vast majority of the population around the world.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
and neither do the vast majority of the population around the world.
that is an opinion.
not a fact.
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nelson.. I would say that the ability to defend yourself against tyranny (of any kind) is the absolute minimum thing needed by a free people.
If you are mugged or raped or beaten to death by thugs and you are not able to defend yourself because your government said you aren't allowed the tools...
then free speech and the ability to move about freely and all the other freedoms are pretty darn worthless.
It is good that you live in a place that people who don't look exactly like you and think exactly like you find unpleasant to live in or, are kept out. that is a pretty feeble thing to bet on tho. I would rather take care of myself or.. at least have the ability.
If someone stronger than you has the ability to mug you and you have been disarmed... how is that freedom?
lazs
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Whatever.. its a discussion years and years of experience on this bbs has shown that none of us can win. Its a weekly event and you have never won it and neither have I.
American and Norwegian society is far to different when it comes to safety.
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Originally posted by john9001
that is an opinion.
not a fact.
and the need for guns is also an opinon, not a fact
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Originally posted by Nilsen
American and Norwegian society is far to different when it comes to safety.
are we talking about safety or freedom, a bird in a cage is safer than a bird in the wild, but which one is free.
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Originally posted by lazs2
This is what free people do instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvr9GZ3r9A&feature=related
lazs
I think you will like this one lazs ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O39t7jmZgW4
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Originally posted by john9001
are we talking about safety or freedom, a bird in a cage is safer than a bird in the wild, but which one is free.
to be safe and able to do what you want is to be free
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ok.. I want to be able to carry a handgun concealed in case I am ever attacked or I can help someone else who is.
your idea of free right? Do what I want.. and.. it isn't even hurting anyone. Sorta like smoking pot but with a purpose.
lazs
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If someone breaks into your house and you don't have a gun, how are you going to shoot him?
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Thats a Cool rubber band gun .
Now I live in england I'd like to point once and for all that we have 'no hand guns', NOT no guns at all.
we have 2 gun cabinets in my parents home with shotguns and hunting rifles, we have bows and arrows, knives, we have plenty of things to kill stuff with thankyou
we eat deer, goose, ducks, pheasant, pidgeon. fish for Salmon and sea trout from the river
AND when I go surfing I'll see natural girls sunbathing topless down on the beach !!!
england aint so bad
But if you talking about the seperate kingdom of 'London' thats a different matter ;)
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nelson.. got to ask.. what is your game plan if you are mugged?
lazs