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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKIron on January 19, 2008, 09:20:10 PM
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Every GOP candidate for the last 28 years who won SC took the party nomination.
McCain beat Huckabee in a state I would have granted to Huckabee.
It's still early but I have a gut feeling MCain will win the nomination and the presidency. Maybe it's just those chicken crispers I had at Chili's tonight.
I would like McCain but for his immigration stance. Here's to hoping he can and will somehow stem the tide of flow from Mexico.
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McCain would make a good figurehead, as far as being a stand up American, but he is 71 years old and that give me pause. Fortunately for McCain, there are no other republicans worth tossing a vote for. He gets the nod from me.
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71 is the new 67.
He looks like he is in pretty good physical shape to me. I've seen 30 yr olds look worse.
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good point. He does look to be in his early 60s....amazing considering the years he spent in hellnoi.
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Yaaaaaa GO J-MAC
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Bad tidings for the republican party if they think that RINO is the best candidate.
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He is their best candidate IMO and likely the best choice because he's the most middle of the road. If any of the Republicans running were to be president I'd rather it be him. I don't think I'd vote for him as a registered independent but it wouldn't bug me if he won the election.
All the other Republican candidates are either far too corrupt or whacked out on either the religious agenda or some other wacky BS. McCain has already proven in the past that he will step across the isle to work with Democrats, which is what any good politician should do.
So in short he's likely the best of the worst.
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Originally posted by crockett
He is their best candidate IMO and likely the best choice because he's the most middle of the road. If any of the Republicans running were to be president I'd rather it be him. I don't think I'd vote for him as a registered independent but it wouldn't bug me if he won the election.
All the other Republican candidates are either far too corrupt or whacked out on either the religious agenda or some other wacky BS. McCain has already proven in the past that he will step across the isle to work with Democrats, which is what any good politician should do.
So in short he's likely the best of the worst.
YOU think he's the Gop's best candidate because he's the closest one to your way of thinking (a Democrat). Stepping across the aisle to work with Democrats (Something the media rarely thinks Dems should do, as 'bi-partisanship' typically means the Gop side gives up something) equates to surrendering the wishes of the people who voted him in, although it DOES make him a media favorite. Now that the primaries where Democrats and Independents can vote for McCain are over, (New Hampshire and South Carolina), Florida is upcoming, so we can get a true measure of his popularity with the party. Looks now like it's down to McCain and Romney. McCain gets free advertising/praise on the media round table shows, but Romney can buy all the ads he wants. Should be close. As for me, hell will freeze over before I ever place a vote for McCain---he's a Republican who is against lowering taxes, FOR open borders/amnesty, and actually considered being Kerry's veep for a few minutes in 2004:confused: I'd much rather see President Hillary than have this salamander elected and put the final nail into the conservative coffin
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As a mere 'furriner' with an interest in the Presidential race. I came to the conclusion that McCain will be next president. It's a process of elimination. Clinton is seen as too liberal, a hate figure with many right wingers. She is also a woman. Obama, he does come across as presidential. But he is young, his name is Obama a name perilously close to Osama one of America's great enemies. His second name is Hussein and he is black. I suspect some people are already talking of him as the anti christ. He might well be president one day, not this time. Edwards? No, not in this universe.
So it's a Republican president. Huckabee? I think the jury is still out on Huckabee. He won't win against Clinton and bookmakers give him odds of 22/1 compared to Clinton with 11/10.
Romney is a possibility but he isn't as well know as the final candidate.
So by a process of elimination, we are left with McCain.
President McCain.
Simplistic I know but there you are. That's my opinion.
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But, but Ron Paul.... No one ever mentions Ron Paul anymore.
:confused:
Mac
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Originally posted by cpxxx
As a mere 'furriner' with an interest in the Presidential race. I came to the conclusion that McCain will be next president. It's a process of elimination. Clinton is seen as too liberal, a hate figure with many right wingers. She is also a woman. Obama, he does come across as presidential. But he is young, his name is Obama a name perilously close to Osama one of America's great enemies. His second name is Hussein and he is black. I suspect some people are already talking of him as the anti christ. He might well be president one day, not this time. Edwards? No, not in this universe.
So it's a Republican president. Huckabee? I think the jury is still out on Huckabee. He won't win against Clinton and bookmakers give him odds of 22/1 compared to Clinton with 11/10.
So by a process of elimination, we are left with McCain.
President McCain.
Simplistic I know but there you are. That's my opinion.
Romney actually leads in delegates at the moment, and has won the ONE major 'swing-state' primary (Michigan) where McCain's biggest constituencies, Democrats and Independents, couldn't vote for him.
Aside from that, take away abortion and foreign policy, and McCain and Hillary are pretty much the same person:aok
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He is their best candidate IMO and likely the best choice because he's the most middle of the road.
Middle of the road because he has no core beliefs, he will go wherever the camera or polls tell him to go.
An old friend once told me, when I first got into politics and campaigns:
Sit on the fence and you'll get shot from Both Sides.
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there are very very few things that you should "reach across the isle to democrats" for... mcain doesn't know which ones those are.
the democrats of course feel it is a one way street.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
there are very very few things that you should "reach across the isle to democrats" for...
Might need to reach across the isle and smack Hillary up side the head to keep her eyes from rolling out. ;)
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Originally posted by bj229r
YOU think he's the Gop's best candidate because he's the closest one to your way of thinking (a Democrat). Stepping across the aisle to work with Democrats (Something the media rarely thinks Dems should do, as 'bi-partisanship' typically means the Gop side gives up something) equates to surrendering the wishes of the people who voted him in, although it DOES make him a media favorite. Now that the primaries where Democrats and Independents can vote for McCain are over, (New Hampshire and South Carolina), Florida is upcoming, so we can get a true measure of his popularity with the party. Looks now like it's down to McCain and Romney. McCain gets free advertising/praise on the media round table shows, but Romney can buy all the ads he wants. Should be close. As for me, hell will freeze over before I ever place a vote for McCain---he's a Republican who is against lowering taxes, FOR open borders/amnesty, and actually considered being Kerry's veep for a few minutes in 2004:confused: I'd much rather see President Hillary than have this salamander elected and put the final nail into the conservative coffin
Yes, sometimes when a president is elected to lead our nation, a nation of many people and many different beliefs. He sometimes has to step across the party line and do things his party may not like.
If a Republican is elected president, he is sworn to oath to serve the entire country not just the Republican party.
If a Democrat is elected president, he is sworn to oath to serve the entire country not just the Democratic party.
Also, last time I checked our Cositution hadn't been totally destroyed.. Which means at least for a little while longer, I still have a right to Free Speech and my own opinion.
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Originally posted by lazs2
there are very very few things that you should "reach across the isle to democrats" for... mcain doesn't know which ones those are.
the democrats of course feel it is a one way street.
lazs
Originally posted by AKIron
Might need to reach across the isle and smack Hillary up side the head to keep her eyes from rolling out.
You both might want to reach across the aisle . Unless you're on "Survivor."
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Bad tidings for the republican party if they think that RINO is the best candidate.
If you think that is bad, the demoncratic party may possibly nominate an evil scheming power mad lieing criminal woman, or a young black man who has no experience except for screwing up things in Illinois.
In comparison, McCain is a freaking great choice.
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A big reason that I supported Bush so much is that I didn't want the looney left to be right. Their rants and tactics were so outlandish, they I just didn't want him to be as bad as they claimed he was.............For better or for worse, i'm starting to view most hard core Republicans in the same light as the looney left. Same issue's, different stance, but the same childish bickering and coltish convictions....
I could give a crap less about the GOP or the Democratic Party...I used to be a hard core Republican...I worked on many of campaigns, and ran my University's branch of College Republican's for three years....All I can say is that if you think you are really into politics, than do yourself a favor, and either study it for a couple years, or actually get involved in the process....The end result should be that you realize what a joke the people are, and you will finally be able to live your life again.
I support Senator McCain for the Presidency...And let me put some more salt in the wound...I'd love to see Senator Lieberman as his Vice President.....
"Derhhhhhhh....RINO RINO RINO....Dehhhhh".
"You don't know what you're talking about cav....You're not Patriotic".....
right?
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Originally posted by cav58d
I support Senator McCain for the Presidency...And let me put some more salt in the wound...I'd love to see Senator Lieberman as his Vice President.....
I liked Lieberman until Gore put him back on the party path. McCain could do worse.
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Originally posted by cav58d
A big reason that I supported Bush so much is that I didn't want the looney left to be right. Their rants and tactics were so outlandish, they I just didn't want him to be as bad as they claimed he was.............For better or for worse, i'm starting to view most hard core Republicans in the same light as the looney left. Same issue's, different stance, but the same childish bickering and coltish convictions....
I could give a crap less about the GOP or the Democratic Party...I used to be a hard core Republican...I worked on many of campaigns, and ran my University's branch of College Republican's for three years....All I can say is that if you think you are really into politics, than do yourself a favor, and either study it for a couple years, or actually get involved in the process....The end result should be that you realize what a joke the people are, and you will finally be able to live your life again.
I support Senator McCain for the Presidency...And let me put some more salt in the wound...I'd love to see Senator Lieberman as his Vice President.....
"Derhhhhhhh....RINO RINO RINO....Dehhhhh".
"You don't know what you're talking about cav....You're not Patriotic".....
right?
What did you stand for then, as a Republican, vs what do you stand for now? (Yah, I concur, it IS a given that most elected peeps ARE jokes)
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Originally posted by bj229r
What did you stand for then, as a Republican, vs what do you stand for now? (Yah, I concur, it IS a given that most elected peeps ARE jokes)
What really brought me towards the GOP for those years was National Security and the War on Terrorism. I also prefer the conservative model to working an economy over anything I have seen from the left....I still think the Republican Party is better suited, or at least more willing to deal with the tough national security and foreign policy issue's that we face, but theres just too many things that I disagree with to call myself a true Republican anymore.....IE- Abortion, "Gay" rights, Energy and Oil, Environment, and education and health care to some degree....
Republican or Democrat, i'm just very tired of the system...Obviously money makes the world go round, and thats no different in politics, and unfortunately, to get the money and win it seems all you can do is play partisan politics and bend over the special interst groups.....
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Originally posted by cav58d
What really brought me towards the GOP for those years was National Security and the War on Terrorism. I also prefer the conservative model to working an economy over anything I have seen from the left....I still think the Republican Party is better suited, or at least more willing to deal with the tough national security and foreign policy issue's that we face, but theres just too many things that I disagree with to call myself a true Republican anymore.....IE- Abortion, "Gay" rights, Energy and Oil, Environment, and education and health care to some degree....
Republican or Democrat, i'm just very tired of the system...Obviously money makes the world go round, and thats no different in politics, and unfortunately, to get the money and win it seems all you can do is play partisan politics and bend over the special interst groups.....
Nicely said
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He's a RINO.
Given the options, Im not surprised he is doing slightly better than others.
In the long run, I hope he's bounced out.
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Originally posted by LePaul
He's a RINO.
Given the options, Im not surprised he is doing slightly better than others.
In the long run, I hope he's bounced out.
Michigan is the only 'normal' state he has TRIED to win and hasn't--it was also the only one that didn't allow independents and Dems to vote for for GOP people. If he fails to win FLA, (another closed primary) he will likely will be facing a losing trend....lotta Republicans have long memories--"gang of 14"..anyone? HE will find that the adoring praise of Tim Russert, the Washington Post and the New York Times doesn't translate into votes.
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You could vote for anyone you wanted to in Michigan.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
You could vote for anyone you wanted to in Michigan.
shamus
Yup you right http://www.fairvote.org/?page=1801
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McCain will give us more of the Bush administration... and another 30 Million illegal aliens - just another RINO piece of crap
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and McCain takes Florida. Reported that Giuliani may drop out and support McCain. These two are my least favorite but gotta admit, a McCain/Giuliani ticket would be hard to beat.
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(http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/romney_depressed_redo.jpg)
Romney is a little depressed coming in second in Florida.