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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 007Rusty on January 22, 2008, 04:21:58 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080122/ap_en_mo/obit_ledger
looks like drug o.d.
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Didn't see that one coming....:huh
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080122/ap_en_mo/obit_ledger
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was found in mary kate olsen apt.....
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Just saw Knight's tale this weekend too....weird
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Wow, thats sad.
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I'd have to agree, didnt see that coming, if someone had said Brittany Spears or Lidnsey Lohan, that I would understand...
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Wow... what a shame. He had some serious talent. :(
That, and he has a young daughter... maybe 2 years old? Sad.
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Well, I hope it's not the usual OD on something.
Sad for his family either way...
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Wasn't he going to be the joker in one of those new comic-turned-movie shows?
Yeah, that one was a little bit of a surprise.
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yeah, that is very unusual, a hollywood actor dies from drug overdose, who wouda thought.:rolleyes:
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Who?
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:confused:
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Don't make me post in this thread!
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Wow. Too bad. I really enjoyed his acting. 28 years old, man thats tragically young to die.
yknurd, take the rest of the day off ;)
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Suspected suicide. If so, Ledger was selfish and irresponsible.
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LOL Drunky
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Somewhere in Heaven... Elvis has a new friend.
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Somewhere in Heaven... Elvis has a new friend.
Mac
Well if you believe in Heaven, then youbelieve in the bible.... suicides do not go to heaven.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Well if you believe in Heaven, then youbelieve in the bible.... suicides do not go to heaven.
I agree... Somewhere in Hell Kurt Cobine has a friend.
Better?
Mac
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Thats sad. Aside from the homosexuality, I thought he did a good job of portraying the modern cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain".
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Originally posted by AWMac
I agree... Somewhere in Hell Kurt Cobine has a friend.
Better?
Mac
Curt and Heath, sitting in a tree.
B-U-R-N-I-N-G
First comes Woe,
Then comes sorrow.
Get used to it boys,
it's the same tomorrow.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Curt and Heath, sitting in a tree.
B-U-R-N-I-N-G
First comes Woe,
Then comes sorrow.
Get used to it boys,
it's the same tomorrow.
:rofl :D :aok
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Thats sad. Aside from the homosexuality, I thought he did a good job of portraying the modern cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain".
And yer tryin to say what AquaShrimp....?
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That he was a fairly good actor.
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"i ain't quittin yewwwwwwwww aquashrimp."
- heath.
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Originally posted by JB88
"i ain't quittin yewwwwwwwww aquashrimp."
- heath.
lawlz
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Originally posted by 007Rusty
was found in mary kate olsen apt.....
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I really hope it turns out to be an accidental overdose. I always liked his work. I read somewhere he just finished his part as The Joker in the next Batman installment.
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See Rule #4
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Full story.....so far..................
Actor Heath Ledger Found Dead In NYC
Actor's Body Found In Lower Manhattan Residence
NEW YORK (CBS) ― Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan apartment, and police said drugs may have been a factor. The Australian-born actor was 28.
Ledger had an appointment for a massage at the residence in the tony SoHo neighborhood in New York, police department spokesman Paul Browne said. The massage therapist and a housekeeper went to his bedroom to get Ledger, and found his naked body in the bed at about 3:30 p.m. They tried to revive him, but he was already dead, police said.
Browne said there was no obvious indication of suicide.
A gaggle of paparazzi and gawkers began gathering outside the building, where police put up barricades to control a crowd of about 300 people. Onlookers craned their necks as officers brought out a black body bag on a gurney, took it across the sidewalk and put it into a white medical examiner's office van.
As the building door opened, the bystanders snapped pictures with their camera phones and rolled their video. "He's coming out!" some said.
The Australian-born actor was nominated for an Oscar for "Brokeback Mountain," where he met Michelle Williams in 2005. The two had lived in Brooklyn and had a daughter, Matilda, until they split up last year.
Ledger was set to appear in the next installment of the "Batman" movie opposite Christian Bale as the infamous "Joker" and was in the midst of filming "The Imaginarium Of Dr. Parnassus," reports CBS station WCBS-TV in New York.
Sources tell WCBS-TV's Scott Weinberger the death may be drug-related and that there were pills scattered around the room.
Ledger told The New York Times in a November interview that he "stressed out a little too much" during the Dylan film, and had trouble sleeping while portraying the Joker, whom he called a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."
"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told the Times. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.
The Australian-born actor was an Oscar nominee for his role in "Brokeback Mountain" and also starred in "The Patriot," "Monster's Ball," "A Knight's Tale," "Ned Kelly," "The Order," and "The Brothers Grimm."
Offers for other teen flicks came his way, but Ledger turned them down, preferring to remain idle than sign on for projects he didn't like.
"It wasn't a hard decision for me," Ledger told the Associated Press in 2001. "It was hard for everyone else around me to understand. Agents were like, 'You're crazy,' my parents were like, 'Come on, you have to eat.'"
His latest role was in "I'm Not There," in which he played one of the many incarnations of Bob Dylan - as did Cate Blanchett, whose performance in that film earned an Oscar nomination Tuesday for best supporting actress.
In 2001, he won a ShoWest Award for the Male Star of Tomorrow based on his performance in "The Patriot," and worldwide release of "A Knight's Tale." In 2003, he was named one of Australian GQ's Men of the Year for acting.
Ledger was a widely recognized figure in his Manhattan neighborhood, where he used to shop at a home and children's store. Michelle Vella, a buyer there, said she had frequently seen Ledger with his daughter -- carrying the 2-year-old on his shoulders, or having ice cream with her.
"It's so sad. They were really close," said Vella. "He's a very down to earth guy and an amazing father."
She said Ledger once bought a bookcase at the home store, and purchased stuffed animals and dresses for his daughter at the children's store.
"It's a shock; he's so young," said Taren Dolbashian, who works on the block and also had seen Ledger with his daughter on his shoulders. "He always seems so happy."
Before settling down with Williams, Ledger had relationships with actresses Heather Graham and Naomi Watts. He met Watts while working on "The Lords of Dogtown," a fictionalized version of a cult classic skateboarding documentary, in 2004.
Ledger was born in 1979 in Perth, in western Australia, to a mining engineer and a French teacher, and got his first acting role playing Peter Pan at age 10 at a local theater company. He began acting in independent films as a 16-year-old in Sydney and played a cyclist hoping to land a spot on an Olympic team in a 1996 television show, "Seat."
After several independent films and a starring role in the short-lived Fox TV series "Roar," Ledger moved to Los Angeles and costarred in "10 Things I Hate About You," a teen comedy reworking of "The Taming of the Shrew."
In talking about the Dylan film, Ledger told The New York Times he most admired that the singer was not someone who could be easily explained, saying he felt the same way about himself.
"Some people find their shtick," Ledger said. "I've never figured out who 'Heath Ledger' is on film: 'This is what you expect when you hire me, and it will be recognizable.'"
"People always feel compelled to sum you up, to presume that they have you and can describe you. That's fine. But there are many stories inside of me and a lot I want to achieve outside of one flat note."
The medical examiner's office planned an autopsy on Wednesday, spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Well if you believe in Heaven, then youbelieve in the bible.... suicides do not go to heaven.
I asked that question of the priest at our church one time. He replied that while suicide was indeed a sin, although it was not unforgivable. He further explained that people who commit suicide were sick and that when the Lord said that, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." He was not only mentioning those that are not only gentle, patient, and humble but also those that were long suffering. That the Lord has great love for all his creations and would look after those that suffer.
He also said that the only unforgivable sin was the denial of God and of his Son's ultimate sacrifice to free all our souls of the burden of sin.
You can take it as you like, but I would rather choose the path of not judging in this case. I also seem to remember a phrase beginning, "Judge not, ....."
:)
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Thats sad. Aside from the homosexuality, I thought he did a good job of portraying the modern cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain".
I thought they were sheepherders...
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Well if you believe in Heaven, then youbelieve in the bible.... suicides do not go to heaven.
You can hold on to your beliefs all you want, but if you've had a loved that one that took there own life I guarantee you would not say that.
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Yeah, but they weren't shepherds. They were cowboys.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I asked that question of the priest at our church one time. He replied that while suicide was indeed a sin, although it was not unforgivable. He further explained that people who commit suicide were sick and that when the Lord said that, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." He was not only mentioning those that are not only gentle, patient, and humble but also those that were long suffering. That the Lord has great love for all his creations and would look after those that suffer.
He also said that the only unforgivable sin was the denial of God and of his Son's ultimate sacrifice to free all our souls of the burden of sin.
You can take it as you like, but I would rather choose the path of not judging in this case. I also seem to remember a phrase beginning, "Judge not, ....."
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Very well said Bohdi.
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Originally posted by Shifty
Very well said Bohdi.
Agreed. Well Said.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Yeah, but they weren't shepherds. They were cowboys.
Shepherds tend sheep
Cowboys tend cows.
Doesn't matter what hat you wear.
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See Rule #5
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Originally posted by Nefarious
You can hold on to your beliefs all you want, but if you've had a loved that one that took there own life I guarantee you would not say that.
So you must only hold to your beliefs until they are inconvenient? Then they are not beliefs at all, or you are weak.
My brother committed suicide my freshman year in college. Your gaurantee lasted about as long as your beliefs would.
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Shepherds wear robes and carry a long hooked staff.
Cowboys wear denim, ride horses, wear cowboy boots, carry a revolver or a rifle, and ride in rodeos. Its not so much an occupation as it is a style. People even refer to the movie as "the gay cowboy movie", not the "gay shepherd movie".
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I asked that question of the priest at our church one time. He replied that while suicide was indeed a sin, although it was not unforgivable. not, ....."
:)
I'm glad you got an answer that put you at peace and from a source you consider to be an authority.
I do not mean to offend you, but your priest is not an authority for me.
I believe that your priest's answer is a convenient one for those who do not wish to see their loved ones in any place but heaven. I'm not trying to change your mind or belittle your priest in any way, I simply believe differently.
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Originally posted by rpm
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I really hope it turns out to be an accidental overdose. I always liked his work. I read somewhere he just finished his part as The Joker in the next Batman installment.
Lots of people consider "greater than none" to be an overdose, depending on the drug in question... What kind of drug overdose was it? OTC? Prescription? Illegal? Mixture of more than one?
Regardless of whatever else they did in life, I can't help but think "loser" when I hear about people dying from drug overdoses or otherwise throwing their life away through drug abuse. It'll suck if this was a "true" accident, but I wouldn't put any money on that possibility.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
My brother committed suicide my freshman year in college. Your gaurantee lasted about as long as your beliefs would.
As did my mother. While I was in College.
Could you look him in the eyes as you pass through the gates of St Peter? What about your kids? I could not continue knowing I never will see my mother again.
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Originally posted by Nefarious
As did my mother.
Could you look him in the eyes as you pass through the gates of St Peter? What about your kids? I could not continue knowing I never will see my mother again.
I hope my beliefs are wrong.. moreso for my parents and my brother than myself.
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People fought range wars over style?
shepherd... sheep herd ... sheep
Cowboy ... Cows ....
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
a long hooked staff.
= crook
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
People fought range wars over style?
shepherd... sheep herd ... sheep
Cowboy ... Cows ....
don't forget them thar sodbusters that want to fence in the free range.
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I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24)
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oh dear. here we go again.
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One, Two, Three, Four!
I declare a Holy War!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
IN!
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Originally posted by Saxman
One, Two, Three, Four!
I declare a Holy War!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
IN!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
INdeed!
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Originally posted by Saxman
One, Two, Three, Four!
I declare a Holy War!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
IN!
Not from me. I respect others beliefs and do not try to impress mine upon others.
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Hey...At least I'm not singing about homosexual relationships in hell.
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Don't make me stop this car!
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Originally posted by Saxman
One, Two, Three, Four!
I declare a Holy War!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
IN!
:rofl bullseye Sax
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Don't make me stop this car!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Don't make me stop this car!
Methinks the brake lines were cut long ago...
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I had to look him up to see who he was...
other than the upcoming Batman movie, I never heard of him, much less seen anything he's been in.
2 page post for this, almost nothing for Mrs. Pleshette whom I'd have thought a few years ago at least more in here would "connect" with
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224572
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Besides the Gay cowboy movie (which I will never see), he's actually a good actor.
I wouldn't recommend going out of your way, but if you get a chance, see '10 Things I hate About You.'
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...meanwhile, close to 30 U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq during this month alone.
I'm fresh outta rat's tulips when it comes to rich twenty-somethings that can't cope with life.
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Originally posted by Sandman
...meanwhile, close to 30 U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq during this month alone.
I'm fresh outta rat's tulips when it comes to rich twenty-somethings that can't cope with life.
down from 120 a month last summer.
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My first thought upon reading this in the paper... "damn, I sure hope they're done filming the new Batman movie."
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did they?
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IMDB says it's in post-production, so I'm guessing yeah.
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phew. previews looked like he was doing one helluva job on it.
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Originally posted by Sandman
...meanwhile, close to 30 U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq during this month alone.
I'm fresh outta rat's tulips when it comes to rich twenty-somethings that can't cope with life.
LOL, well said!
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its chilly on brokeback mountain, he should wore a jacket cause he caught teh AIDS.
What I mean to say is if he is gonna suicide. He was a little girl about it, they pop pills. At least Cobain was man enough to paint his ceiling
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the bbc report i read said he OD'd on a number of prescription and non-prescription medicinal pills he was mixing. he was apparently having troubling sleeping and was under a lot of stress after filming batman so was on sleeping pills and anti-depressants or something.
apparently very little evidence it was suicide.
bit much to jump to conclusions and insult someone who died at a tragically young age guys, especially someone as talented as him (despite what some may think of brokeback mountain etc, he was an incredible actor, especially for someone his age.)
i'm looking forward to the new batman film, ledger looked like a really interesting character.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
bit much to jump to conclusions and insult someone who died at a tragically young age guys,
who was doing that?
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See Rule #4 (you are one post away from being banned)
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Originally posted by cav58d
See Rule #4
Thats quite a catchy tune I was humming it on the way to the fridge for another beer.
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nah, come on pooh and steve, you guys were pretty quick to jump the gun and see it as a suicide, and then started being pretty disrespectful.
no reason to see it as suicide at the moment, just an accidental legal drug overdose, which sucks as i was looking forward to seeing him in more movies, he'd come a long way since the uber cheese of a knights tale lol.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
nah, come on pooh and steve, you guys were pretty quick to jump the gun and see it as a suicide, and then started being pretty disrespectful.
no reason to see it as suicide at the moment, just an accidental legal drug overdose, which sucks as i was looking forward to seeing him in more movies, he'd come a long way since the uber cheese of a knights tale lol.
umm isn't that an everyday form of suicide?
raise your hands if you don't know too many sleeping pills, alone or mixed can cause sudden death?
I think most of the American world learned that back with Mon
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well, if he had a lot of trouble sleeping, it makes sense that he might try taking a few more to help. that mixed with the other medication they found at his house that he may have been taking, you know, mixing these things is unpredictable, it's a real shame.
post mortem will reveal what happened hopefully.
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Another actor melts down on drugs. The gene pool just got a little bit cleaner.
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some of you guys are being twits. Ledger was not one of the bad guys of Hollywood. He had talent and soul that showed through the camera like few other young actors these days. This looks like a accidental death of a 28 year man, cut the guy some slack.
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On the IMDB there was threads asking whether god punished him for acting gay!...the twits here are only minor fools compared to the tards there
Good actor, he was excellent in most of his films including Brokeback Mountain...his turn as the Joker looks awesome
Tronsky
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See Rule #4
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
nah, come on pooh and steve, you guys were pretty quick to jump the gun and see it as a suicide, and then started being pretty disrespectful.
Biggles, I said:
if it was a suicide.......IF
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He had pneumonia.
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Originally posted by rpm
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I really hope it turns out to be an accidental overdose. I always liked his work. I read somewhere he just finished his part as The Joker in the next Batman installment.
True he rented the apt. from her
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Originally posted by moot
He had pneumonia.
yup, and was on medication for that too. real shame :(
Originally posted by maverick
Another actor melts down on drugs. The gene pool just got a little bit cleaner.
nah man, it seems like an accidental overdose on medication and other non-prescription medicinal pills. he wasn't a coke snorting wasteman like a lot of them, he was a good guy, a father, a great actor and died way too young in a tragic accident, show him some respect man...
badmouthing a dead guy is pretty low, especially if it's not deserved at all.
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some peoples systems aren't tough enough to do drugs.
lazs
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I've heard of him... no idea who he is..... never seen him in a movie.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I asked that question of the priest at our church one time. He replied that while suicide was indeed a sin, although it was not unforgivable. He further explained that people who commit suicide were sick and that when the Lord said that, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." He was not only mentioning those that are not only gentle, patient, and humble but also those that were long suffering. That the Lord has great love for all his creations and would look after those that suffer.
He also said that the only unforgivable sin was the denial of God and of his Son's ultimate sacrifice to free all our souls of the burden of sin.
You can take it as you like, but I would rather choose the path of not judging in this case. I also seem to remember a phrase beginning, "Judge not, ....."
:)
sir and well said. Most people who do commit suicide are truly very troubled and don't get the help they need. People here almost immediately began stating how much of a "loser" or dumb person he was without knowing the facts. Lets you see a bit into their sick worlds and lack of compassion.
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demonizing suicide is not entirely heartless.. it probly does save some lives.
Glamorizing it is much worse.
compare the two.
So which is more "compassionate" ?
lazs
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When did I glamorize suicide?
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I'm not surprised. Check out all the twitching and scratching going on in this interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKa-aDga1fE&eurl
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bong... feeling sorry for suicide and "understanding" it may make it easier for someone watching to want to be felt sorry for.
lazs
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Curt and Heath, sitting in a tree.
B-U-R-N-I-N-G
First comes Woe,
Then comes sorrow.
Get used to it boys,
it's the same tomorrow.
Im sorry but that is funny.:rofl
edit: I feel sadness for his little girl who now has no father.
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Originally posted by lazs2
bong... feeling sorry for suicide and "understanding" it may make it easier for someone watching to want to be felt sorry for.
lazs
and here's mine that you were responding to
Originally posted by Bongaroo sir and well said. Most people who do commit suicide are truly very troubled and don't get the help they need. People here almost immediately began stating how much of a "loser" or dumb person he was without knowing the facts. Lets you see a bit into their sick worlds and lack of compassion.
I stated that Bodhi made a very well thought out and delivered statement. Further that many people who commit suicide are in need of help and that they don't recieve it.
Here, I'll elaborate on the last part. When people say things like this:
What I mean to say is if he is gonna suicide. He was a little girl about it, they pop pills. At least Cobain was man enough to paint his ceiling
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Another actor melts down on drugs. The gene pool just got a little bit cleaner.
It really makes me wonder if they would be any help to a friend of theirs in need. These people don't need your ridicule, not in death and not when they are in need. They need love and compassion, you know, the stuff that Jesus taught us to give selflessly?
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Originally posted by john9001
down from 120 a month last summer.
Not the point.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
[ he wasn't a coke snorting wasteman like a lot of them, he was a good guy, a father, a great actor and died way too young in a tragic accident, show him some respect man...
badmouthing a dead guy is pretty low, especially if it's not deserved at all. [/B]
Ummm actually there has been much discussion of his drug use. So ya, it seems he was a "coke snorting waste man". While I feel bad for his family, I don't have so much sympathy for him. Billions of people have to deal with stress and anxiety and get by just fine with out anti-depressants and sleepign pills. This guy made very definite and unwise life choices that led to his death. His death may indeed by ruled accidental, but it wasn't in a sense. Just like every other drug overdoes isn't really an accident.
You and a couple other people in this thread want to make yourselves feel holier-than-thou by belittling others that aren't wailing and gnashing their teeth in horror over the drug overdose death of another spolied human who did little more than entertain some people.
He didn't cure the common cold or cancer. He made movies and millions upon millions of dollars in the process. In spite of his fame and huge wealth, he turned to drug use to cope with... stress. Gimme a break.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Ummm actually there has been much discussion of his drug use. So ya, it seems he was a "coke snorting waste man". While I feel bad for his family, I don't have so much sympathy for him. Billions of people have to deal with stress and anxiety and get by just fine with out anti-depressants and sleepign pills. This guy made very definite and unwise life choices that led to his death. His death may indeed by ruled accidental, but it wasn't in a sense. Just like every other drug overdoes isn't really an accident.
You and a couple other people in this thread want to make yourselves feel holier-than-thou by belittling others that aren't wailing and gnashing their teeth in horror over the drug overdose death of another spolied human who did little more than entertain some people.
He didn't cure the common cold or cancer. He made movies and millions upon millions of dollars in the process. In spite of his fame and huge wealth, he turned to drug use to cope with... stress. Gimme a break.
I am definitely not holier-than-thou. Read through some of my posts in the past and you definitely can see that. My post regarding people who commit suicide being very sick was meant to point out just that. People who commit suicide definitely are very sick individuals. God has said through the bible that he will look after the sick. Therefore, it seems logical to accept that a suicide is not going to "burn for eternity", instead being accepted with open arms by the Lord.
As for Mr. Ledger, I have no knowledge of what he died of, just that he died. As usual, the newsies are busy filling the waves with any tidbit of info they can find whether it be fact or fiction. Nothing new there. Some may rush to say he died of this or that, but in reality we are not aware of the facts. Not that it matters as he has still passed, but I prefer to wait to be sure of what he died of.
I believe that it is tragic to see a well known and talented individual die just as much as I believe it is tragic when anyone else who "dies before their time" or atleast as we see it being before their time. Life is stressful everyday. Unfortunately some people are not equipped to handle this because they are very sick psychologically. Whether they be famous or not, they are still sick, and sick people deserve our passion and concern. Being in the spot light is probably just as difficult (in ways) as not, in that some one is always trying to make a buck off you. Look at Brittany Spears and the new Celebrity Rehab for examples.
In the end it does not matter whether one is a celebrity or an ordinary joe. The only worry for the deceased will be whether they are accepted into heaven or not. The only differences that we see are whether the deceased is mentioned on the front page or the obituaries.
:)
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Attacking suicide and people who've killed themselves is not going to do a damn thing towards convincing other people not to take that step. Rather, you're FAR more likely to make someone with suicidal tendencies think there's something even more seriously wrong with themselves and NOT get the help they need. That's one reason people contemplating taking their own lives often DON'T come forward for help already: They're afraid of being judged for it.
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steve, i wasn't totally aware of his heroin use. apparently he'd been battling it for a while, but he was trying (and i think HAD) been off the stuff for a while.
he was a good actor, and i'm just saying it sucks to lose someone with a lot of talent. i was really looking forward to seeing him in batman, it looks from the trailers like he's really developed a great but disturbing character.
from what i heard his trouble sleeping may have stemmed from the character. he locked himself away ina hotel room for a month developing the traits and mannerisms of a psychopath. when you act well, and you put all your soul into a character like him, it's easy to see why it took a toll on him mentally. i doubt it was suicide, but he was on a lot of anti-depressants and various sleeping pills and antihistamines.
i would like to see the autopsy report before i draw any solid conclusion, but even if it was suicide by a herion overdose, i'd still repect the guy.
i don't see how you can call him a spoilt human being just for being successful and talented. i for one will mourn his passing, he was a promising young actor, but even if you don't, i'm not someone who looks very highly on belittling the dead, even if they did have issues.
there's no reason to assume this is anything other than an accidental death due to totally legal pills he was taking after performing as a very dark and disturbed character. show some respect for the guy, even if you didn't like him or his films (he was a nice guy and some of his films we really good, so why you'd dislike him i dunno).
so RIP heath, was looking forward to more of your work.
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Originally posted by JB88
"i ain't quittin yewwwwwwwww aquashrimp."
- heath.
Makes a nice caption, ehhh?
;)
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sandie... you may be right..
I just think it is both trajic and extremely stupid. I don't think you can say one without the other.
lazs
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Originally posted by Sandman
...meanwhile, close to 30 U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq during this month alone.
I'm fresh outta rat's tulips when it comes to rich twenty-somethings that can't cope with life.
Another great point.
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Seems Heath died as a result of alcoholic poisoning... he must have swallowed one too many cowboys!:t
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Originally posted by Bodhi
I am definitely not holier-than-thou. :)
Bodhi, my comment was not directed at you.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
steve, i wasn't totally aware of his heroin use. apparently he'd been battling it for a while, but he was trying (and i think HAD) been off the stuff for a while.
he was a good actor, and i'm just saying it sucks to lose someone with a lot of talent. rk.
I enjoyed many of his movies: The Patriot, 10 things I hate about you, A Knight's Tale. I could have done without watching any part of Casanova, though. :)
Bigs, I just don't place any more value on his life because he was talented.
I don't dislike the guy but consider this: he was a person with enough money to buy anything he wanted. He was famous, rich and adored.
Can we agree he had more going for him in this world than say... almost 100% of the general population?
He couldn't cope with life like a big boy so he turned to numerous narcotic drugs, often using more than one at the same time. He made conscious decisions to put his health at risk, opting to escape reality with dangerous drugs when he had a responsibility to stay alive and sober(his daughter). I find his behavior to be selfish and irresponsible. As a result, I feel little sympathy for him. I feel bad that his daughter has to grow up w/out a dad... and for no good reason.
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Originally posted by SD67
Seems Heath died as a result of alcoholic poisoning... he must have swallowed one too many cowboys!:t
Do you have a credible source? A quick search turned up nothing for me.
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clue rake needed on aisle 5!
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Originally posted by 007Rusty
True he rented the apt. from her
I repeat FALSE.
link (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20173398,00.html)
link (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/entertainment&id=5909077)
Police added that they did not suspect foul play. Initial reports claimed actress Mary-Kate Olsen owned the apartment Ledger was found in, but police denied that the residence was Olsen's. A police source later said the maid or the housekeeper called Olsen and her security team responded to the apartment on Broome Street.
Olsen also released a statement thru her publicist that she did not own the apartment.
If you have some different info then by all means post a link.
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I thought he was pretty good in the patriot, and from the previews it looks like he did a good job as a joker.
I'm sure his wife or people close knew he was on a couple prescription pills for depression, which alone could kill him.
To me it sounds like he just liked to get f-d up, and he took it one step to far like so many people do daily.
In fact i bet he was wacked out of his mind when they were filming batman. He probably didn't have to really act to much to play a nutjob.
To bad no one he knew intervened when they could. Instead, everyone is going to say how shocked and upset they are, instead of doing something when they could.
I don't feel bad, he was a grown man, with millions of dollars, a wife and daughter, and he dug his own grave because he had a weak will and weak friends.
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RPM, you sure seem to have an unhealthy obsession with the Olsens.
Or are they eighteen now?
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Originally posted by rpm
I repeat FALSE.
link (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20173398,00.html)
link (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/entertainment&id=5909077)
Olsen also released a statement thru her publicist that she did not own the apartment.
If you have some different info then by all means post a link.
i was wrong was going by what was on the news thay keep changing there story..
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Originally posted by Yknurd
RPM, you sure seem to have an unhealthy obsession with the Olsens.
Or are they eighteen now?
Hey, they are both legal. Play ball!;)
I actually could'nt give a poot about them, just hate seeing misinformation.
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I still don't know who the hell he was, nor have I seen him act.
That's a good thing in my book. :aok Less hollyweird=more common sense! :cool: