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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BlueJ1 on January 22, 2008, 09:46:20 PM
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...in 4 years. Upon my Honorable Discharge from the Navy in less then 4 years I will be searching for a new job. Ive been looking on monster and other job websites for a job that would fit my field. Sadly there are very few or due to my age I do not know the right way to look. I know its early yet and a good deal can change in 4 years, but I like to plan ahead for my future. So anyone here, being a aviation (of sorts) community I figured would increase my odds.
I am a Aviation Electrician. Meaning I fix the wiring and electrical systems on aircraft. I will also soon be attending a school for fiber optics which is the future of our systems. I will also be trained in repair and troubleshooting of the computers themselves on the aircraft. The computer part of the aircraft is another rate, Aviation Technician, but My rate and that rate share a shop and jobs. So both rates cross train each other to spread out the workload and benefit our education. I am also training the the rate of Aviation Ordnance, mostly CADs (Cartridge Activated Devices). More aircraft specific I am trained to work and fix the MH-60S Knighthawk and the MH-60R Seahawk. Both of the aircraft are the newest helicopters introduced to the Navy and will be replacing almost all other versions of helicopters we utilize.
Anyone with a tip on where to start looking or a company will be very much appreciated.
Thank you kindly ahead of time.
Blue
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Get your A&P, and you can apply just about anywhere. Hell, go troubleshoot engines for GE.
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Get your A&P, and you can apply just about anywhere. Hell, go troubleshoot engines for GE.
Dumb question. What does A&P stand for? I got military acronyms down, its the real life ones that give me trouble. :D
Thankyou.
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Airframe & Powerplant...I think.
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Civilian name for it would be an Airframe and Powerplant mechanics license.
You can test out for it with equivalent military experience when you are released to the world, but make sure your MOS says Aircraft Maintenance, etc.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Airframe & Powerplant...I think.
Wolfala answered this part. Thankyou.
I dont blame the Navy for not educating us on jobs when we get out and what we'll need. It keeps those of us who joined in our teens in because we're lost when it comes to adapting to real life. Might just be me tho.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Dumb question. What does A&P stand for? I got military acronyms down, its the real life ones that give me trouble. :D
Thankyou.
airframe and power plant, they are two separate certifications.
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Already thinking about getting out? This time last year you sounded like a career guy.
Thats okay, after 14 years I'm calling it quits myself. Navy's just not what it used to be.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Already thinking about getting out? This time last year you sounded like a career guy.
Thats okay, after 14 years I'm calling it quits myself. Navy's just not what it used to be.
Its not what I signed up for. Im aching to actually DO something. I joined to protect my friends and family. So far Ive been in alittle over a year now and Ive done nothing but sit on my arse. The first 8 months of my life after boot I sat around waiting for one school and then another. Miss my E-4 exam by a fraction of a point. I figure now Im finally in my job and the fleet of sorts, shore duty for 2 years :rolleyes: , and I'll really learn my job and whats what. No longer then 2 months at my squadron they send me TAD to the barracks for at least 4 months. The same old bs I was doing waiting for school. Ive heard it everytime I say I want to go to the real fleet, that Im lucky Im shore duty and will be wishing I was back there. But really, I dont. Over 3 years of my 5 year contract I'll be stateside. Now Im within driving distance of my home in NY on a weekend. I feel like Im screwing over the people of the U.S. and my family. I put a package in last month to go IA to Iraq or Afghanistan. It was turned down because I was "needed" to go TAD to the barracks.
But like I said, alot can change in 4 years. Im still young and dumb. Tomorrow I may want to stay in the rest of my life as a E-3. :D
ASTAC, are you active? If you dont me asking.
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https://jobs.boeing.com/JobSeeker/JobSearch?visited=true
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I feel what you're going through Blue. That was exactly me 22 years ago. I signed up in the ET "A" program, signed on for a 6 year contract and then started 2 years of BEE, A, and C schools. I never made it past BEE. After 9 months I was going stir crazy and voluntarily dropped out of school to go to the fleet undesignated. I got really lucky though. I spent exactly 10 hours in deck department before I got recruited to go to the cargo division.
Hang in there. It goes by MUCH faster than you think. It only seems like yesterday I was leaving the quarterdeck in Naples, Italy to process out. But it was 17 and half years ago.
I did go back in the Navy in an active reserve status after 9/11 and the first 3 years of that were a lot of fun. We worked hard and did our jobs and were left alone for the most part, very minimal mickey mouse BS. The last 3 years sucked as everything was micro-managed and went to hell in a handbasket. When my contract was up last September I chose not to re-up. My Chief's were like "Wagner, you're not re-upping??!?!?!??!" I said hell no, not now, not ever. Navy has definitely gotten worse since I was active duty.
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Rip,
If I told you how many jobs I applied to at Boeing, (Its over 50 by now) you would **** yourself. Haven't heard a damn thing back from any one of them.
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Yeah...14 Years in so far. almost 11 of that is sea duty. E-6 with no hopes of ever making Chief (I run my mouth too much these days)
I think what has really done me in is the year turn around between deployments. I don't mind that so much, but when they fill up that year with a bunch of misc. underway time, a 3 month yard period(when the ship needs 6), then expect the ship to meet all our deployment certifications compressed into a few weeks which leaves no room for any mistakes. The pace is getting crazy.
with so much money going into new shipbuilding programs and the war on terror, we can't get much needed repairs. The ship was designed for a 15 year service life and we are going on 30. This thing leaks like crazy. The paint is quite literally keeping the water out. Add to that the constant threat of an IA hanging over your head (which not really a problem, but quite disruptive if you are not a volunteer).
Granted I know that the army and marines have it much worse having to actually be in Iraq all the time, but most of them live for that stuff. My ship is stuck doing counter narcotics a useless job in the big scheme of things, so I guess you can add that it feels like our mission isn't important.no matter how much you capture since for every ton we get 100 tons gets through.
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Thankyou guys. I appreciate it. Nice to know its not just me as a booter thats seeing something wrong these days. The soon to come downsizing our higher ups keep threatening us with are not helping my enthusiasm very much. Seems to me all the older guys I like are getting out now before its to late leaving us booters with the left overs. My LPO ,SH1, for instance...but he's another story.
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Well, at least you aren't in the position I was in at your age. The girl I dated all through high school had promised to be with me through my Navy times and get married after I got out was actually out whoring herself to any guy with a heartbeat while I was proudly serving and protecting her right to be as much of a slut and a ***potato as she wanted to be.
Not that I am bitter about it.
:D
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Well, at least you aren't in the position I was in at your age. The girl I dated all through high school had promised to be with me through my Navy times and get married after I got out was actually out whoring herself to any guy with a heartbeat while I was proudly serving and protecting her right to be as much of a slut and a ***potato as she wanted to be.
Not that I am bitter about it.
:D
Young and dumb myself. Engaged going into boot. Phone call home after battle stations I call her, my only call home the whole time. Turns out she found someone new a month before and pawned, not pwned, my ring and bout a jet ski. I got pwned. Lesson learned. And I have a jet ski for the taking, just need a good alibi. :D
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Well, yeah, I was actually saving my money back then for a new Trans Am. I had a feeling about her so I didn't want to spend money on something I knew I wouldn't ever get back. Oh yeah, I meant to put 'guzzling' between *** and potato.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Well, yeah, I was actually saving my money back then for a new Trans Am. I had a feeling about her so I didn't want to spend money on something I knew I wouldn't ever get back. Oh yeah, I meant to put 'guzzling' between *** and potato.
Was she in the Navy to? Seems like they all fit that description now. (That was a joke, funny ha ha knee slapper, for anyone that has a navy wife, daughter, or what not. If you were in the Navy you'd understand.)
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No, she wasn't. But after my experience in the Navy she would have fit in nicely. Especially being 5'4" and 36DD.
:noid
I now return you to your thread about looking for a job.
;)
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Made E5 in 3 Years, E6 in 6 Years and E7 in 9 Years. MOS 05F at Gordon, ABN Jump School at Benning, 82nd ABN Recon Course at Bragg, Jungle Ops Training Course Panama, CZ, Airload, Sea and Rail Movements Course at Bragg, Defense packaging of Haz Mat at Bragg, Completed Instructors Course Ft Gordon. Honor Grad at my ANOC..Ft. Gordon. Graduated Tactical Comms Cheif Course and COMSEC Custodian Course at Badd Toltz, FRG. Then Counter Intelligence in Combatting Terrorism. All under 12 Years.
By about the 17th Year I had I pisssed off people. People that deserved to be pisssed off. Mostly REMFs, West Point Ring Knockers and Overweight Lesbian SGMs that thought they were the Cream of the NCO Corps. Stuck it out to my 20.
I retired in Jan 95 from Huachuaca taking 90 Days of Terminal Leave. Drove by the Ceremony they were having on the Parade Field...I honked them Good~Bye...
No regrets for the most part. Was disturbing to see an old friend who was busted twice before, has hearing aides in both ears and a CAT 4 profile on his back and legs *non Airbourne Soldier...LEG* make the E8 list.
Oh well did my 20 Years. 1975~1995. Joined at 17, Retired at 37.
Civilian Life is duh suxxor!!
Mac
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Originally posted by Wolfala
Rip,
If I told you how many jobs I applied to at Boeing, (Its over 50 by now) you would **** yourself. Haven't heard a damn thing back from any one of them.
Timing is everything, and of course the position you apply for. With the 787 running behind schedule, I think I'd be flooding Boeing right now with applications for ANY job they have open. Once you get your foot in the door, then you can move around. Take a janitor job if you have to....
I wish you good luck. Rule #5--Never quit!
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
But like I said, alot can change in 4 years. Im still young and dumb. Tomorrow I may want to stay in the rest of my life as a E-3. :D
Doh! My squadron called me today to come in. I go in expecting a drug test or some thing along the lines of paper work. Find out they are pulling me back from the barracks for a few days then sending me TAD to ASF school. (Auxiliary Security Force) Then I'll be working as base police for awhile. Im very happy they did move me. Talking to my supervisor he said he didnt want to screw me over in the first place and send me to the barracks, he was following orders. He also said he followed his orders, and is now sending me where I want to go. Im very excited I wont be working as a janitor anymore. Get to qual on the M16 and pistol range. Also get OC sprayed, not looking forward to that. I remember going into a tear gas chamber back in the day when I was a sea cadet. I had fluids coming out of my face from every hole. I cant wait. I guess sometimes it does pay off to work hard. :aok
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That's good news. Also bear in mind that 99.9% of our unit recalls over the last 5 years were to support the security force. Which means they got recalled back to active duty to stand gate guard duty or work at a customs check point. None have been what would be called "in rate work". BUT, having said that, make the most of the opportunity as it seems you will.
Ain't it a shame that the Navy doesn't require small arms quals in bootcamp? Ridiculous...
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
That's good news. Also bear in mind that 99.9% of our unit recalls over the last 5 years were to support the security force. Which means they got recalled back to active duty to stand gate guard duty or work at a customs check point. None have been what would be called "in rate work". BUT, having said that, make the most of the opportunity as it seems you will.
Ain't it a shame that the Navy doesn't require small arms quals in bootcamp? Ridiculous...
It is sad its not required. Ive shot both the M16 and a pistol before. I was so tired when I shot the pistol in great lakes I did poorly. Only receiving a marksmen. I hope to get expert this time around.
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Look at AAR in either OKC or Hot Springs, Arkansas (I work there) They will probably still be short handed and have a program in place for OJT to get your licenses and may even pay for part or all of the tests. Plus its experience on modern regional jet aircraft that should suit your field quite well (Bombardier CRJ..I hate 'em personally, but I am a turboprop guy).
If you dont mind living in the area, these are worth looking at for an entry level job. Many use it as a springboard to better places. BTW, if you come to AAR, tell 'em I sent ya.....I want my $500 bonus ;)
have a look at aarcorp.com dang they got a lot of places I didn't know about!
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It would be back in a govt job, but check out usajobs.com.
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Smut (CJ Martin) used to play AH a lot... He was navy, electronics type, forbidden by official edict to make coffee while his ship was underway, and when he got out he went to work on the F-18 program on the civvy side. He got out to work on Janes F-15 and Janes F-18, and then went back to Boeing to work on the superhornet program.
Based on his experience (navy puke who couldn't be trusted to make coffee :) ), consider trying Boeing.
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BlueJ1 I see your here in the Norfolk area now. You would be surprised about how many Navy guys I know who are in the same boat as you. Not satisfied with their job / choice of career.
If your wanting to serve in the military, work aviation, and actually DO something everyday that serves your country and people in general you should take a look at the Coast Guard. We fly the HH-60 Jay Hawk so your already trained and you would end up on a flight crew. SAR missions, counter narcotics missions, medivac. You'd be VERY suprised at how many prior service folks come into the Coast Guard and end up making a 20+ year career out of it.
Anytime you want to talk, meet up for a beer or something PM me and I'd be happy to talk to you about my experiance with the Guard. I can also get you in touch with the right people in this area if you decide that's a route your looking to pursue.
I assume your stationed over at NOB. I live about 10-15 minutes away from there and maybe 20 minutes from NAS Oceana.
Anyway the invitation is there.
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If you want to be a cop, try the California Highway Patrol. They have the hands-down best retirement pension in the country. Every CA governor in the last couple decades has been trying to get their fingers into that pot, but the CHP has some good lawyers :)
The CHP has some attractive military to CHP options. Yea the CHP academy is like 10 months long, but the pay is pretty good and after you get some seniority, you can often get transferred pretty much anywhere in the state you want. Gotta do your time in LA or El Centro first, but after a couple years your options open up.
My Dad was career CHP and my brother is CHP now. It has it's downsides of course (once in a while they get shot) but they have a fairly good reputation and they don't get shot at too often.
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Originally posted by eagl
If you want to be a cop, try the California Highway Patrol. They have the hands-down best retirement pension in the country. Every CA governor in the last couple decades has been trying to get their fingers into that pot, but the CHP has some good lawyers :)
The CHP has some attractive military to CHP options. Yea the CHP academy is like 10 months long, but the pay is pretty good and after you get some seniority, you can often get transferred pretty much anywhere in the state you want. Gotta do your time in LA or El Centro first, but after a couple years your options open up.
My Dad was career CHP and my brother is CHP now. It has it's downsides of course (once in a while they get shot) but they have a fairly good reputation and they don't get shot at too often.
Oh man, I bet they got some good play in the late '70's!
CHiP's I mean, not necessarily your dad.
;)
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Thanks for the advice Eagl. But I have to turn down anything that has to do with Cali. the only time I'll go back is for vacation.
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Hornet, thank you very much. I thought about the Coast Guard when I was younger. Its a definite possibility. Im only hesitant because it sounds to good to be true, just like when I joined the Navy. I wonder what conversion would be like for Navy to Coast Guard. I know Army to Navy has some good deals.
I would take you up on the offer for a beer but Im only 20 as of December. But I'll be here for another 2 years at least. So when next December rolls around I'll buy you one. :aok
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Thanks for the advice Eagl. But I have to turn down anything that has to do with Cali. the only time I'll go back is for vacation.
Too many parking tickets eh? :)
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None of those. Luckily.
Cali people dont take kindly to people from NY. And I didnt take kindly to them after about a dozen times for being called out on it. From my experience people out there are more stuck up then east coast. Oh well, its their opinion, their allowed it, and Im allowed mine.
Oh yea, its EXPENSIVE too.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Yeah...14 Years in so far. almost 11 of that is sea duty. E-6 with no hopes of ever making Chief (I run my mouth too much these days)
I think what has really done me in is the year turn around between deployments. I don't mind that so much, but when they fill up that year with a bunch of misc. underway time, a 3 month yard period(when the ship needs 6), then expect the ship to meet all our deployment certifications compressed into a few weeks which leaves no room for any mistakes. The pace is getting crazy.
with so much money going into new shipbuilding programs and the war on terror, we can't get much needed repairs. The ship was designed for a 15 year service life and we are going on 30. This thing leaks like crazy. The paint is quite literally keeping the water out. Add to that the constant threat of an IA hanging over your head (which not really a problem, but quite disruptive if you are not a volunteer).
Granted I know that the army and marines have it much worse having to actually be in Iraq all the time, but most of them live for that stuff. My ship is stuck doing counter narcotics a useless job in the big scheme of things, so I guess you can add that it feels like our mission isn't important.no matter how much you capture since for every ton we get 100 tons gets through.
Sea time sucks. It's why I got out after 10.