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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bustr on January 22, 2008, 10:37:18 PM
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Can any of the bombers in the game be furballed with drones enabled to evade a fighter at close range and have the drones regroup after the violent manuvering is finished? Do any of our bombers have a know bug that allows this?
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Yes. You can't maneuver as wildly as you might in a fighter, but some are capable of maneuvers that would do the Blue Angels or T-Birds proud.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Yes. You can't maneuver as wildly as you might in a fighter, but some are capable of maneuvers that would do the Blue Angels or T-Birds proud.
And keep the drones? Think he is asking if they can do this and not lose the drones. I've seen some squirrelly stuff by bombers, but they have always been single plane, not a formation.
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I've seen formations loop, lead buffs barrel roll, all while keeping the drones. It's part of the reason I'm opposed to drones.
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My favorite was watching a set of Lancs split-s and keep all three drones. Wish I had film of it.
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I find it comical when the drones are pulling away from the lead plane then they start to warp in incriments laterally to get back into perfect formation.
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So some of you have also furballed with say a Ju88 with drones and the Ju88 performed violent manuvers, rolls, dives, tight scissors to shake your aim while the drones kinda popped in and out of view trying to get back to the primary bomber?
Is this a bug HiTech should address?
Off line are their arena settings for the strength or weakness of how strongly or weakly drones will stick to their primary bomber through manuvers?
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P38 does pretty well as a furballer, no drones though.
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Bombers in furballs generally dont last long. Even the most maneuverable one isn't close to being as manueverable as a fighter. Nor are they as fast, nor can they climb as well, nor do they hold together as well on violent dives. If there was one bomber I'd try it with it would be the KI-67 but even they get chewed up pretty good if you keep spinning around a furball.
That said hitting your rudders hard and bouncing your drones around is actually an effective tool on occasion as it can confuse an attacker.
But, Im no expert in such flying, Lanc stuka'ing....ect. I fly bombers in Historically correct fashion.
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I killed 19 B-24s last night in a bomber. In one flight with 4 hot pads.
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Originally posted by bustr
So some of you have also furballed with say a Ju88 with drones and the Ju88 performed violent manuvers, rolls, dives, tight scissors to shake your aim while the drones kinda popped in and out of view trying to get back to the primary bomber?
Against, not in, but yes.
Originally posted by bustr
Is this a bug HiTech should address?
Yes, they need to get rid of bombers, or at the very least, perk drones, and admit openly that bombers are modelled for **** because no one will fly them otherwise. Give them real calibration, change the drones so they don't accelerate beyond their top speed in level flight, un sync the guns, fix the warping of the drones, etc etc.Trying to shoot at a couple of drones, suspended in mid air and fluttering like leaves is pretty difficult.
Originally posted by bustr
Off line are their arena settings for the strength or weakness of how strongly or weakly drones will stick to their primary bomber through manuvers?
I don't think so.
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i always thought the drones should be capable of a lot MORE...
they should be able to keep up in the turns, i find it kind of annoying that they won't.
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There are times I want to ditch my drones to go A2A, or just play around with someone and try to get them to auger fighting me. When I do, I can't get rid of those drones no matter how hard I try! Yet, just turn a little to sharp to make another pass at some hangars and you lose 1 or both of them. :(
JU88 drones are extremely hard to ditch when you want to.
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Thanks for the answers all. Then I'll just soilder on with this great knowlege. I always assumed that the drones would detatch in the face of violent manuvering by the bomber pilot..........:D
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Originally posted by Stoney74
My favorite was watching a set of Lancs split-s and keep all three drones. Wish I had film of it.
I've pulled that off on more than one occasion. You cannot turn in anywhere near as tight and you need to climb a little power off as you come out at the bottom to allow the drones to keep up, but it is doable, not recommended though as I've overstressed them and died many many times attempting it, put it sure puts a fighter jock off when he sees the formation suddenly disappear downwards :lol I figure if I'm going to die I'll make the guy in the plane behind me work for his kills.
I've also chased a P38 around an airfield sitting in the guns using rudders to manoeuvre. You can make tighter turns, but you will need to get back to pick up your drones pretty smartly if you want to keep them.
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In times of desperation (I'm recalling some of Stalin's Fourth, I think, when I flew Boston III's), I would do hard back and forth turns in order to do a Thatch weave sort of thing with my own drones. Turn hard, the drones fall behind, reverse and turn back hard into them while they are turning into you, reverse, repeat.