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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Mister Fork on January 24, 2008, 09:57:50 PM
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I have a film recording (thank-you to the person who submitted it) showing several AvA players attacking an undefended base during low-player numbers in the AvA arena. They even taunt him saying "nobody cares".
Well, WE CARE.
I have your names, and I'll be informing your Commanders that you are disqualified from medals and awards, plus you'll be removed from your respective private forums. As we get a chance to audit the film properly, we'll be adding names to the ban list. I can honestly say, I'm SHOCKED from some of the names I've seen.
Congrats on the stellar gameplay!
:aok
From those who care.
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$20 says it was a piglet. Iv said it once and Ill say it agian those guys have milking down to an art.
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I wouldn't go naming names yet - and no, it wasn't piglet. Though I'm sure the guys will need the $20 to take slash's sister out. Appetizers will cost that much alone.:rofl
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:rofl You are kidding right? You wanted a war and you got it. What did you expect would happen? I only fly buffs in there now. B26 is teh pwn, lol.
So far I have pwned a radar factory and a couple of fields. Oh, yeah, and a couple JG54 that could not get their 190s to out turn a B26 :rofl
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I fail to see a reason to taunt and make "assumptions" on whom it might or might not be. Fork is obviously on top of things and doing a bang up job on spending his own time tweaking and fine tuning the arena to a good standard.
Thanks for the hard work Mr. Fork, Soda, and any others i'm not aware of that might be working on this project with you.
I'll take that $20 bucks though, and pitch in my own loot to buy a nice 15 yr old bottle of scotch. *grins*
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
"nobody cares".
Gee, I wonder who said this. :cool: :cool:
:noid
So you guys going to send me $20 through paypal, or just tack it to her head?
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Originally posted by Larry
$20 says it was a piglet. Iv said it once and Ill say it agian those guys have milking down to an art.
You really should leave the officiating to the admins TK. Naming names and or squads is not right. As one of the two commanders, I would expect more out of you. :mad:
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As a member of Pigs on the Wing, I find your constant accusations very upsetting TrueKill. I know all of my current squadmates are honorable players, and would not resort to such tactics as you consistently accuse us of. If you have proof of anything, show it to me. I know for a fact, one of our squadmembers has a very poor internet connection. Maybe you have interpreted his warpiness due to this as "cable pulling"? I don't know wha tis going through your head, however, I do know none of our squad would resort to such things. We fly, fight, and have fun as a squad, and all I have seen you do is whine and complain about us. perhaps you are just jealous of our teamwork and comradarie? As I said, I do not know, but please, just shut up and drop it.
Thank you
Sol75
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
I have a film recording (thank-you to the person who submitted it) showing several AvA players attacking an undefended base during low-player numbers in the AvA arena. They even taunt him saying "nobody cares".
Well, WE CARE.
I have your names, and I'll be informing your Commanders that you are disqualified from medals and awards, plus you'll be removed from your respective private forums. As we get a chance to audit the film properly, we'll be adding names to the ban list. I can honestly say, I'm SHOCKED from some of the names I've seen.
Congrats on the stellar gameplay!
:aok
From those who care.
So if your the only one on you cant attack a base?
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Well, WE CARE.
From those who care.
I <3 u Fork
:)
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For yoou little piggys. I have seen you milk many many bases the last map. Mainly Vbases but milking is milking and you guys do alot of it, and thats a fact. So :p
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Originally posted by Larry
For yoou little piggys. I have seen you milk many many bases the last map. Mainly Vbases but milking is milking and you guys do alot of it, and thats a fact. So :p
Check your squad scores there larry.
JG54-60 base captures
Pigs on the Wing-57 base captures
If we have to milkrun that hard just to get 2nd in squad ranking, makes me wonder how hard the number 1 ranked (insert JG54) squad milkruns to get first ranking? Things that makes you go hmmmmmm?:rofl :rofl
Oink
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
I have a film recording (thank-you to the person who submitted it) showing several AvA players attacking an undefended base during low-player numbers in the AvA arena. They even taunt him saying "nobody cares".
Well, WE CARE.
I have your names, and I'll be informing your Commanders that you are disqualified from medals and awards, plus you'll be removed from your respective private forums. As we get a chance to audit the film properly, we'll be adding names to the ban list. I can honestly say, I'm SHOCKED from some of the names I've seen.
Congrats on the stellar gameplay!
:aok
From those who care.
Honest question . . . exactly how are you defining "milkrunning?" Are they forced to switch and "even up the sides" to prevent being labeled "milkrunners?" This seems unfair given you have already said people only qualify for medals etc. if they remain with one side throughout the entire campaign.
Is it because the base was undefended? If there were defenders on and they failed to defend the base, how is that the problem of the so-called "milkrunners?" How do you differentiate between "milkrunning" and "running and end-around?"
Perhaps you should post the film to ensure everyone has a clear understanding of exactly how you are defining "milkrunning" and avoid any future such problems.
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Originally posted by waystin2
Check your squad scores there larry.
JG54-60 base captures
Pigs on the Wing-57 base captures
If we have to milkrun that hard just to get 2nd in squad ranking, makes me wonder how hard the number 1 ranked (insert JG54) squad milkruns to get first ranking? Things that makes you go hmmmmmm?:rofl :rofl
Oink
None of this matters, MrFork has the film. We're all going to burn!:D
BTW our squad had four milks, err base captures to our credit. We'd try to catch the rest of you guys, but since we're side switching we get no medals so we gave up on it. BTW what is the medal for most base captures? The Order Of The Golden Utter? ;)
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Originally posted by waystin2
Check your squad scores there larry.
JG54-60 base captures
Pigs on the Wing-57 base captures
If we have to milkrun that hard just to get 2nd in squad ranking, makes me wonder how hard the number 1 ranked (insert JG54) squad milkruns to get first ranking? Things that makes you go hmmmmmm?:rofl :rofl
Oink
Taking bases during prime time with people on (insert JG54) and milking bases when no one else is on (insert piggys) are two different things.
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I think most of us are guilty of it. You enter the arena and the numbers are close. Before long the enemy disappears. Before you lays a map, with bases itching to be taken. Most times the itch is scratched if only because you are there..and they arent.
Now..lets drop it and see whats up with the map we will be using.
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Milking the bases in the old AVA would screw up the map and plane sets up, making the map unplayable. There were no “perkies” in the old AVA. So I have never understood the milking of bases.
The current mini MA, (new setup for AVA? or the next step to the Combat theater)which I really hate, doesn't do this mainly because of the design of the current map.
The momentum swings back and forth, but base running in the off hours when the arena is empty, come on, if you want perkies stay in the MA. JG54 number one ranking in base capture is done in prime time. Just one of us was lucky enough to bring in the last load of troops.
JG54, we don’t pay attention to our scores, or rankings. I couldn’t tell you where I’m ranked or where the others are ranked. We just play the game.
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:rofl Have you ever wondered what the average adult would think if you printed out a thread like this and showed it to them....standing there with a serious look on your face:rofl :rofl
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Mister Fork
Filth
Chapel........
I enjoy the game and this AvA scenario is awesome:)
I play the game to fight with fighters and the odd time I will assist with C47's or Bombers....
Base captures, winning the war is not really a concern for us(Canadian Eagles) BUT we can't deny being happy when we succesfully capture or win a round...
Now I'm reading all these rules about WHEN we can capture and WHEN we shouldn't capture...
I work shift rotation.(nightshift and dayshift)
My days off, I fly in AvA(E/T) when there's a only 3 of us in there !
Now I'm afraid/confused on doin' a "deack or bombing" run and being accused of milking or capturing an undefended base ???
If this happens guys, I guarantee you that was not my intentions to break the rules !
On another note, WHY USING THE SCOREBOARD ?
Ranks and scores makes players do stupid things and say bad things and it "snowballs" from there ! Just because he got shot down and it affected his scores, the SMACK talking errupts and it goes downhill:furious
Anyway ! Congrats and keep up the good work !
Phil / OPP7755
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hello Phil,
I agree with the score thing that you said but if you look you will see that the AvA has more players on at US prime time than the mid and early wars combined.
this is a clear statement by the playing field that inspite of the limitations they prefer to have an objective that is achievable and will be somehow rewarded if obtained. the staff has hit upon a formula that works.
there will be downsides though and it becomes immediately obvious that the 1v1 will not be respected, you will be HO'd often repeatedly, you will be vultched and you will be taunted. even some of our very skilled 200 typists were given a run for the money last night by the prepubscent MAlings who are much better keyboard warriors than they are in a spit with a 10k advantaqe.
as of today I will be de tuning 200 the game will improve flavor for me and for everyone else as well.
the change is a good one, speaking for myself I hope it will continue. this map is a beauty but it is not really condusive to good fights and yet there were some great fights in the arena.
to all
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Don't quote me on this, because it may not be 100% accurate, but as I understand it...
As long as there are "Similar" numbers on each side, then it's not considered milkrunning. Because strats are not working correctly on this map, fields are fair game as long as there is sufficient numbers.
I wouldn't go dropping in hordes of troops. But I see no reason why you can't attack a field, de-ack it, blow up structures, and even attack the planes defending. Just make sure it's not a 5 vs 1 type deal.
If the Axis have 5 players, and the allies have 5 players, and the allied pilots are organized and working togeather. And just 1 axis pilot is defending the base you chose, and those other 4 are just off someplace else (probably attacking an undefended base as well) then I see no reason why that isn't legitamate.
The italy map is SOOOOooooo much larger, that I don't see it having the same issues that the earlier two rounds propagated.
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It seems AvA is turning into battle of egos just as much as MA
I'm one of those ''piglets'' but each time I've been there, I have seen squads fighting for fun rather then 'milkrunning'
So in short, I'm staying out of the battle of egos on this one