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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: SuBWaYCH on January 25, 2008, 02:24:01 PM
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Mig-3 is now a must.
Yak-3 would be nice, but it can wait.
He-111 also a must.
Ki-44/Ki-43 are HIGHLY needed.
239 Buffalo should be next on the list.
IAR-80 is a possibility.
and Lastly,
Remake the Lancaster
:D
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Ju-52,
He-111,
Ju87G2.
Thank you, carry on.
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P-40N and Spitfire Mk XII, please.
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Hows about you be content with what you have. :rolleyes: :D
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Pe-2
Tu-2
He-111
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Gonna enjoy White 23 for a while before beggin for a Yak3
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Hows about you be content with what you have. :rolleyes: :D
word
#S#
Banshee7
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Seems like they are following the vote we had.
B25 was first and then the P39. What came in third?
That'll probably be your next model.
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Originally posted by Blooz
Seems like they are following the vote we had.
B25 was first and then the P39. What came in third?
That'll probably be your next model.
He111 I think, not sure
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JU-87 G1....
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Originally posted by Blooz
Seems like they are following the vote we had.
B25 was first and then the P39. What came in third?
That'll probably be your next model.
A-26 was 3rd.
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Originally posted by Bronk
A-26 was 3rd.
410 was third:p
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The Nook was 3rd :t :D .
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How about the only plane that flew with 8x20mm in the nose?
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f*ck yea!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!
TO EVERY1 EVEN THE ROOKS AND I HATE THEM!!!!
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P-61 is my input :D
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Originally posted by moot
How about the only plane that flew with 8x20mm in the nose?
How about plane with highest k/d?
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Time for the bomber crowd to get thrown a bone. I'd love one of the fast mediums. A-26 or the TU-2. The Pe-2 would probably get a following.
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Originally posted by Xjazz
How about plane with highest k/d?
We already have that ... the F6F ... it would be nice to get it re-modeled tho.
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I'd love it if we got the 410, that plane was a monster.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Time for the bomber crowd to get thrown a bone. I'd love one of the fast mediums. A-26 or the TU-2. The Pe-2 would probably get a following.
B25H and C ?
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Time for the bomber crowd to get thrown a bone. I'd love one of the fast mediums. A-26 or the TU-2. The Pe-2 would probably get a following.
TU-2 and Pe-2 both get my vote :aok
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Italian fighters/Axis transport = priority.
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I highly doubt they are going down the vote list.
The P-39 makes sense for a number of reasons, including the incredibly close vote.
The next aircraft added is almost certainly not going to be American and very unlikely to be British.
My guess is something off of this list, and yes, I am giving myself a large target.
Fighters:
C.200
I-16-24
J2M3
Ki-43-II
Ki-44-II
LaGG-3
Me410
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7
Bombers:
Do17
Do217E
G4M2
He111
He177A-5
Ju52
Ju188A-2
Pe-2
S.M.79-II
Tu-2
Wellington Mk III
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You are all missing the most obviously needed ride . . .
(http://membres.lycos.fr/fass3d/rnl/Wirbelwind.jpg)
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HE-111 NEXT PLEASE!!!
yay!!! i finally have a new tater plane to try and die!
<---- only one tater kill in his career so far....
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I DONT CARE, THE P-39 WAS MY #1 ON THE LIST FOR NEW PLANES!!!! W00T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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:cry Ow my ears!
love the looks on the P39
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Buffalo!
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Combat Tour: 2 Weeks***....
P-39: 1 WEEK!!!***
***we mean AHII development weeks, not actuall weeks
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so what is that like a month or so from now.......j/k
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Beaufighter thank you :)
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A26:aok
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Beaufighter thank you :)
Agreed from the allied point of view & let it be a DAP MK21 Please. (http://www.picburst.com/uploads/b8d3f4e14a.jpg) (http://www.picburst.com)From the axis side of things HE111 next.
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Me 410 with the Mk 103 would be nice.
The Migs would be useless, the complete lack of firepower would make them as much a novelty as the Spit I and C 202.
I would like to see the addition of another Italian fighter or the Me 410.
Failing that we need a Ruski bomber.
We have no Russian level-bombers and every other nationality represented in the game currently has a level bomber.
Americans have bucket loads, Japanese have 67s, Brits have Lancs, Germans have the 88s....
I'm not sure that Italy had any.... so that leaves the Russians.
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Originally posted by Xasthur
Me 410 with the Mk 103 would be nice.
The Migs would be useless, the complete lack of firepower would make them as much a novelty as the Spit I and C 202.
I would like to see the addition of another Italian fighter or the Me 410.
Failing that we need a Ruski bomber.
We have no Russian level-bombers and every other nationality represented in the game currently has a level bomber.
Americans have bucket loads, Japanese have 67s, Brits have Lancs, Germans have the 88s....
I'm not sure that Italy had any.... so that leaves the Russians.
Mig would not be a waste. It would be GREAT addition to snapshots and FSO's and such. I'd fly it a lot in the MA as well.
I agree about the level russian bombers though.
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early war needs help in plane set. As the best early war plane we need
is the D.520 served in the battle of france vinnchi and the revolution freedom fighters through the war ,hell even the germans used them as trainers and fighters
and france has not 1 single representation in the set
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5439/219gd8.jpg)
Specification of the D.520:
One Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 twelve-cylinder Vee liquid cooled engine rated at 930 hp for takeoff. Maximum speed 329 mph at 19,685 feet, 280 mph at sea level. Initial climb rate 2362 feet per minute. Time to 13,120 feet was 4 minutes. Service ceiling 36,090 feet, normal range was 620 miles and maximum range was 777 miles. Dimensions: wingspan 33 feet 5 1/2 inches, length 28 feet 8 1/2 inches, height 8 feet 5 inches, wing area 171.684 square feet. Weights: 4608 pounds empty, 6129 pounds maximum loaded. Armed with one 20-mm Hispano-Suiza 404 cannon with 60 rounds mounted between the engine cylinder banks and firing through the propeller spinner, plus four 7.5-mm MAC 1934 M 39 machine guns in the wings with 500 rpg.
(http://batfredland.free.fr/AA2003_D520Mae832.jpg)
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6702/d520vj0.jpg)
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Italians: G.55 S.M 71
Yes we need the HE111 but we still need some trasport/Bomber which is S.M 71 thats a priority.
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MIG-3
Pe-2
any Japanese army figter....please!
...and thanks for the P39
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pe-2
he-111
do-17
any flying boat
redo of yak
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Originally posted by Xasthur
Me 410 with the Mk 103 would be nice.
The Migs would be useless, the complete lack of firepower would make them as much a novelty as the Spit I and C 202.
I would like to see the addition of another Italian fighter or the Me 410.
Failing that we need a Ruski bomber.
We have no Russian level-bombers and every other nationality represented in the game currently has a level bomber.
Americans have bucket loads, Japanese have 67s, Brits have Lancs, Germans have the 88s....
I'm not sure that Italy had any.... so that leaves the Russians.
P-108 for the Italians..not wishing, just saying they had plenty of lvl bombers.
(http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/heavy_bombers/images/p108c.jpg)
Heck the Sm-79 did alot of level bombing over Malta.
(http://www.acesofww2.com/Bombers/39-41/Savoia-Marchetti-SM.79.jpg)
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Actually, the MiG-3 would be a waste. I am continual baffled by the requests for it. It is neither a good MA fighter nor a good scenario fighter, so all I can think is people ask for it because it is pretty or because it is a MiG, and latter jets made the MiG name famous.
Why is it a lousy scenario fighter? Because it was very rare and saw light use compared to many other Soviet fighters.
Want a good Soviet fighter for scenarios? All of these are better choices than the MiG-3:
I-15
I-16-24
LaGG-3
Yak-1
Yak-7
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We i think we need or i would like
He111
SM79
and how about some biplanes
gloster gladiator
Fiat cr 42
I153 bis
id personaly love to see a beaufighter added and a meteor 111
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Originally posted by Karnak
Actually, the MiG-3 would be a waste. I am continual baffled by the requests for it. It is neither a good MA fighter nor a good scenario fighter, so all I can think is people ask for it because it is pretty or because it is a MiG, and latter jets made the MiG name famous.
Why is it a lousy scenario fighter? Because it was very rare and saw light use compared to many other Soviet fighters.
Want a good Soviet fighter for scenarios? All of these are better choices than the MiG-3:
I-15
I-16-24
LaGG-3
Yak-1
Yak-7
You talk about the MiG... and then you say the LaGG? The Lacquered coffin?
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he-129
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Originally posted by Motherland
You talk about the MiG... and then you say the LaGG? The Lacquered coffin?
But it was used and produced in quantity. I am not talking about how capable they are, but whether they were used in numbers or not.
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twinboom, there r no french fighters cause every1 hates the french, and they would surrender while u flyin em...
o and how long would an AHII Developement week be??
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Originally posted by angelsandair
how long would an AHII Developement week be??
A Fortnight..
:noid
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Originally posted by angelsandair
twinboom, there r no french fighters cause every1 hates the french, and they would surrender while u flyin em...
o and how long would an AHII Developement week be??
For the love of .... pick up a book and educate yourself, please.
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Originally posted by angelsandair
twinboom, there r no french fighters cause every1 hates the french, and they would surrender while u flyin em...and i`m making this moronic statment
?huh
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Actually if you were going to round out the early war set with 1 plane that could do both western and eastern front the choice is pretty simple. The hawk 75 easily outperformed the D.520 with regard to combat record in french service and performed admirably in finnish service as well.
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We still have 1941~summer 1943 to fill. Two full years of VVS planes entirely missing from the game.
Today the P-39, tommorow the VVS..!
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Originally posted by SlapShot
We already have that ... the F6F ... it would be nice to get it re-modeled tho.
Sorry but it is not F6F.
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A lot of very representative VVS mid GPW inventory could be aquired just by padding out the Yak and Lavochkin ranges back to the Yak 1 and the La5F without massive need for huge amounts of work hours compared to that needed for the Mig3 and Lagg3 etc.
I would like to see the Yak3 added. I have come to believe it is not so similar to the Yak 9U as we once believed and is one of the significant players during the latter part of WWII not represented in game. Particularly now the other significant player missing (P39) is imminent.
Actually mid GPW level bombers are well represented by the Boston III.
I cant see HTC modelling an SU2 any time soon.
Late war Tu2 might be nice but I think the VVS actually had more Bostons over the GPW as a whole. The Pe2 dive bomber (remember the IL2 is not actually a dive bomber its a low level battle field tool) is significantly absent as the VVS's main rear of front ground attack tool.
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Originally posted by angelsandair
twinboom, there r no french fighters cause every1 hates the french, and they would surrender while u flyin em...
o and how long would an AHII Developement week be??
You realise that without the help of France we would still most likely be a colony of Britain? Or a part of Canada?
I do, actually, think the D.520 would be cool. But the list comes down to...
Ju-52
German Halftrack
Kubelwagen :aok
The Kubelwagen can have someone sitting in the passenger seat with an MP40 or a P08 or P38 or something to shoot at troops :lol
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If I had a 2 fighters, 1 GV pcik...
1) Yak-7A
A very early Yak, with very comparable performance to both the Yak-1 and the Yak-7B, that may stand in for scenarios/events featuring Yaks from the beginning of Barbarossa to early 1942. The beginning of the "heavy Yak" line, which would eventually evolve in to the Yak-9U in the latter days, the Yak-7 was originally a two-seat trainer version that was converted into single-seat fighters due to shortage of Yak-1 production. Over 6,000 Yak-7 airframes have been deployed during
2) Ki-45 Kai
A double-engined fighter of the Imperial Japanese Army, some might consider this a strange choice over other, usually better known single-engined Japanese fighters.
The Ki-45 was estimated to be produced around 1600~1700 airframes during the course of the entire war. While the very first version was deemed a failure, continued development and modifications led to the "kai (literally refined or modified)" versions which were extensively developed to carry a variety of armament. While it was still much lacking in speed compared to US fighters, the Ki-45 was actually the fastest Japanese fighter in stock during the time of its first deployment, as well as being a very agile and nimble plane as a double-engined plane.
The reason I chose this, was that it is an important part of the Japanese plane roster, a fighter which was first introduced in 1941, and used until the last moments in Japanese home defense, against the mighty B-29s. It also holds a very diverse variety of armaments in a variety of sub-variants that can make a very good use of the recent AH armament system change which allows to select different arming options to portray different versions, as well as providing the Japanese plane roster with a heavily armed fighter.
* Ki-45Kai-Ko (Standard)
2x Ho103 12.7mm
1x Type89 7.7mm
* Ki-45Kai-Ko (Ko type armament)
2x Ho-103 12.7mm
1x Type89 7.7mm
1x Ho-3 20mm (underbelly)
* Ki-45Kai-Ko (Tei type armament)
2x Ho-103 12.7mm
1x Type89 7.7mm
2x Ho-103 12.7mm or 2x Ho-5 20mm (upward firing)
* Ki-45Kai-Otsu
2x Ho-103 12.7mm
1x Type89 7.7mm
1x Type94 37mm AT
* Ki-45Kai-Tei
1x Ho203 37mm
2x Ho-5 20mm (upward firing)
(Hei and Bo versions are nightfighters)
3) German mobile 88mm FlaK battery, with a towing vehicle.
Bring on the 88! (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203495&highlight=bring+flak) .. need I say more? :D
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Wirbelwind sounds great. ostwind sometimes dosen't cut it.i couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 37mm. more might help. what's the wirbelwinds armament?:rolleyes: :D
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Originally posted by PropHawk
Wirbelwind sounds great. ostwind sometimes dosen't cut it.i couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 37mm. more might help. what's the wirbelwinds armament?:rolleyes: :D
Quad 20mm.
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how about a jeep with two mounts in the front for two twin vikers k same in rear.big mount for a .50 in the middle? they fire incindiery rounds.wirbelwind's still great ,though.:)
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My list,
Tu-2, is a must soviets need a level bomber!!!
Yak-3, Don't really want it because it will be a nuisance but oh well.
G4M2, Similar to KI-67's but bigger loadout
Do 217, This would see more usage in the MA than the heinkel.
I-16, Fun early soviet plane
Frank 1c just think a heavier KI-84 with 2 x 20mm, 2 x 30mm, Maybe perked.
Anything British!
Halifax, beaufighter, Powered up Mossies, Spit 12,21. Gloster meteor!
Bruv
~S~
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Originally posted by Kweassa
If I had a 2 fighters, 1 GV pcik...
1) Yak-7A
A very early Yak, with very comparable performance to both the Yak-1 and the Yak-7B, that may stand in for scenarios/events featuring Yaks from the beginning of Barbarossa to early 1942.
IMO, we shouldn't need 'Stand ins' for the second most prolific aircraft in history, beneath the Il-2. Bring on the 1, 7, and 3 right after we get the Ju-52.
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IMO, we shouldn't need 'Stand ins' for the second most prolific aircraft in history, beneath the Il-2. Bring on the 1, 7, and 3 right after we get the Ju-52.
Well, at heart, I feel the same way.
But as always, a compromise is required to persuade both the developers and the gamers as to why a particular plane choice should be on the "next" list.
As a matter of fact, the reason the P-39 ranked so high in votes (unlike the B-25 which received a considerable boost in votes from the "Doolitlle raid" squeakers :D, or how the Yak-3 received a boost from the "superplane" fan boys :D :D ) was the logic that the P-39 was an ideal plane in that;
1) it was a part of a US planeset, unintroduced plane type and not some variant of an already existing plane
2) has a double-role in filling out a very important part of the VVS planeset
3) a mid-war plane with some degree of potential even in the MA
4) very important in all sorts of Eastern front scenarios and events
5) some degree of importance in Pacific theater scenarios and events
6) and also massively produced type, not some very early war or late war, or small batch, obscurely produced type
Like many people I don't think the HTC crew is moving down the vote list. I believe that HTC accepted the above public reasoning for the P-39 - it makes sense.
Therefore, I'm thinking that the Yak-7A or the -7B would also find such compromise acceptable. While the Yak-1 was the very first, really competitive fighter the VVS deployed, its shortage in production numbers gave rise to the Yak-7 series as a real-life "stand in" for the Yak-1s. Not only do they have a very close performance to the Yak-1, it also fills a larger time span from 1941 to mid 1942, before the Yak-1B comes out.
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well FIRST of all, anyone know about what day the P-39 is coming out, and SECOND is it in january, o and also, maybe we should get like 2 or 3 versions of the p-39, i guess an early war, mid war, and the late war p-63 or p-400 (not sure about p-400 is it kind of even late war, im pretty sure p-63 is)
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Originally posted by Kweassa
1) ...
2) ...
3) ...
4) ...
5) ...
6) ...
You forgot about The Big F***ing Gun in nose :)
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Originally posted by Oleg
You forgot about The Big F***ing Gun in nose :)
I dont want to rain on the parade but if modeled correctly your probably going to be dissapointed with that "big gun". If memory serves it had very poor ballistics, far worse then the Russian 37mm, and wasnt much use for GVs either.
But if you can use the Russian 37mm you'll probably be able to adjuest for the Yank Colt one. Either way Im sure the 39 will be a fine addition to the game. I just wish it had a 20mm Hispano instead.
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P-39's M4 37mm = 610m/sec muzzle velocity.
Yak-9T's NS-37 37mm cannon = 900m/sec muzzle velocity.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I dont want to rain on the parade but if modeled correctly your probably going to be dissapointed with that "big gun".
I dont have any illusions about M4.
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BUT when can we expect the p-39 in the game?? im freaking excited, i dont care about anything else
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Originally posted by angelsandair
BUT when can we expect the p-39 in the game?? im freaking excited, i dont care about anything else
Evrey time HT sees "When", he pushes it back another 2 weeks.
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Meh even if its not the best round for killing tanks and fighters, it can still be used to deack fields, take down towns and lob rounds at bombers.
Also 610m/sec, whats that with 330+ mph added?
:)
Not exactly useless.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Evrey time HT sees "When", he pushes it back another 2 weeks.
Well thanks now its back another 2 weeks! :furious
:D (kidding)
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Originally posted by humble
Actually if you were going to round out the early war set with 1 plane that could do both western and eastern front the choice is pretty simple. The hawk 75 easily outperformed the D.520 with regard to combat record in french service and performed admirably in finnish service as well.
Good point...
We may not appreciate the French much. "Don't like their wine".:cry "Don't like their cheese".:D But, the fact remains that they were an important WWII allie. The french underground helped to make D-Day a reality for the allies. Keep in mind that although french aircraft development and production was not up to par at the beginning of the war, nor was the Americans or the Soviets. There country was overrun and occupied. Pretty hard to develop warplanes under those conditions.
In all of that, I believe that the French should be represented with that sorry D.520 and at least the bitmore capable Hawk 75. Any of the rest of their aircraft were rubbish.
Anyway...
Choices:
JU-52
PBY-5 Catalina (Port/Seaborne - Bomber/Transport)
Sm. 79 (Bomber/Transport)
PE-2 or TU-2
P-40N-5
Cheers:aok
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Originally posted by Karnak
But it was used and produced in quantity. I am not talking about how capable they are, but whether they were used in numbers or not.
Oh, and the MiG-3 wasn't? Over 3,300 were produced and delivered, and to be honest, that's a hell of a lot more than a lot of the planes we've currently got in our set. And the MiG-3 out-performed the LaGG-3 in all respects, not to mention that it had more firepower.
I'm going to enjoy seeing your attempt to back out of this one.
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Originally posted by swareiam
Good point...
We may not appreciate the French much. "Don't like their wine".:cry "Don't like their cheese".:D But, the fact remains that they were an important WWII allie. The french underground helped to make D-Day a reality for the allies. Keep in mind that although french aircraft development and production was not up to par at the beginning of the war, nor was the Americans or the Soviets. There country was overrun and occupied. Pretty hard to develop warplanes under those conditions.
In all of that, I believe that the French should be represented with that sorry D.520 and at least the bitmore capable Hawk 75. Any of the rest of their aircraft were rubbish.
Anyway...
Choices:
JU-52
PBY-5 Catalina (Port/Seaborne - Bomber/Transport)
Sm. 79 (Bomber/Transport)
PE-2 or TU-2
P-40N-5
Cheers:aok
On the contrary, their wines and cheeses are most excellent.
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Originally posted by Fruda
On the contrary, their wines and cheeses are most excellent.
Yes, you are correct. They are delicasies. Just being sarcastic.;)
Cheers:aok
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Oh, and the MiG-3 wasn't? Over 3,300 were produced and delivered
6,500 LaGG-3s produced and delivered.
.. and to be honest, that's a hell of a lot more than a lot of the planes we've currently got in our set.
In turn, the LaGG-3's also helluva lot more produced than the Mig-3.
And the MiG-3 out-performed the LaGG-3 in all respects, not to mention that it had more firepower.
When was performance ever a standard in picking AH fighters?
I'm going to enjoy seeing your attempt to back out of this one.
He doesn't need to. Your rooting for Mig-3's already pwned by our rooting for LaGG-3s.
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I'm sure we won't get any new Yaks until they re-do the current Yak models, at which point we'll get a few new models. Who knows, it may end up looking like the spitfire series. This makes the most sense.
Other Russian stuff will be nice though :)
And whatever happened to that talk of Submarines :^)
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Boulton Paul Defiant? Bristol Blenhiem? Commonwealth Boomerang?Dewoitine D.500 series?:lol :D
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How did the MiG-3 have more firepower than the LaGG-3?
MiG-3:
One 12.7mm machinegun firing through the propellor hub
Two 7.62mm machineguns in the cowl
LaGG-3:
One ShVAK 20mm cannon firing through the propellor hub
Two 12.7mm machineguns in the cowl
Looks to me like the LaGG-3 has the same armament as the MiG-3, but scaled up one notch.
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...Is that HTC just gives us the plane. No more voting please. The last one degenerated into flamefests, Fanboi walls' o'words, and a general nuisance, when you consider all the time we spent simply on the voting process. I don't care if it's a tank, a plane, a revision to an existing model. I'm thankful as hell we're getting the P-39. It shows' me that HTC and crew aren't forgetting the core game, that 'Combat Tour' isn't the focus of all they're developement.
I'm sure they realize that there's quite a few holes' in the planeset. They just take time to fill.
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Originally posted by Karnak
How did the MiG-3 have more firepower than the LaGG-3?
MiG-3:
One 12.7mm machinegun firing through the propellor hub
Two 7.62mm machineguns in the cowl
LaGG-3:
One ShVAK 20mm cannon firing through the propellor hub
Two 12.7mm machineguns in the cowl
Looks to me like the LaGG-3 has the same armament as the MiG-3, but scaled up one notch.
About 1/4 from total number of MiGs has 3x12 + 2x7.
http://www.wio.ru/gal2a/mig3-5mg.jpg
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F2A -brewster-
He-111
He-219
I-16
IAR-80
Ki-21
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-45
Ki-46
Ki-48
Ki-57
Ki-100
Me-410
RE2000
RE2001
RE2002
The day we have these planes listed here, is the day aces high will have aircraft in it most other "published" game's could only dream of.
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Originally posted by Oleg
About 1/4 from total number of MiGs has 3x12 + 2x7.
http://www.wio.ru/gal2a/mig3-5mg.jpg
That would still be less firepower than the LaGG (at least with how AH is modeled).
Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
F2A -brewster-
He-111
He-219
I-16
IAR-80
Ki-21
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-45
Ki-46
Ki-48
Ki-57
Ki-100
Me-410
RE2000
RE2001
RE2002
I am interested as to why the Ki-100 is above the 410?
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Originally posted by Motherland
That would still be less firepower than the LaGG (at least with how AH is modeled).
I am interested as to why the Ki-100 is above the 410?
Probably so it is included with all the other Japanese A/C?
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
F2A -brewster-
He-111
He-219
I-16
IAR-80
Ki-21
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-45
Ki-46
Ki-48
Ki-57
Ki-100
Me-410
RE2000
RE2001
RE2002
The day we have these planes listed here, is the day aces high will have aircraft in it most other "published" game's could only dream of.
Ahhh...
Many of those' A/C already are IN games' such as Targetware and IL-2.
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Originally posted by Motherland
I am interested as to why the Ki-100 is above the 410?
Take a close look . . . .
Alphabetical order, perhaps? ;)
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Originally posted by E25280
Take a close look . . . .
Alphabetical order, perhaps? ;)
Good eye :aok
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Flying MIG-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJQ2MsrWaRw&feature=related
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YAK-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnAprXmDFcQ&feature=related
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Originally posted by moot
How about the only plane that flew with 8x20mm in the nose?
REally??? :D :D
What is this thing? If it exists I want it *drools* :D :D
Yossarian
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P39 is a US bird but also a USSR bird so I wanna see a Japanese bird or two
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Me410. The 8x20 mod was probably a one-off, but it was proven to work in combat action, so maybe HTC will allow it as a very hard to get field mod in CT.
The 410 could carry a lot of other guns, from classic combinations we have in the 110G2, to stronger stuff like MK103s, BK3.5 and possibly other stuff too. Its cockpit floor also had a glass section right near the pilot's feet, so it would make lead shots much easier to track.
It also had some remote controlled rear guns and was dead sexy to boo.
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The Biggest laugh I get is reading how some actually WANT the Brewster Buffalo!!! I would LOVE to see one... in the gunsite of my 109G14 or SpitIX... EASY KILL... Pad my poor fighter score...
Nobody is brave enough to say (FLAME RETARDANT SUIT, ON) the B-29 Superfortress. We need another perk'd bomber badly and the ONLY one that would be a match on deep penetration raids against 163s and 262s would be Beoing's best of the war... Bring on the Superfort!
disclaimer: This is NOT a troll
:lol :aok :lol :aok :lol
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Ok, sounds nice (<-- BIG understatement)
I found this website which mentions Me-410s with at least 4 20mms (search for B-2/U-3/R-5): Here (http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_me_410.html)
Anyway, I think it would be nice to have the B-29, for the reasons MajIssue gave, and the Me-410 (with an option for as many 20mms as it ever carried), both with extremely heavy perks.
Here's my logic: the Me-410 could join the 262s and 163s as being only spawnable from bases right near HQs (maybe the same for B-29s), so then people with loads of bomber perks could up several B-29s on an HQ mission, shoot it out with the Me 262s, 163s & 410s, and then see what happens. Neither of these planes would probably unbalance things too much, as they'd only be spawned from bases near HQs (aside from the 262), and they'd have huge perk prices anyway.
Yossarian
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The 8x20 mod was probably a one-off, but it was proven to work in combat action, so maybe HTC will allow it as a very hard to get field mod in CT.
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Eight 20mm on a single pair of wings?
Why even bother logging on :rolleyes:
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Yossarian the 410 is a prop, why put it in the same category as 262s and 163s? It was used in more or less the same role as the 110. It most likely (allowing for some unhistorical ACM flogging here in AH) couldn't compare with pure fighters like the P51 or 109.
Yeager is that a white flag tucked between your legs? - snork
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I meant as in all three (or 4 if you count the B-29) planes have something that makes them really stand out from others:
Me-262-- jet engines
Me-163-- rocket engine
Me-410-- COULD have at least six 20mm cannons (perhaps 8; not sure)
(B-29-- able to carry huge bombloads long distances etc)
I'm sure the 410 couldn't compare with the P-51 or Bf-109 etc, but some variants did have 6x 20mms
Yossarian
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410 shouldn't be base limited, yet alone perked. It is a neat airplane, but isn't any better than a Mossie or Bf110 really. In one case I am familiar with one tried to dive away from two LF Spitfires and was subsequently run down and killed on the deck. An FB.VI Mosquito would have escaped.
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The 410 could have 8 mounted, or a pair MK103, or a BK3.5 even, but that's not nearly enough to warrant perking it. The 8x151/20 would definitely be a perk loadout - though probably not in the MA unless a lot of other planes also got their rare and/or extreme loadouts.
It will probably have 6 20mm, but that's nothing really special, it's less than the 110G2 has (4x20+2x30). Like Karnak said the plane itself was no flying wonder, just an overengineered swiss knife that didn't go very fast nor handle very lightly.
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Well, so much the better :D :D
After your posts, I still think that such large fire power warrants a much smaller perk, perhaps equal to or a bit more than that of the F4U1-C, if only to prevent over-use in the roles of ground-attack and the probably rare snapshot (although I doubt it would be much more successful than the Bf-110 in the latter role).
Also, are there any loadouts that are perked for planes? I was under the impression that only the planes themselves could be perked.
Yossarian
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They are planning a perked loadout system. They said that was the reason the F4U-1C was not remodeled.
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Yeager is that a white flag tucked between your legs? - snork
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Tell you what..... I'll give you eight 20s if you'll give me one B-29 :)
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I'll see your B29 and raise you a BK5 in the Me410's nose. :D
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If you all remember the poll we took on what plane we wanted next the B25 won. The P39 was the second most wanted losing by not even a percent. I think what their doing is going in the order of what planes got further in the voting. That's just my guess the B25 won the P39 second and they came out in that order.
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Well, here's a USAF website about the BK-5 cannon (http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1012) (I don't really know why I put that there, but still...)
It would be a fun loadout, I'm sure, but I think I'd still prefer 8x 20mm cannons pointing ahead of me. :)
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O ya, I see alot of others think as I do. This is what I like,,,,,
(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Bombers/He111.jpg)
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Originally posted by mipoikel
Flying MIG-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJQ2MsrWaRw&feature=related
Interesting. Sounds almost identical to an Allison engine.
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Originally posted by Kweassa
6,500 LaGG-3s produced and delivered.
In turn, the LaGG-3's also helluva lot more produced than the Mig-3.
When was performance ever a standard in picking AH fighters?
He doesn't need to. Your rooting for Mig-3's already pwned by our rooting for LaGG-3s.
Why not just add both of them? My concern was the fact that somebody was asking for a LaGG-3 instead of a MiG-3, when we could easily (well, as easily as new aircraft come in AH) have the two of them added to the set. Both were significant Russian fighters, although the LaGG-3 was infamous for being a deathtrap, and the MiG-3 was infamous for not matching up so well against the Messerschmitts on the deck.
And I'll be honest... As much as I love the MiG-3, I'd rather see the LaGG-3 added before it, even if my only reasons are because it came first, and more were produced.