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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SIG220 on January 25, 2008, 09:14:47 PM
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Just saw it this afternoon. Was surprised how extremely violent and gory it was.
Is my memory failing me? Were the other Rambo movies as bloody in their violence? It has been a long time since I saw any of them. It seemed like Rambo killed people in just about every way that is imaginable in the new movie.
I never go to any slasher type horror movies, so maybe this level of gore is now normal for movies these days. Perhaps Stallone felt he needed to update his film for today's market.
The ending was the same, though. Rambo lives, the bad guys all die.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by SIG220
Just saw it this afternoon. Was surprised how extremely violent and gory it was.
Is my memory failing me? Were the other Rambo movies as bloody in their violence? It has been a long time since I saw any of them. It seemed like Rambo killed people in just about every way that is imaginable in the new movie.
I never go to any slasher type horror movies, so maybe this level of gore is now normal for movies these days. Perhaps Stallone felt he needed to update his film for today's market.
The ending was the same, though. Rambo lives, the bad guys all die.
SIG 220
The old Rambo movies were violent, but not gory. If I had some money I'd head out to see it. We've had a streak of very girly "Action" movies recently. I'm glad to see that Stallone has broken it.
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overkill gore on a new level and i only saw the trailer where he turned a truck-mounted 40mm AA gun on the driver 2 feet away. awesome.
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Like so many other movie franchises, that first Rambo was so damn good. I'll still watch it if I come across it channel surfing.
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You don't get to be called someone's "worst nightmare" by being polite.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The old Rambo movies were violent, but not gory. If I had some money I'd head out to see it. We've had a streak of very girly "Action" movies recently. I'm glad to see that Stallone has broken it.
I guess you don't remember him sewing his own arm up?
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Like so many other movie franchises, that first Rambo was so damn good. I'll still watch it if I come across it channel surfing.
Damn right, I'm the same, I can't tell you how many times I've come across First Blood on cable and just had to sit there and watch the whole thing.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Like so many other movie franchises, that first Rambo was so damn good. I'll still watch it if I come across it channel surfing.
Yeah its a pity the others ruined its reputation.
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I have heard its good. Maybe I'll go blow $20 this weekend.
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talk "gore" is sounds like the new AVP movie.
from the previews it looked damn gory.
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The Rambo series sucked because I had the misfortune of reading the book first (First Blood). The movie (what else is new?) was a complete disappointment.
I think I'll start watching the movies first THEN read the books.
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Well Saving Private Ryan was rather "gory" but that seemed to make it more authentic.
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(quote) I think I'll start watching the movies first THEN read the books. (unquote)
That can work, although sometimes a movie is more satisfying than its book, e.g., Jaws.
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Originally posted by Halo
(quote) I think I'll start watching the movies first THEN read the books. (unquote)
That can work, although sometimes a movie is more satisfying than its book, e.g., Jaws.
Apollo 13 was like that. Although dramatically different, the book was good, albeit rather dry. The movie was good, yet a completely different in the "drama" between the astromauts, etc.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The old Rambo movies were violent, but not gory....
When it was released, First Blood was considered to be quite violent and gory.
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I saw this on DIGITAL PROJECTION at The Rave here in Vegas.
There's no turning back to film projection after you see this in digital.
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Rambo III was the best. L33t to the max. I mean, like, when he flies that, like, Hind chopper. Awesome! And even though, like, you know its not a real Hind... I mean come on, it's still double cool. Muhajadeen-tastic, dude!
Ahem. Rambo IV? For god's sake. When are hollywood going to get back above a ratio of 10:1 in the 'films that are new and fresh : re-hash of 3rd sequel' stakes?
People are incredibly stupid and lazy.
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It's Al Gore, Rambo is all out on saving the enviroment from global change. Very educational.
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Originally posted by SIG220
Just saw it this afternoon. Was surprised how extremely violent and gory it was.
The ending was the same, though. Rambo lives, the bad guys all die.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
overkill gore on a new level and i only saw the trailer where he turned a truck-mounted 40mm AA gun on the driver 2 feet away. awesome.
Not being sarcastic.
The way I look at it is
War is gory. Why is it you think anyone who has ever been to it thinks its so terrible?
In any event. How was the movie?
Originally posted by SaburoS
The Rambo series sucked because I had the misfortune of reading the book first (First Blood). The movie (what else is new?) was a complete disappointment.
I think I'll start watching the movies first THEN read the books.
Originally posted by Halo
(quote) I think I'll start watching the movies first THEN read the books. (unquote)
That can work, although sometimes a movie is more satisfying than its book, e.g., Jaws.
I've taken to seeing the movie then reading the book. I find I can enjoy both that way.
Sometimes though The bok makes me mad at the movie.
Jurrassic Park was like that.
Loved the movie. then read the book. After I read the book I was like. "Why the @#@$ didnt they make THIS movie??
In JP the movie was good. but the book was GREAT. As good as the movie did. I think it would have done even alot better at the box office had they been more loyal to the book. Two completely different stories.
I dissagree with Jaws. Read the book. then saw the movie. I think I was like 13-14 at the time.
The book was better IMO And the fact the Hooper was doinking Brodys wife only added to the story. LOL
Band of Brothers. is one of the few movies I've seen that was almost entirey loyal to the book. And was just as good
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In the first Rambo, over an hour was cut of the forest scene. I think that was the best part imho.
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(http://worldofwonder.net/images4/rambochardlatimes.jpg)
I thought this was interesting :)
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umm Dyanamite, First blood, he killed the guy in the helicopter, at least one of the guys in the woods, and the sheriff at the end with the M60 through the ceiling.
IIRC when the set up the military tent to hunt him in the woods they mention a few officers killed.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Not being sarcastic.
The way I look at it is
War is gory. Why is it you think anyone who has ever been to it thinks its so terrible?
i didnt contradict that. i said it was awesome. but it is most likely overkill gore which stops it being horrific aka saving ryan beach scene and makes it just damn funny.
'hey look, that guy is still running without a head' is funny in rambo, its not in saving private ryan.
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I think it's ironic that someone who is so actively involved in gun control efforts with the Brady Bunch has made such a fine living out the the irresponsible, Hollywood fantasy glorification of firearm-related violence.
I'll not give this clown another penny as long as I can help it. Actually, that has been my goal since the mid 1980s, but I got suckered once at a drive in where Rambo III was the third movie.
Charon
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Originally posted by Charon
I think it's ironic that someone who is so actively involved in gun control efforts with the Brady Bunch has made such a fine living out the the irresponsible, Hollywood fantasy glorification of firearm-related violence.
I'll not give this clown another penny as long as I can help it. Actually, that has been my goal since the mid 1980s, but I got suckered once at a drive in where Rambo III was the third movie.
Charon
Hollywood is full of them. A bigger nest of money-grubbing, hypocritical h'oes you will never find. And they never meant that gun control should be applied to "them". They only want it applied to the unwashed masses out there.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Ahem. Rambo IV? For god's sake. When are hollywood going to get back above a ratio of 10:1 in the 'films that are new and fresh : re-hash of 3rd sequel' stakes?
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla
Godzilla vs. Mothra
Godzilla vs. Gigan
Godzilla vs. Monster Zero
The Return of Godzilla
Gorgo Versus Godzilla
Minya: The Son of Godzilla
Wait... That doesn't count.... Sony didn't yet own Columbia Pictures.
Frankenstein
Bride of Frankenstein
Young Frankenstein
Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein
The Ghost of Frankenstein
Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Jesse James Meets Frankenstein
Black Frankenstein
Frankenstein Meets the Space Men
Frankenstein '88
Dr. Frankenstein on Campus
Young Frankenstein
10 to 1 eh?
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Originally posted by AKIron
I guess you don't remember him sewing his own arm up?
You know, I did indeed forget that scene. But now that you mention it, I do indeed recall that.
I never bought any of the Rambo movies on tape or DVD. I've watched them a few times on TV, but I believe those showings were heavily edited for Television.
So maybe that was what struck me. The last times I saw them were on TV, and not at the theater. And the TV versions were definitely toned down.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by LePaul
Well Saving Private Ryan was rather "gory" but that seemed to make it more authentic.
That is true. Sometimes gore can be an essential part of telling a story.
But other times, it can seem gratuitous.
SIG 220
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Gratuitous violence ehh? Watch Shoot em up , Now that's gratuitous.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Hollywood is full of them. A bigger nest of money-grubbing, hypocritical h'oes you will never find. And they never meant that gun control should be applied to "them". They only want it applied to the unwashed masses out there.
One of the worst Movies of all time was last year's movie "Shoot 'em Up", starting Clilve Owen, Paul Giamatti, and Monica Bellucci.
It had the most stupid and obscene plot and action that I have ever seen. The movie starts out with hitmen brutally gunning down pregnant women who are almost full term. Paul Giamatti plays the monstrous leader of the assassins, and Clive Owen tries to save one of the women. Although she escapes and manages to give birth, she ends up being killed too. But Owen then manages to rescue her baby.
Clive Owen plays a vegetarian ex-special operations man, and is a master at shooting handguns. He and his father operated a gun store when he was younger, until one day he sold a gun to a man who then later that week murdered his wife and daughter. This caused Owen's character a lot of pain, and he joined the military to try to forget his loss, and thus became a highly trained killer. Owen has a fondness for eating carrots in the movie, and actually uses carrots to kill a couple of bad guys during the course of the film in some rather bloody and ridiculous ways.
Later in the movie you find out that the babies are all clones made from a powerful politician, who is dying from a terminal illness. The plan is to use the harvested bodies of the baby clones to cure the politician's illness. I forget all of the stupid stuff that was said, as it was so ridiculous.
Well, it then turns out that this politician is a leader in the Gun Control movement in Congress. So the owner of a leading gun manufacturing company in the United States hires the assassins to then kill all of these mothers before their clone babies can be born and harvested, so that the politician will then die from his illness, and not outlaw guns in America.
The most senseless and stupid movie ever made. It made virtually every movie reviewer's 10 worst list for 2007.
(http://www.firstshowing.net/img/shoot-em-up-posterb.jpg)
The movie does have a "happy" ending, though, as guns do end up being outlawed in the USA. Clive Owen, Monica Bellucci, and the rescued baby are the only characters still left alive at the end of the movie. Everybody else dies from gun violence.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by JB73
umm Dyanamite, First blood, he killed the guy in the helicopter, at least one of the guys in the woods, and the sheriff at the end with the M60 through the ceiling.
IIRC when the set up the military tent to hunt him in the woods they mention a few officers killed.
Nope, only the guy in the Helicopter actually died.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by Bronk
Gratuitous violence ehh? Watch Shoot em up , Now that's gratuitous.
Ha ha, I did!!! What a piece of junk that movie was!!
I should have asked for my money back.
SIG 220
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Here's a pretty dern kewl Gory/Bloody short:
KOOL AID KILLER (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1054045/kool_aid_killer/)
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Originally posted by SIG220 Later in the movie you find out that the babies are all clones made from a powerful politician, who is dying from a terminal illness. The plan is to use the harvested bodies of the baby clones to cure the politician's illness. I forget all of the stupid stuff that was said, as it was so ridiculous.
Did you find the cloning story or the fact that someone would want to save a politician ridiculous? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SIG220
Nope, only the guy in the Helicopter actually died.
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Nope.
The guy in the helicopter flew away safely.
Now the guy who fell out[/b] of the helicopter...
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Gore is good :D
(just movies anyway)
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That human Growth Hormone stuff must be quite something...the man is 61, I didnt realize he was that old and looked that buff.
Crap, at this rate, he wont kick the bucket til Rocky 34!