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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GtoRA2 on January 29, 2008, 09:30:55 PM
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I ran into this link on another forum.
Guy documents a negligent discharge into his own leg.
Some of the pics are harsh, but the story is a good read. (http://negligentdischarge.com/)
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LOL...just LOL..
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"I also forgot to clear the pistol", i can tell he was never a Marine, every time you put down a weapon you clear it, every time you pick it up you clear it. There is absolutely no excuse for a accidental discharge.
Guns are not toys, they can injure or kill, treat them with respect.
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yea LoL, but I've been there, but I was a lot luckier, a whole lot luckier...
You cant just pay lip service to gun safety, you have to do it right, everytime... I remember hearing about people getting accidently shot and they said "I was cleaning my gun and it fired" BS you cant clean a loaded weapon.... ever...
A guy I know used to work the ER, had an incident in his on base house, shotgun went off, straight up into the ceiling. He told them he was cleaning it. I told him BS... You Cant Clean A Loaded Weapon...
I shot myself in the leg, with a 22. Why, cause I was screwing around and not paying attention... but I was lucky, bullet hit a knot in my holster tie down and hit the seam of my levis, bullet was deflected away from my leg...
Clear your weapon. When handing your weapon to another person, clear your weapon. When someone hands you a weapon, even if you just saw them clear the weapon, Clear The Weapon... no excuses...
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good little reminder to have in the back of one's head when handling weapons. Seems like a good guy who's trying to make the best of a crappy mistake. I hope everything turns out ok with his leg.
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Good lesson. You can never be too careful.
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The closest I ever came to an accident like that was being surprised there was a round chambered when I picked up one of my .45s.
Its so ingrained, if I pick one up 5 minutes after I set it down or even two, I still do it.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I ran into this link on another forum.
Guy documents a negligent discharge into his own leg.
Some of the pics are harsh, but the story is a good read. (http://negligentdischarge.com/)
That's why I'm allways aiming at my mother in law.
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Originally posted by straffo
That's why I'm allways aiming at my mother in law.
Make sure you have a few accidents.... to be sure.. lol:D
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Originally posted by john9001
"I also forgot to clear the pistol", i can tell he was never a Marine, every time you put down a weapon you clear it, every time you pick it up you clear it.
hehe, you'd think so wouldn't ya. When I was in, a Cpl shot himself in the leg with his .45 while playing "quickdraw". We were not supposed to even have a round chambered unless the poopoo had hit the fan.
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i worry about screwing up this way.
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worrying about it is good....it will help remind you to check, double check and triple check.
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Geez, Have the presence of mind to know
what condition your weapon is in...
If you have to check it very 5 mins,
then you probably shouldn't own one...:rolleyes:
Just joshin ya, but the point is true nevertheless...;)
TH
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I have had guns go off twice...er.. three times in my life that were not intended.. all were my fault. All were really stupid.. one was a repair on a 25 auto that ended up shooting myself in the face.
The most tempting thing to do when working on guns is to check function with live ammo. It is best to make dummy rounds.
A friend has a sandbag in his reloading room.. it has two holes in it. it is the "safe direction" for him and in 20 years he has put two holes in the bag.. no exits. sand works.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I have had guns go off twice...er.. three times in my life that were not intended.. all were my fault. All were really stupid.. one was a repair on a 25 auto that ended up shooting myself in the face.
Ouch! That has got to hurt!
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Originally posted by TomHorn
Geez, Have the presence of mind to know
what condition your weapon is in...
If you have to check it very 5 mins,
then you probably shouldn't own one...:rolleyes:
Just joshin ya, but the point is true nevertheless...;)
TH
I disagree with your point, I would rather always have the urge to check. If the guy from the page above had, he would not have had a problem.
I have a VERY bad short term memory, I was even tested for it. I never trust my memory. I don't think thats a bad thing.
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I have oberved a negligent discharge at close qtr's only once....
My brother, LOL... He always was a hardhead...
The cause was an unfamiliar handgun...
He normally carries a Glock 45 fullsize...
But he also has a nickel 1911 straight butt
that dates from the 20's... 38super, Cool pistol...
He discharged it while placing it into a
brand new horsehide horizontal shoulder rig....
(The stiff new horsehide bumped off the old safety)
Sitting 5 feet away, I stood up and Bellowed,
(as a ret marine noncom should)
ARE YOU F***ING STUPID OR WHAT?????
Followed by a very masterfully delivered 1/2 hour tirade
about, "How can you be born, from the same mother as me?"
The bullet splattered on my stone fireplace,
and peppered his *** and legs w lead...
I had to replace the carpet because of the bloodstains...
What a jerk!!!
LOL, that was many years ago.. But he still isn't
allowed to carry weapons into my house...
And I still keep an eye on him when we're out
shooting, hunting, etc...
Some ppl only learn the hardway!!!
GtoR, sorry about your memory man...
But constantly diddlin the thing is more dangerous
than just letting it sit in a proper holster, or whatever...
TH
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Originally posted by TomHorn
I have oberved a negligent discharge at close qtr's only once....
My brother, LOL... He always was a hardhead...
The cause was an unfamiliar handgun...
He normally carries a Glock 45 fullsize...
But he also has a nickel 1911 straight butt
that dates from the 20's... 38super, Cool pistol...
He discharged it while placing it into a
brand new horsehide horizontal shoulder rig....
(The stiff new horsehide bumped off the old safety)
Sitting 5 feet away, I stood up and Bellowed,
(as a ret marine noncom should)
ARE YOU F***ING STUPID OR WHAT?????
Followed by a very masterfully delivered 1/2 hour tirade
about, "How can you be born, from the same mother as me?"
The bullet splattered on my stone fireplace,
and peppered his *** and legs w lead...
I had to replace the carpet because of the bloodstains...
What a jerk!!!
LOL, that was many years ago.. But he still isn't
allowed to carry weapons into my house...
And I still keep an eye on him when we're out
shooting, hunting, etc...
Some ppl only learn the hardway!!!
GtoR, sorry about your memory man...
But constantly diddlin the thing is more dangerous
than just letting it sit in a proper holster, or whatever...
TH
I only check it when it has left my possesion, or has been sitting and not in my site, I am not doing it all the time on the range when my mind is on it. Its just almost every time I pic up a gun, even after I set it down 2 minutes ago I check.
I see what you are saying, but I am really not fiddling with them when I use them or carry.
An examply of what I am saying is, I have a target on the wall in the computer room. allot of time I have my Sig or Springfield sitting at the desk unloaded and dry fire to practice trigger control. Even if it was only 2 minutes from the last time I handled the gun, I check it before pull the trigger.
There has to be a pause in the activity for me to forget it so the range doesnt pose any problems lol.
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Originally posted by TomHorn
Geez, Have the presence of mind to know
what condition your weapon is in...
If you have to check it very 5 mins,
then you probably shouldn't own one...:rolleyes:
Just joshin ya, but the point is true nevertheless...;)
TH
I dont think you understand what i meant, I'm not suggesting that you should check to see if your weapon is STILL loaded.
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yep.. I do the same gto.. I also check a gun even after I have seen someone check it themselves.
The worst things are always working on guns. it is VERY tempting to just use live ammo to check on function.
the next big mistake is one I never make and it sounds like horns brother did... keep your damn finger out of the triggerguard.
If you don't use live ammo to check function on guns you are working on... and.. the rest of the time you don't put your finger on the trigger till you want to fire or dry fire it.. you won't have any problems.. every "accident" I have ever heard of was because of one of these lapses..
some guns will fire if you drop em tho.. some will fire if you hit the hammer... some... you can release the sear without literally touching the trigger but... all of those things are pretty much trigger/hammer control issues.
lazs
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When I was in the 8th (about) grade my best friend shot himself. He put his mom’s 38 in his coat pocket. The bullet went straight through the big hole in his pelvis and exited through a butt cheek. He sat in the car for 15 minutes while his mother finished shopping. She arrived and he told her that he shot himself and needed to go to the hospital. Even though the round passed straight through the center of his body, he was pretty much fine. It basically squished between his intestines without damaging them.
I also knew a couple whose 8 year old shot his 5 year old with a .22. The kid was a vegetable after that. The same year the Mom’s dad bent over a campfire, his revolver slipped out of its shoulder holster, hit a rock and shot him in the head – dead. I think it was a Colt cowboy type gun, 44 maybe.
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When I was in Alaska someone in my platoon was out camping/finishing/hunting with a budy and he tried to hand him his hand gun, but dropped it and it discharged. His leg looked much worse than that I tell you. Had a baseball sized divot in his calf where there was nothing. Almost died too because he was too far from medical help. A boat just happened down the river right after it happened or he'd definitely be dead right now.
My father however set my best example for gun un-safety. He was hunting in Oregon and siting an Elk in some brush so he took the safety off. He couldn't get a clean shot and noticed the site on the end of his rifle was lose, so he decided he just grab it and put it in his pocket. Well... went he went to grab it he forgot to put the saftey back on and when he tried to yank it off the end the trigger caught on his keys.
And that is why... he is missing the end of his middle finger.
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I always assume a gun is loaded unless I just unchambered a round. Even then I sometimes have to do it twice. But then I occasionally circle the block to make sure I closed the garage door too.
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(quote) But then I occasionally circle the block to make sure I closed the garage door too. (unquote)
I do that too, and I don't even have a garage. One cannot be too careful. :noid
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eskimo... on the old single actions the only safe way to carry them was with the hammer resting on an empty chamber.. making them 5 shooters instead of six shooters. the firing pin on these old guns is resting on a live primer if the gun is fully loaded.
You need to know what kind of gun you have and how it functions. Transfer bars and such have made six shooters six shooters again. very safe.
lazs
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You cannot outlaw stupidity nor can you out engineer it's possible application. All you can try to do is not ever be stupid when it's going to hurt or be lethal.
Kudo's to the guy for putting up the experience and I hope he makes a full recovery.