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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazaa on January 30, 2008, 07:42:27 AM
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Should we save it a spot right next to the B-25 ?
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I'll give it a go. Sounds similar to the Yak9T I fly a lot against tanks. Don't know if I'll stick with it until I try it out.
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I don't think so.
As many have stated its strengths were low altitude and it has a tater. Should turn ok too.
Not a hangar queen.
Bruv
~S~
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No, it won't be. It gonna be an experten ride, but in a proper hands it will shine.
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The 25's not a hangar queen.
A better question is "will players in aces high ever improve their dogfighting so that they might capitalize on something else than ufo planes?". As it is, there are plenty of very capable birds that get no use because they require the player to learn their specific quirks/strengths/weaknesses.
This leaves the majority of the planeset very under-used.
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25's not a hanger queen.
I don't see too many 25C's, but the 25H is surely not a Hanger Queen. Also i doubt the 39Q will be one, that tater is attractive :D .
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Should we save it a spot right next to the B-25 ?
Yes put it next to the B25 on the flightline. I'll be flying them both from time to time.
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Originally posted by moot
As it is, there are plenty of very capable birds that get no use because they require the player to learn their specific quirks/strengths/weaknesses.
This leaves the majority of the planeset very under-used.
I've got to absolutely agree with you on this. I suppose it's only human nature to always and only fly the top performance planes and not challenge yourself to fly something a bit on the weak side. As much as I realize the top-end Spits, La7's, Typhoons, etc... are sweet planes, I rarely fly them. I like the challenge of getting a couple kills with something like the Yaks (which don't have loads of ammo). That's what this game holds for me; loads of different planes to experiment and have fun with, win or lose. (I mostly lose.:D)
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The Only hanger Queens in this game, are the players. I fly every plane in the set, and I have a blast doing it. Last night I flew C205 B5(kate) Bf109e Ki-61 Ju-87 P51b. Tonite? ...maybe some Hurri I's YakT Boston and who knows what else!
The average player is a score potato who only fly's La7's Spit 16's P51d's and Fw190d etc etc. They are so unsecure with their manhood that they are afraid to get beat. Yet it more enjoyable and a far greater test of your skill to fly an older bird and get results.
The problem with this game is and will allways be the players.
If you honestly feel that the game has Hanger Queens take a moment and make sure it's not you "the player" that is too scared to fly it? The plane has more "Balls" then the players. The plane is ready for action anytime you ask. Can you say the same of yourself?
Many many players do fly older birds....corky loves p38g's....karaya enjoy's Spit I's ...etc etc ......I have more respect for these types of players because they help to give the game "color" and personality. Frankly I'm bored to tears fighting endless waves of Spits La7 p51d's fw190d's ...yawn
Remember this, in War you didn't get to choose what you flew. Your comander tossed you the keys to a bird and said: "son get it done"
Helm ..... out
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It has always been one of my favourite airplanes and I'll surely fly it a lot.
-C+
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It's destined to occupy a parking space alongside the F4F, P40, A6M2 Zero, 109E, Yak9T, Spit1 and Hurricane 1.
After a couple weeks of excitement it will become a rare sight in LW arena.
As it should be. It's not a late war plane.
It's an early war plane and it will be flown in the EW arena along with it's EW arena counterparts and it will do well there.
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The P-39Q is a 1943 ride, it wont be in the EWA, not even as a perk ride.
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Should we save it a spot right next to the B-25 ?
not everyone flies the chick16 all the time ya know kaz... ;)
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Originally posted by Blooz
It's destined to occupy a parking space alongside the F4F, P40, A6M2 Zero, 109E, Yak9T, Spit1 and Hurricane 1.
After a couple weeks of excitement it will become a rare sight in LW arena.
As it should be. It's not a late war plane.
It's an early war plane and it will be flown in the EW arena along with it's EW arena counterparts and it will do well there.
Agreed. We're looking forward to getting it in AvA, it fills a number of holes.
- oldman
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the P39 did 390MPH at 9K. Even with out the 37mm If you take the 4 .50cals that's good for at least 4 to 5 kills. It's not going to be a hanger queen. It's going to be a great plane to fly and i really look forward to it.
VC
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Pretty amazing to see a lot of late war planes in the late war MA isnt it?:lol Must be an "insecure in your manhood" thingie. I'll bet in 1945 pilots were dieing to get into 1939 fighter planes.
Originally posted by Helm
The Only hanger Queens in this game, are the players. I fly every plane in the set, and I have a blast doing it. Last night I flew C205 B5(kate) Bf109e Ki-61 Ju-87 P51b. Tonite? ...maybe some Hurri I's YakT Boston and who knows what else!
The average player is a score potato who only fly's La7's Spit 16's P51d's and Fw190d etc etc. They are so unsecure with their manhood that they are afraid to get beat. Yet it more enjoyable and a far greater test of your skill to fly an older bird and get results.
The problem with this game is and will allways be the players.
If you honestly feel that the game has Hanger Queens take a moment and make sure it's not you "the player" that is too scared to fly it? The plane has more "Balls" then the players. The plane is ready for action anytime you ask. Can you say the same of yourself?
Many many players do fly older birds....corky loves p38g's....karaya enjoy's Spit I's ...etc etc ......I have more respect for these types of players because they help to give the game "color" and personality. Frankly I'm bored to tears fighting endless waves of Spits La7 p51d's fw190d's ...yawn
Remember this, in War you didn't get to choose what you flew. Your comander tossed you the keys to a bird and said: "son get it done"
Helm ..... out
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Pretty amazing to see a lot of late war planes in the late war MA isnt it?:lol Must be an "insecure in your manhood" thingie. I'll bet in 1945 pilots were dieing to get into 1939 fighter planes.
point is that this is a GAME and you can't really die. it can be a lot of fun flying those inferior rides and kicking the snot out of a ton of late war dweebs.
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The 390 mph was done with a turbocharger,at a higher altitude,like 20 k.376 was what the P39 could do after removal of the turbocharger.In real life the P39 could turn quite well,and climb was good.It's range was poor,but it could take a lot of damage.The P39 will fit in ok at the low alts that most fights occur in AH,but it will be a challenge to match the LaLas,Yaks etc.It just depends how HTC models the P39Q.It had many variants,and I hope we players have a chance to use the many variations.No wing pods,20mm verse the worthless 37mm etc.Anyway I'm looking forward to it's arrival.
IronDog
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No more of a hangar queen than any other ride out there. I will certainly give her a go, and see where she sits in my arsenal of destruction!
Oink
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Pretty amazing to see a lot of late war planes in the late war MA isnt it?:lol Must be an "insecure in your manhood" thingie. I'll bet in 1945 pilots were dieing to get into 1939 fighter planes.
You are so clueless .....
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Originally posted by IronDog
The 390 mph was done with a turbocharger,at a higher altitude,like 20 k.376 was what the P39 could do after removal of the turbocharger.In real life the P39 could turn quite well,and climb was good.It's range was poor,but it could take a lot of damage.The P39 will fit in ok at the low alts that most fights occur in AH,but it will be a challenge to match the LaLas,Yaks etc.It just depends how HTC models the P39Q.It had many variants,and I hope we players have a chance to use the many variations.No wing pods,20mm verse the worthless 37mm etc.Anyway I'm looking forward to it's arrival.
IronDog
wrong...
39Q at wep hit 390 at 9-10k
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Are we gonna be able to roll the window down and blast away with the .45?
shamus
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
not everyone flies the chick16 all the time ya know kaz... ;)
Agreed, you'll primarly find This pilot here in a 109 :D
ANY model :aok .
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Pretty amazing to see a lot of late war planes in the late war MA isnt it?:lol Must be an "insecure in your manhood" thingie. I'll bet in 1945 pilots were dieing to get into 1939 fighter planes.
Since this is neither 1939 or 1945, that's a silly argument. The point being, some of us prefer the challenge of not flying the latest and greatest in every fight as we realize no one is dying, and planes are free.
Too many folks miss out on the fun of flying other planes for fear they'll lose a fight, not have an advantage all the time, and they won't get their attaboys for landing their 10 vulches in their LA7.
The 39 will provide another challenge for folks willing to take it on and learn how it works best.
Will the 39 get flown as much as the LAs, N1Ks and Spit 16s? Nope. Too many folks insecure in their abilities to take the time to get good in it, and too wrapped up in thinking their AH ego matters :)
But if that's what's important to them, so be it. It's their dime.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Too many folks miss out on the fun of flying other planes for fear they'll lose a fight, not have an advantage all the time, and they won't get their attaboys for landing their 10 vulches in their LA7.
Agreed.
You would be amazed at the salutes you would get while flying your lesser ride in a good fight against superior odds.
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i think it will be equally matched with the p51b.
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Originally posted by Blooz
It's destined to occupy a parking space alongside the F4F, P40, A6M2 Zero, 109E, Yak9T, Spit1 and Hurricane 1.
After a couple weeks of excitement it will become a rare sight in LW arena.
As it should be. It's not a late war plane.
It's an early war plane and it will be flown in the EW arena along with it's EW arena counterparts and it will do well there.
Great another plane for Spacy UB6 TA57 and Myself :]
I love flyin the a6m2 (yes the 2) f4f was my learner bird and I love it, it just sucks fuel and is slow (thank god for DT's :] ) P40 is an amazing bird, it's just slow, but you sure can suprise the **** outta unsuspecting spit, la, and p51 pilots at it's turning capabilities. The 109's, I fly em all, Spit1, only problem is no fuel pump, hurricane mk I, love it.
The p39's gonna be a plane that takes some learning, therefore, another ride for me :aok
I love planes people underestimate such as the P40 or the P38J, people don't see it's full potential therefore, it makes 'em a bit more "confident" and making them make simple tactical errors that they wouldn't make if they knew the plane :aok
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Anyone care to check the #'s on the KI-61's? I mention that plane because of some success I enjoyed with it. The 1939 - 1942 group of planes. Much fun to be had with them.
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Fly what you like, like what you fly. The kind of plane you up has
absolutely nothing to do with your manhood or moral fiber.
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Anything that adds a little more variety for my A6M5b to shoot down is a good thing. Hell might even pull it out of the hanger a few times myself and die in it. Never was any good at aiming tater guns.
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People assume the P39 will suck because it dose not have a lot of ammo. Truth of the matter is the .50 Cal's alone are good for at least 3 kills if not more. It dose not have uber canon or uber Mg's to spray and pray and hope that it will hit the plane and do damage. The P39 will be a great challenge for people to learn to fly and learn to fight against. I for one look forward to the challenge of not a lot of ammo and the challenge of flying a new plane.
to HTC & and to Greebo and Fester who spent their time on this.
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Originally posted by thndregg
I've got to absolutely agree with you on this. I suppose it's only human nature to always and only fly the top performance planes and not challenge yourself to fly something a bit on the weak side. As much as I realize the top-end Spits, La7's, Typhoons, etc... are sweet planes, I rarely fly them. I like the challenge of getting a couple kills with something like the Yaks (which don't have loads of ammo). That's what this game holds for me; loads of different planes to experiment and have fun with, win or lose. (I mostly lose.:D)
i agree wit hthe fact that many pilots like to fly the better planes, but i also know a few pilots who like a harder plane (109K4, 109G6, 190's,) so i wouldnt say its "only human nature" i would say that it is pilots choice thundr
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
point is that this is a GAME and you can't really die. it can be a lot of fun flying those inferior rides and kicking the snot out of a ton of late war dweebs.
My thoughts, exactly.. :)
dentin
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I see b-25s every night that I get on...
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What kind of engine did this plane have? And what plane in the set had this eninge (if any?) (gonna customize my soundpack :D)
#S#
Banshee7
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Originally posted by Banshee7
What kind of engine did this plane have? And what plane in the set had this eninge (if any?) (gonna customize my soundpack :D)
#S#
Banshee7
It used the Allison V-1710, Same engine as used in the P-40 and the P-38.
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Originally posted by dentin
My thoughts, exactly.. :)
dentin
The P39 was around in the early days of WB , and was flown regularly by a very small group of enthusiasts (one plane kind of guys) and very rarely by the bulk of players. There was 1 guy who was amazing in it (for what it could do) but it was never really a threat to most of the rest of the plane -set. Might have been the "D" that was modelled , cant be sure.
Assuming the modelling will be similar , it will be an even tougher plane to fly in AH's MA with the prevalence of planes that will just outperform it in every way.
Its great to see it in the game though , be good for the AvA and all the other campaigns and events. Hopefully it wil get flown some in MW arena
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Pretty amazing to see a lot of late war planes in the late war MA isnt it?:lol Must be an "insecure in your manhood" thingie. I'll bet in 1945 pilots were dieing to get into 1939 fighter planes.
The thing is, we're playing a game. You may grasp that concept sooner or later.
Lastly, Helm would kick the snot out of you 9 times out of 10. He is also one of the most polite players in the game.
Move along now.
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Originally posted by beddog
I see b-25s every night that I get on...
Seeing it in the hanger when your scrolling down doesn't count :rofl
But on a serious note, the B-25 was flown hard core for the 1st day of its release. Now only a dedicated handful will give it the time of day.
If it doesn't collect dust in the hanger then that's great, but if it does then why not add something that will get more then 15 minutes of fame. Like the B-29 :aok
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Seeing it in the hanger when your scrolling down doesn't count :rofl
But on a serious note, the B-25 was flown hard core for the 1st day of its release. Now only a dedicated handful will give it the time of day.
If it doesn't collect dust in the hanger then that's great, but if it does then why not add something that will get more then 15 minutes of fame. Like the B-29 :aok
Let's here it for the dedicated few then :)
If we're going to base the adding of planes on use, then we might as well eliminate numerous planes first and turn this thing into SWOTL.
Guess I'll have to turn in my 38G. There Goes Karaya's Ki-61, Slapshot and Laz can give up their FM2s. Filth can get rid of his P40. No more Candy mountain Val missions. Forget the rest of the Spits since the 16 gets used most. Better lose all the 109s outside of the K and all the 190s besides the D9. Heck with that, lose all the LW birds but the 262 and 163
Better yet, lets create one ficitonal bird with amazing powers and let everyone fly that so things can be as even as possible.
Aces High 1946 version!
:rolleyes:
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Better yet, lets create one ficitonal bird with amazing powers and let everyone fly that so things can be as even as possible.
If they did that, it wouldn't be fictional - it would be an F4U Corsair! {grin, duck, run!}
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Redd, you must referr Redant:)
Hopefully he comes here and leave music for few hours in veek;)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Let's here it for the dedicated few then :)
If we're going to base the adding of planes on use, then we might as well eliminate numerous planes first and turn this thing into SWOTL.
Guess I'll have to turn in my 38G. There Goes Karaya's Ki-61, Slapshot and Laz can give up their FM2s. Filth can get rid of his P40. No more Candy mountain Val missions. Forget the rest of the Spits since the 16 gets used most. Better lose all the 109s outside of the K and all the 190s besides the D9. Heck with that, lose all the LW birds but the 262 and 163
Better yet, lets create one ficitonal bird with amazing powers and let everyone fly that so things can be as even as possible.
Aces High 1946 version!
:rolleyes:
Who said anything about getting shot of planes that we already have, let alone what ever else your going on about ?
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Who said anything about getting shot of planes that we already have, let alone what ever else your going on about ?
:rolleyes:
I took it a step further based on your implication that if it's not one that will be flown all the time, what's the point. Quoting:
"Seeing it in the hanger when your scrolling down doesn't count
But on a serious note, the B-25 was flown hard core for the 1st day of its release. Now only a dedicated handful will give it the time of day.
If it doesn't collect dust in the hanger then that's great, but if it does then why not add something that will get more then 15 minutes of fame. Like the B-29 "
BTW you deleted your first reponse quickly :)
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Should we save it a spot right next to the B-25 ?
The B-25 recorded more kills+deaths than the B-17 last camp. Hardly a hanger queen.
[EDIT] BTW, I'll fly the P-39. It will go right along with all the other EW/MW birds I fly in LW. Oddly enough, I do as well in those as I do in the LW uber rides.
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Originally posted by IronDog
The 390 mph was done with a turbocharger,at a higher altitude,like 20 k.376 was what the P39 could do after removal of the turbocharger.In real life the P39 could turn quite well,and climb was good.It's range was poor,but it could take a lot of damage.The P39 will fit in ok at the low alts that most fights occur in AH,but it will be a challenge to match the LaLas,Yaks etc.It just depends how HTC models the P39Q.It had many variants,and I hope we players have a chance to use the many variations.No wing pods,20mm verse the worthless 37mm etc.Anyway I'm looking forward to it's arrival.
IronDog
Hmmm
Originally posted by Widewing
376 mph reflects MIL power, not WEP (combat power).
See the chart below. Note that the power setting for the P-39Q at 376 mph is MIL power, which is (1,125 hp), not WEP (1,420 hp).
(http://home.att.net/~historyzone/P-39_data.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
Was capable of 376 without wep. If wep adds about 10 mph, (as it does with most AC) 386 mph is not far off 390mph.
Edit: not at 20k either.
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I need someone that knows their stuff to correct me if I'm wrong,but the P39 couldn't reach 390 mph w/o a turbocharger.Biggles stated that it could.Maybe in a dive it could,as it had excellent dive capabilities.It is interesting to note that a stripped down P39Q won the big Reno air race in 1946.
IronDog
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Irondog just look at the chart. It is exactly the same in AHT.
Without wep at approx 12k the Q did approx 376mph.
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I enjoy flying the less-than-uber aircraft. When its released, I'm going to take the P-39Q offline and explore its entire envelope. I'll record the data. Then, I'll take it to TA and wring it out against other trainers and some MA regulars. When I'm comfortable that I know everything there is to learn, I'll go to a LWA and make as many people as possible regret that HTC added it to the plane set.
It should have similar speed to the Bf 109F-4 on the deck, but will be in the top rankings at 9,000 feet where it will be as fast or faster than the Typhoon and P-47N. It will be significantly faster than the Spit XVI and F4U-1D. Its wing loading will be slightly lower than the Bf 109F-4, and it will climb at roughly the same rate as the Spit IX from sea level to 10k.
This fighter will get plenty of use, but it will be a demanding aircraft, keeping the numbers down to about those of the Yak-9T, Ki-61 and C.205.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
People assume the P39 will suck because it dose not have a lot of ammo. Truth of the matter is the .50 Cal's alone are good for at least 3 kills if not more. It dose not have uber canon or uber Mg's to spray and pray and hope that it will hit the plane and do damage. The P39 will be a great challenge for people to learn to fly and learn to fight against. I for one look forward to the challenge of not a lot of ammo and the challenge of flying a new plane.
to HTC & and to Greebo and Fester who spent their time on this.
I look foward to shooting all the p39's down :aok :aok
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i don't fly the b25c because its as defenseless as a c47 from low 6 attacks where all players in ah attack buffs from.
but I love flying the b25H as it is mean green and loaded to the teeth.
the 3d model for the p39 is awsome. its got very accurate texturemapping inside and out...
who cares if its a dog. that will make it a great plane for the experts.
its all about looking good and flying and dying with style :D
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I still think it will look better with a cobra on the door !! Please Fester....you got time to skin now don't cha? :t
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I took it a step further based on your implication that if it's not one that will be flown all the time, what's the point. Quoting:
"Seeing it in the hanger when your scrolling down doesn't count
But on a serious note, the B-25 was flown hard core for the 1st day of its release. Now only a dedicated handful will give it the time of day.
If it doesn't collect dust in the hanger then that's great, but if it does then why not add something that will get more then 15 minutes of fame. Like the B-29 "
BTW you deleted your first reponse quickly :)
The problem is the fact that you are implying something that is clearly untrue, I'm very happy that HTC are about to add another aircraft to the game which I've esspeacially enjoyed playing for about the last 3 years. But clearly, if you read my post correctly, the point that I was trying to make was not one of "why bother" but "why not". Why not add a plane that will get more then its 15 minutes of fame and be enjoyed by many in the long run, only if the answer to my first question was true. "Will it be another hanger queen in the LWM".
The reason I deleted my first post was because I knew that I would never get my point across by saying "lol that made me laugh". Even if it was true, as you totally misconstrued what I said.
Right, I'm off to bed Guppy35, I will most likely read your very informative reply in the morning, which I will then attempt to reply back, but with my normal poor spelling and grammar. :aok
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Originally posted by thndregg
I've got to absolutely agree with you on this. I suppose it's only human nature to always and only fly the top performance planes and not challenge yourself to fly something a bit on the weak side. As much as I realize the top-end Spits, La7's, Typhoons, etc... are sweet planes, I rarely fly them. I like the challenge of getting a couple kills with something like the Yaks (which don't have loads of ammo). That's what this game holds for me; loads of different planes to experiment and have fun with, win or lose. (I mostly lose.:D)
ThndrEgg how do you define a top performance plane. You know as well as I do that ANY plane in the right hands can be as devastating as the next.
:)
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Should we save it a spot right next to the B-25 ?
the b 25 isnt a hanger queen it is used alot
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Originally posted by Citabria
i don't fly the b25c because its as defenseless as a c47 from low 6 attacks where all players in ah attack buffs from.
but I love flying the b25H as it is mean green and loaded to the teeth.
the 3d model for the p39 is awsome. its got very accurate texturemapping inside and out...
who cares if its a dog. that will make it a great plane for the experts.
its all about looking good and flying and dying with style :D
wait you mean there is 2 or 3 modles that you are made for the p-39
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Originally posted by Kazaa
The problem is the fact that you are implying something that is clearly untrue, I'm very happy that HTC are about to add another aircraft to the game which I've esspeacially enjoyed playing for about the last 3 years. But clearly, if you read my post correctly, the point that I was trying to make was not one of "why bother" but "why not". Why not add a plane that will get more then its 15 minutes of fame and be enjoyed by many in the long run, only if the answer to my first question was true. "Will it be another hanger queen in the LWM".
The reason I deleted my first post was because I knew that I would never get my point across by saying "lol that made me laugh". Even if it was true, as you totally misconstrued what I said.
Right, I'm off to bed Guppy35, I will most likely read your very informative reply in the morning, which I will then attempt to reply back, but with my normal poor spelling and grammar. :aok
Ahh, my mistake. I thought long and hard before replying, cause it didn't sound like something you'd normally say.
I got thrown off by the "in all seriousness" part of the line :)
Dern English sarcasm going right over the top of me again. Not the first time and won't be the last no doubt:D
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Why not add a plane that will get more then its 15 minutes of fame and be enjoyed by many in the long run, only if the answer to my first question was true. "Will it be another hanger queen in the LWM".
The P39 will get more than 15min of fame. Something tells me you're going to get shot down by it more than a few times.
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Originally posted by Connery
ThndrEgg how do you define a top performance plane. You know as well as I do that ANY plane in the right hands can be as devastating as the next.
:)
I hear ya' there, as I have fought against some damn good sticks, such as those that know the P40. I'm simply saying for the ones that haven't stretched out to try the early rides, it's a real hoot when you finally land a couple kills in some relative piece of &$%* pea-shooter aircraft.:aok
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Originally posted by Citabria
the 3d model for the p39 is awsome. its got very accurate texturemapping inside and out...
who cares if its a dog.
Originally posted by splitatom
wait you mean there is 2 or 3 modles that you are made for the p-39
3D(imensional)
I guess you read like you post.
wrngway
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Originally posted by Shamus
Are we gonna be able to roll the window down and blast away with the .45?
shamus
No, you have to open the door on that bird. hehehe
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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im definetly gonna fly it. offline lol jk
:D
my question is ok it has a cannon in the nose some .50's
gun pod options, what kind of ord can this thing carry?
sounds like an awesome town killer right up there with nik and 110 maybe?
or is it just a fighter?
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I enjoy flying the less-than-uber aircraft. When its released, I'm going to take the P-39Q offline and explore its entire envelope. I'll record the data. Then, I'll take it to TA and wring it out against other trainers and some MA regulars. When I'm comfortable that I know everything there is to learn, I'll go to a LWA and make as many people as possible regret that HTC added it to the plane set.
AMEN! :aok
The p39 had x1 37mm cannon "hub"
x2 .50 cal "top nose"
x2 .30 in each wing.
Think of it as a faster, heavly armed and combat survivable p40.....on crack. >:)
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Originally posted by Widewing
I enjoy flying the less-than-uber aircraft. When its released, I'm going to take the P-39Q offline and explore its entire envelope. I'll record the data. Then, I'll take it to TA and wring it out against other trainers and some MA regulars. When I'm comfortable that I know everything there is to learn, I'll go to a LWA and make as many people as possible regret that HTC added it to the plane set.
It should have similar speed to the Bf 109F-4 on the deck, but will be in the top rankings at 9,000 feet where it will be as fast or faster than the Typhoon and P-47N. It will be significantly faster than the Spit XVI and F4U-1D. Its wing loading will be slightly lower than the Bf 109F-4, and it will climb at roughly the same rate as the Spit IX from sea level to 10k.
This fighter will get plenty of use, but it will be a demanding aircraft, keeping the numbers down to about those of the Yak-9T, Ki-61 and C.205.
My regards,
Widewing
Personally, I can't wait to see it in action, either, Ww.
It makes' me wonder about one thing, that's really funny about the game, and the community. In the LW, there are loads' of people who like to stay low and turnfight or stallfight (furball) all day long. From what i've read, the P-39 should fit right in with the kind of fight they are imagining. I'm wondering if it might have the effect on gameplay of either forcing the fight higher, possibly over 10k, or seeing an increase in the usage of planes' such as the Hurricane's, A6M's, Spit V's, and other 'super' turners' we have in the game.
I say this because nobody will want to HO it(It's got a 37mm o'death) and it's disadvantages will be either Higher alts, or something with better turning ability. I'm eagerly awaiting it, not just to fly it in scenario's, but to see what kind of impact it has on gameplay.
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As to the P39....it's a nice addition. It flew therefore it should be. (Think Shakespeare said that).
Any aircraft in the AH stable is very good no matter what arena one might be in if used to it's fullest capabilities. Heck even an Old Jug driver like me can get a doofus in an La7 on the deck.if he uses it wrong.
Clue.......only ask your aircraft to do something it can do......not what it can't. My personal fav is the Jug as most of you know. Guppy, Del, Lazs and a lot of others have personal favs also. So....guess what I'm saying is fly what you want. It's your 15 dollars and the way you play the game is your decision. I personally like a bit of a challenge, that's what makes the game fun for me. It might not be that way for others. I can't fault them for that.
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Originally posted by goober69
im definetly gonna fly it. offline lol jk
:D
my question is ok it has a cannon in the nose some .50's
gun pod options, what kind of ord can this thing carry?
sounds like an awesome town killer right up there with nik and 110 maybe?
or is it just a fighter?
The P-39 was supposed to be an interceptor, not a ground attack aircraft (which isn't to say it wasn't pressed into that role). The only thing I have seen regarding ordinance is reference to a single 500lb bomb.
With the limited ammunition to both the 37mm gun and the MGs, I don't see this being anywhere near the same league as the nik or 110 as a town killer.
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Whilst there would have been other aircraft I'd have chosen to add to the game purely for selfish reasons (109 G-14AS or G-10 :noid ) I think the P-39 will be a great addition to the game.
It's as ugly as a bucket of bums, to be sure, but it will be a fun and challenging aircraft to fly. I have no doubt that it will not be the most used aircraft but it will certainly be far from a 'hangar queen', much the same as the B-25 is.
The B-25 does not see the same useage as the likes of the B-24/17 and Lancaster but it certainly does get used and I see at least on in the air most days.
It is far from being a hangar queen. The B-25 H is great fun to go hammering away with that enormous bloody gun hanging out the front of it.... I see people trying to kill CVs with it all the time. I must say I've done the same thing myself and it's good fun. The B-25 has something different to offer as will the P-39. All in all I think it was a good choice.
High-alt 109s or Russian level-bombers next please.
:D
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Random thoughts...
As someone said in another post. I don't want to see any oil on my windscreen when the Allison behind me takes hits :)
The tater gun is supposed to have a very slow rate of fire with inferior ballistics compared to similar weapons of the era, but I guess it don't matter if the bad guy fills up the ring.
I was surprised by the fact that the P39 was a small plane. It also has a huge tail, I wonder how the rudder response will be?
I read that the climb rate was actually quite nice within it's optimum performance range.
Now if we can just get a Ki-43 Hayabusa, or a Ki-44 Shoki, or a Yak3, or an A-36 Apache, or a Bristol Beaufighter, or a D.520 (to laugh at), or a LaGG-3, or a J2M Raiden, or a ...