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Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: llama on February 01, 2008, 11:47:22 PM
Last time I was in the DA, the planes I was flying felt a little different. Maybe more sluggish or heavier, I guess.

Was it my imagination, or is the flight model different in the Dueling Arena than the Main Arenas?

I'm betting it's my imagination, but I might as well check and be sure...

-Llama
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: moot on February 02, 2008, 12:19:52 AM
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Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: RATTFINK on February 02, 2008, 12:24:27 AM
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Title: Re: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: 2bighorn on February 02, 2008, 12:30:36 AM
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Originally posted by llama
Last time I was in the DA, the planes I was flying felt a little different. Maybe more sluggish or heavier, I guess.

Was it my imagination, or is the flight model different in the Dueling Arena than the Main Arenas?

I'm betting it's my imagination, but I might as well check and be sure...

-Llama
Flight model is definately the same, but yes, sometimes, when jumping arenas, planes feel like they respond better and sometimes they feel, as you've said, sluggish.

Often it helps if you exit AH and restart the game, sometimes it doesn't.

Haven't figured if it's related to stick responsiveness, server lag, or some strange combination of the things, maybe even the USB.
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: Oleg on February 02, 2008, 12:44:15 AM
Its depends who you fight against, not in which arena you do.
When i fight rooky my plane fly smooth, turn tight and all bullets hit right in cockpit. When i fight vet my plane becomes harsh, unstable and heavy, and looks like i cannt hit a wall with 6x12.
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: RTR on February 02, 2008, 12:49:56 AM
Llama i was just in the DA tonight messing around with EW A/C.

All seemed normal to me. I've been here since jeebuz was a cowboy, and all the arena's have the same flight modelling.

cheers,
RTR
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: crockett on February 02, 2008, 01:01:54 AM
Fuel burn is at 1.0 in the DA..  MA is set to 2.0
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: E25280 on February 02, 2008, 01:34:34 AM
Be careful which bases you up from.  Some of the bases you already start at a decent altitude, which will make your plane seem sluggish if you are used to starting at sea level.
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: DoNKeY on February 02, 2008, 03:29:39 AM
Yes, as stated, the fuel burn rate is different, which will cause your a/c to retain more fuel over the same period of time and make it heavier.

donkey
Title: Re: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: lengro on February 02, 2008, 04:27:42 AM
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Originally posted by llama
Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?


very different - in MA planes seems to loose their turn ability, but becomes very good at dive and run... :furious
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: WMLute on February 02, 2008, 04:56:29 AM
The Flight Model/Setup in all the arenas are the same.

Even in AvA or Special Events we do not "tweak" with any flight settings.

As was already mentioned, in the DA you tend to only have 25% fuel and that does make the planes fly diff.

I too have had "issues" in various arenas where it "seemed" like I was flying underwater (best way to describe it, and it's quite rare that it happens) and that is usually fixed with a quick reboot and relog.  But THAT would be something on my end, or my connection, as opposed to any "setting" in the DA.
Title: Re: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: SlapShot on February 02, 2008, 07:38:40 AM
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Originally posted by llama
Last time I was in the DA, the planes I was flying felt a little different. Maybe more sluggish or heavier, I guess.

Was it my imagination, or is the flight model different in the Dueling Arena than the Main Arenas?

I'm betting it's my imagination, but I might as well check and be sure...

-Llama


I believe the FM is the same, but I know exactly what you are talking about, so we both share the same imagination.
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: Simaril on February 02, 2008, 07:55:06 AM
Personally, I find my plane flies much worse whenever I encounter a good pilot....
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: Shuffler on February 02, 2008, 08:45:15 AM
You failed to state what quadrant the normal suspect planets were in......
Title: Re: Re: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: B@tfinkV on February 02, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
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Originally posted by lengro
very different - in MA planes seems to loose their turn ability, but becomes very good at dive and run... :furious


 :lol
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: llama on February 02, 2008, 03:55:04 PM
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Originally posted by WMLute

I too have had "issues" in various arenas where it "seemed" like I was flying underwater (best way to describe it, and it's quite rare that it happens) and that is usually fixed with a quick reboot and relog.  But THAT would be something on my end, or my connection, as opposed to any "setting" in the DA.


Thanks guys. As you can see from my Avatar text, I've been around for a little while, and I've certainly been in the DA more times than I care to think about. Most recently, I was there last Wednesday, and again two days later, and every plane feeling like I was flying on Friday seemed like it really was "underwater" or something. Wednesday felt perfectly normal.

Next time I feel like something like oddis going on, I'll reboot. Thanks for the suggestion.

-Llama
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: Treize69 on February 02, 2008, 04:32:56 PM
Check the field altitude where you are fighting- I thought that for a long time when I used to go into the DA occasionally, until I noticed after one particularly horrendous engagement (P-40E vs Bf-109G) that the field alt was 10K. So we were starting the fight at 10K, and since we were both fighting close and dirty right above the ground, the alt never occured to us. We never noticed the ground was almost 2 miles up.
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: DmonSlyr on February 02, 2008, 04:53:13 PM
yea treize is right its the alt that makes it seem different. most of all your fights in the MA happen right on the deck. so when you go to the high alt fighting thats like 20k and your plane will ack/fly differently at higher alts. just try it you may notice a difference.
Title: Flight Model in DA is the same as MA, right?
Post by: llama on February 02, 2008, 07:25:55 PM
Fights on both days were both at med alt fields, so while both were a mile high, there were both at the same alt.

That said, I can see how the high ground can play tricks with the mind. I guess it could have had something to do with it too. Good idea.

-Llama