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Title: Digital Camera
Post by: WilldCrd on February 06, 2008, 01:24:36 PM
i have been wanting a lil didital camera for awhile now. A buddy told me that wally-world had some good deals so im headed there shorty to pick one up. Im trying to stay under $150. Its just a general use kinda camera not the really nice ones like some of you have.
Any suggestions would be much apreciated. im leaving in about an hour or so.
Laterzzz~
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Denholm on February 06, 2008, 01:28:11 PM
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665309150
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Nilsen on February 06, 2008, 01:46:14 PM
the one Denholm picked looks good

If you want to read up on a few there are plenty of reviews here so any model you may find has prolly been tested on this site
http://www.dpreview.com/
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Fulmar on February 06, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
http://www.dpreview.com

One of the very best review sites for all Digital cameras.  From SLR to $100 models.  Very in depth.

When looking at digital cameras, the two things I have to stress the most are make sure it had a good optical (not digital) zoom.  Digital zoom really lowers the quality of the photo.  Some cameras just have digital zoom which I would avoid like the plague, most have both.  If you need me to explain the difference more... I can.

Second, save yourself the grief and buy a camera that uses AA or AAA size batteries.  When I was in college I worked at Batteries Plus and camera manufacturers are horrible.  They will design rechargeable Li-ion battery packs that are specific to only a few models.  So when you're in a bind needing a battery right then and your batteries are dead, you up a creek.  You'll generally have to buy the batteries online.  Manufacturers are getting worse, most will not set on a standardized battery shape/size.  Our store carried about 30 of the most common sizes for digital cameras (Li-Ion packs that is) and its not funny how many times we'd have people come in for a wedding (that day) or graduation etc. and they needed a new battery.  Well if their camera took AA/AAA's or even a lesser common CRV3, they'd be okay.  However, a majority of camera out there take their own unique batteries.  Plus AA/AAA's come in rechargeable forms as well (plus they are cheaper) or the non-rechargeable lithium version.

Most of the Canon Powershots are good cameras.  My previous camera was one and it was pretty solid...only to be abused by some people I loaned it to and thus requiring me to get my new Fuji S8000fd.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Fishu on February 06, 2008, 02:48:05 PM
I prefer the Canon Ixus series. Recently obtained a new one to replace an older model. It's small, sturdy and accepts the same memory type as my bulkier camera accessory.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Vulcan on February 06, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
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Originally posted by Denholm
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665309150


Friend of mine recently brought an entry level sony cybershot, its a stinking pile of poo. It's comparable to those disposable noname digital camera's you see. I was quite shocked at how bad it was. It was plasticy, had little in the way of features/settings, and the photos it took were abysmal despite being a 7 megapixel cam.

Loving my casio exislim, it takes awesome pics for such a skilless photographers as myself :)

edit here's an example (trimmed for size) of a quick snapshot of my son:

(http://renaissance.xtreme.net.nz/ms/david.jpg)
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: eskimo2 on February 06, 2008, 03:41:36 PM
Sony is seriously overpriced!  Their memory cards often cost double what more competitive flash memory cards cost.  In general, you often pay 50% more for Sony stuff.  My school bought a Sony once, it was an overpriced dog.  It did not take good pictures.

Olympus has some serious faults as well.

Stick with Canon!
I’ve read a lot of reviews; canon consistently comes out on top.  You get a lot of bang for your buck.
Nikon also is very good, but their pocket cameras have one real drawback: movies are shot in QuickTime.

Staples had the SD1000 on sale for $160 last weekend.  I think you can find the A560 for about $150 as well.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: JB88 on February 06, 2008, 03:52:49 PM
canon.

trust me.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Meatwad on February 06, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
I have a Canon S3 1S

Excellent camera
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: WilldCrd on February 06, 2008, 05:22:26 PM
Well thanks for the replys guys. This is my first camera so i didnt want to really spend alot. Mainly just to get me started with taking pictures. Once i feel comfortable Ill move up to something with more features and abilities.
For now i just went with a kodak digital camera a C613. its a 6megapixel and has a few seemingly decent features. Again Im new to all this so I dont know whats godd and whats poo.....yet
I've actually figured out how to turn it on and ill snap off a few pics shortly and post em here.

Thanks again for all the input i appreciates it :cool:
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: sluggish on February 06, 2008, 08:46:24 PM
Bought my wife a Kodak Easy Share for Christmas.  It uses standard SD flash memory which is super cheap ($19.99 for 2 GB).  It's a 7.1 mp and is super easy and intuitive to use.  

I have to disagree with Fulmar about the batteries.  The Samsung that I demoed before purchasing the Kodak used AA's which would only last for 8 - 10 pictures when using the flash.  The Kodak battery has never failed (60 -70 pics without dying between charges)  and a replacement costs $19.99 (having a second one just in case is not a bad idea).  If you can get five years out of two batteries you'll probably be ready for a new camera.





CAMERA (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2916425&cp)

BATTERY (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2809036)
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Fulmar on February 06, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
Alkalines do not work well in digital cameras as they do not respond well to high drain applications unless the camera is specifically designed for use with alkalines.  For 95% of all digital cameras, when using non rechargeables, lithium is the only way to go.  But again it depends on the camera.  On my old Canon A70, lithiums could get me 300+ photos, alkalines, maybe 50.  On my new Fuji, I cannot use lithiums since their voltage is slightly higher than a normal alkaline.  so it was designed to be used with NiMh or Alkaline batteries.  And I can literally get 200-300 photos on alkalines on a camera that has a larger flash and a much larger LCD.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: texasmom on February 06, 2008, 10:32:12 PM
I've got a few Kodak easy shares also. I like them very much ~ because they're easy to use ~ not necessarily for 'quality' of the images.  Works for me though.

I've never paid much attention to battery span. It's a rechargable deal. When the battery dies, I plug it in. done.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Meatwad on February 06, 2008, 10:55:57 PM
The batteries I use are either the Energizer Industrial AA batteries or Energizer 2500 mAh rechargeables.

Both work really good and last a good while too.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: vorticon on February 06, 2008, 11:06:07 PM
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Originally posted by sluggish
Bought my wife a Kodak Easy Share for Christmas.  It uses standard SD flash memory which is super cheap ($19.99 for 2 GB).  It's a 7.1 mp and is super easy and intuitive to use.  

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from what i've heard, anything over 5MP in that kind of digital camera is pretty much a waste. you end up taking lower resolution pictures anyway. they get to be a pain in the bellybutton to adjust down to internet friendlyness and the hardware isnt really good enough for that high of a resolution...
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Nilsen on February 07, 2008, 01:19:59 AM
i have an older canon something with 3,2mp and that is really plenty for everyday photos. the sensors and optics of compact cameras are too small and limited for anything over 5.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Vulcan on February 07, 2008, 01:57:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
i have an older canon something with 3,2mp and that is really plenty for everyday photos. the sensors and optics of compact cameras are too small and limited for anything over 5.


I dunno, my is a 6, and look at that piccie, the original full 6mp version is just beautiful. And thats a shoot from the hip style snapshot. Don't underestimate compact camera's, I think they get a bad rep for the bad apples in the bunch.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Nilsen on February 07, 2008, 02:07:46 AM
Ofcourse there are exceptions, but in general i still say that the sensor size and optics become the limiting factor, and not the ammount of mega pixels.

Im looking forward to testing the Fujifilm S100fd when my local supplier gets it. Not compact or very cheap but it has 14x optical zoom and and a 2/3 sensor. My DSLR camera takes great pictures but im tired of hauling it around with the extra 2 lenses so if its not too horribly priced ill get that camera and sell my DSLR. I want range and quality without having to carry the extra lenses. If i have to take a SLIGHTY lower quality the tradeoff will be worth it.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: JB88 on February 07, 2008, 04:04:39 PM
or you could just get a lens with a fuller focal range nilsen.  a 28 - 135 should cover most of what you need.

what kind of DSLR you got?
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: john9001 on February 07, 2008, 04:13:56 PM
the Canon PowerShot SD850 is a nice sub-compact, but it is about $230-240. I think i might get as a carry around pocket camera.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Denholm on February 07, 2008, 05:00:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Vulcan
Friend of mine recently brought an entry level sony cybershot, its a stinking pile of poo...

The one I bought for my sister works great. I'm amazed at some of the quality shots it takes. There's multiple amounts of cybershot cameras, not certain which one her's is (Although I bought it).:rolleyes:
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Masherbrum on February 07, 2008, 05:05:13 PM
I have a Fuji.   Love it, although I like the Canon's as well.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Fulmar on February 07, 2008, 05:29:20 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
The batteries I use are either the Energizer Industrial AA batteries
 

The only difference between the "Industrial" and the regular consumer model is:  packaging

Industrial batteries are generally sold in bulk quantities and labeled "Industrial" for mainly commercial sales.  Our Batteries Plus catalog showed the mah rating of the alkaline products we carried and the Industrial and Consumer versions were both rated the same for Duracell and their Procell, Energizers and its industrial, and Rayovac and its Industrial.

The mah ratings between the big three only vary around 100-200mah, which is pretty small.  When people asked me which was the best, I told them, buy whichever is on sale.  30 cents a AA is a pretty good deal.  20 cents is a steal.  50-75 cents is about average pricing.  Cost to stores was generally between 15 and 20 cents a battery for bulk packaging.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: GtoRA2 on February 07, 2008, 06:05:26 PM
Look into Kodaks point and shoot digitals, I have owned 3 they have all been very nice and easy to use.

I wouldn't pay the extra cost on the low end models for the Canon or sony name.

I currently have the p880 "prosumer" model.

It got a pretty good review on the site Fulmar listed but its a bit out of your price range, but it has been a GREAT cam.
Title: Digital Camera
Post by: Nilsen on February 08, 2008, 01:00:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
or you could just get a lens with a fuller focal range nilsen.  a 28 - 135 should cover most of what you need.

what kind of DSLR you got?


Ya i could. I will see how much that Fuji is gonna cost when it gets to the store and what quality it is.

its a Nikon D50