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Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Bosch232 on February 07, 2008, 06:31:32 PM
Kind of a newbie question..

Can you kill softer town buildings by strafing them from the air?  Let's say I've wiped out 90% of the buildings in a town with a bomber.  Can I drop down and finish off the rest with my .50 cal's?

Or is this a labor-intensive (or ineffective) endeavor?
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: DoNKeY on February 07, 2008, 06:35:08 PM
Yes you can take out town buildings with .50 cals.  If you're going to be using your bombers, it will depend on how many guns you can get on whatever building your shooting at, but in general you can take out a town building with a three second burst, something like that, or at least that's what it is like for me in a fighter.

donkey
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Lusche on February 07, 2008, 06:36:18 PM
Yes, you can kill town buildings by strafing. They dont even need to be soft.

An undamaged town building requires approximately 250 .50 cal hits.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Spikes on February 07, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
You can kill buildings with 50cals. They don't have to be soft at all. Most people use a 110 to kill a town building though, much more effective with the 20mm/30mm combo though.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Getback on February 08, 2008, 01:39:55 PM
Yes you can and is in fact a common tactic and yet not preferred. Once caught 3 sets of b24s straffing a town in my handy dandy osty. What fun!!
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: BaldEagl on February 08, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
You can kill any ground object by straffing.  I've killed VH's several times with the .50's in an F6F-5, although it takes just about every round.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Castedo on February 11, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
You can kill any ground object by straffing.  I've killed VH's several times with the .50's in an F6F-5, although it takes just about every round.


Are you sure? a hangar takes almost all amonition of a 190-A8 with 30 mm cannons.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Lusche on February 11, 2008, 05:26:20 PM
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Originally posted by Castedo
Are you sure? a hangar takes almost all amonition of a 190-A8 with 30 mm cannons.


A8's 30mm are potent, but have not much ammunition.


A VH takes approximately 2800lbs of ordonance.
A .50 cal bullet is worth 1.17 lbs vs. structures - you do the math ;)
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: BaldEagl on February 11, 2008, 07:04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Castedo
Are you sure? a hangar takes almost all amonition of a 190-A8 with 30 mm cannons.


Yes, I've been doing it for years.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: uberslet on February 12, 2008, 06:12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Lusche
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A VH takes approximately 2800lbs of ordonance.
A .50 cal bullet is worth 1.17 lbs vs. structures - you do the math ;) [/B]
lusche, may i ask how you know so much sir?
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Vipper65 on February 12, 2008, 06:15:47 AM
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Originally posted by uberslet
lusche, may i ask how you know so much sir?


Obviously he's edumicated.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Rolex on February 12, 2008, 06:31:29 AM
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Originally posted by uberslet
lusche, may i ask how you know so much sir?


The best resource in all of Aces High may be the trainers site. The link is in my signature. Also, Lusche doesn't seem to have any fear about exploring the game or the resources available.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Castedo on February 12, 2008, 12:28:35 PM
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Originally posted by uberslet
lusche, may i ask how you know so much sir?


2.393 ish bullets
2.400 x 1.17 = ish ( it is enough)

30 mm =  0.50 x 2 = 20 mm x 2 = 30 mm ish

how much in lbs is the 30mm?
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Castedo on February 12, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
A8's 30mm are potent, but have not much ammunition.


A VH takes approximately 2800lbs of ordonance.
A .50 cal bullet is worth 1.17 lbs vs. structures - you do the math ;)


Just checked, according to to trainners  pages it taked 3.100 lbs Fh, Bh, Vh.

2.400 x 1.17 would not be enough
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Lusche on February 12, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
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Originally posted by Castedo
Just checked, according to to trainners  pages it taked 3.100 lbs Fh, Bh, Vh.

2.400 x 1.17 would not be enough


The trainers page do use the ame table HTC provides us in the Help Section. The 3x 1000lbs is a rounded value for bombing, putting that much on target ensures destruction.
However, if you go offline you can check the exact values yourself. Options-Arena Setup-Objects-Object Settings. You will find that a hangar has a hardness (1000lbs bombs) of  2.7812. And MA settings are running at that default value.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Lusche on February 12, 2008, 01:27:02 PM
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Originally posted by Rolex
The best resource in all of Aces High may be the trainers site. The link is in my signature. Also, Lusche doesn't seem to have any fear about exploring the game or the resources available.


That pretty much nails it. I simply read everything on netaces.org and in the Help Section of AH homepage (there was no trainer's site back then).
After that, everytime I wondered about things (and I often do, I'm very curious by nature) I thoroughly searched the BBS for answers (damn that three-letter restriction!). And when I don't get them, I tend to try things to see how/why they work the way they do...
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: BaldEagl on February 12, 2008, 01:43:56 PM
BTW, If Luches #'s are right (I'm sure they are) the 6x.50's x400rpg in the F6F-5 = 2808 lbs vs 2781 needed to take down a hanger.  Close, but doable (I did say it took nearly every round).
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Castedo on February 12, 2008, 02:39:50 PM
still dont know how much lbs for 20 mm and 30 mm.

Also, although I cannot prove it, I some times wonder if the values are the same for every player.
This is what I mean, I find rondar hard to kill in gvs, it takes me about 3 hits for a kill.  With Dr7 I get a kill with single hit, some of them near misses or on the tracks.  Rondar killed me me with the pintle of a sherman, I was in spit 1, with very few pings.  The spit just exploded.  Just two examples with names  but same thing with others players.  Dont know if lag, computer or something does not effect lethality of weapons.  No ofense to rondar or dr7.  It is just a feeling.
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Lusche on February 12, 2008, 02:40:33 PM
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Originally posted by Castedo
still dont know how much lbs for 20 mm and 30 mm.



http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/
Title: Strafing Question
Post by: Castedo on February 12, 2008, 02:49:37 PM
Under what title, I cannot find it.
Found it, ty