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Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: rpm on February 08, 2008, 12:35:32 AM
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CARROLLTON, Texas (AP) — A defendant in the Louisiana "Jena Six" case was arrested on suspicion of slamming a student's head into a bench at his new school in Texas, police said.

Bryant R. Purvis, 19, was arrested on a charge of assault causing bodily injury Wednesday after an altercation at Hebron High School. It began because Purvis believed a student had flattened his tires, Sgt. John Singleton said.

Purvis was released from jail Thursday morning.

According to a police report, the student felt Purvis come behind him and "grab his neck with one hand and begin to choke him."  Mr. Purvis, one of the black teens known as the Jena Six, was accused of choking and pushing Christopher Jones because he believed Mr. Jones had vandalized his car.  

Purvis then said, "Don't you ever mess with my car again" and slammed the student's head into the bench of a table and walked away, the report said. The student's left eye was injured, but Singleton didn't know whether he needed medical attention after seeing the school nurse.

School district declined to comment.

Purvis' mother, Tina Jones, told the Alexandria Daily Town Talk newspaper that she wished her son could avoid such situations.

"I understand he gets frustrated," she said. "But he needed to walk away from this situation, being that he's already in a situation. It's very frustrating and upsetting to have to go through so much."
Those danged situations....(http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02-08/0207purvis.jpg)
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: JB88 on February 08, 2008, 04:48:37 AM
take him out back and take a brick to his head.

done.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Curval on February 08, 2008, 05:00:03 AM
Just playing devil's advocate....did the kid flatten his tires?

"It began because Purvis believed a student had flattened his tires"
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: JB88 on February 08, 2008, 05:10:24 AM
still isnt a good reason to slam anyones head against anything when you are already a known attacker.

dumbarse he is.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Curval on February 08, 2008, 05:31:10 AM
But assuming his attack was unprovoked is *good reason* enough to take him out back and take a brick to his head?
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: BBBB on February 08, 2008, 05:33:41 AM
This is not the first or second time he has had an issue with his "anger". Prior to that whole Jena mess he already had shaken assault charges. Maybe third time is the charm and they finally send this one where he belongs. Then lets see how long it takes him to go from "Bryant" to "Brenda".
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: JB88 on February 08, 2008, 05:39:33 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
But assuming his attack was unprovoked is *good reason* enough to take him out back and take a brick to his head?


i am being flip about it granted, but the kid needs to be removed from the general population if he can't keep his watermelon cool.

put him away for a long time.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Joe Republican on February 08, 2008, 05:48:14 AM
Poor Bryant... he needs a smootchie to make it all better.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: john9001 on February 08, 2008, 07:39:40 AM
but his momma say he a good boy.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Xargos on February 08, 2008, 07:41:37 AM
He is a good boy, he only beats up white kids.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2008, 08:09:59 AM
I think you guys would have more compassion for a pit bull that is abused and lashes out at people. There is no excuse for violence, but maybe we should look at the reasons for his anger too. Just for future refernce and all.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: john9001 on February 08, 2008, 08:14:05 AM
he was oppressed for 400 years?
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: BBBB on February 08, 2008, 08:15:02 AM
It doesn't matter, just because you are pissed off, does not give you the right to beat the hell out of another person. We are not talking about an eight year old who got pissed and hit his sister and tagged her one. We are talking about a person that has a history of engaging in these types of acts.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: JBA on February 08, 2008, 08:22:55 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I think you guys would have more compassion for a pit bull that is abused and lashes out at people. There is no excuse for violence, but maybe we should look at the reasons for his anger too. Just for future refernce and all.
Yes like no fathers at home,  72% illegitimacy within the black community,  kids having kids. And the likes of racist like the Jackson and Sharpton, refusing to put the blame were it belongs. Squarely on the blacks them selves.
 I seem to remember Malcolm X commanding the black males to go out and have kids in order to put tress on the white community ,  How’s that working out for you now?
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Curval on February 08, 2008, 08:56:07 AM
Or maybe a bunch of kids give him a whole pile of grief over the whole Jenna 6 episode and one kid actually went as far as to let the air out of his tires.

Doing so to a person who has a history of violent acts ain't so smart either right?

It might not be the case I admit, but lets bash his skulll with a virtual brick without even considering it.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: lazs2 on February 08, 2008, 08:58:28 AM
MT is correct... I have more compassion for a pit bull who lashes out.   they are acting according to their nature with ability to reason.

the person in question has just gone feral for despite the ability to reason.

lazs
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 08, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
You do have to ask why his tires were flatten.  Given this guy's past history (including SEVERAL assault charges SINCE the jena 6 event), I don't think the tire slashing itself is unprovoked.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Larry on February 08, 2008, 09:10:14 AM
If the guy who slashed the tires is white then he'll be screaming that tire slashing is a racist act and he should get life in prison. Thats the ONLY way sharpton or jackson will say anything about this.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: lazs2 on February 08, 2008, 09:14:38 AM
wait.. I see a pattern here...

He beats up one white kid by being part of a pack of 6..

He beats another by coming up behind the guy with no warning and grabbing the guy in a choke hold.

He seems to be a racist guilty of hate crimes.  A cowardly one at that..  he probly is just afraid of white people and has some racial preconcieved notions about white guys.

lazs
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: SOB on February 08, 2008, 09:29:19 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I think you guys would have more compassion for a pit bull that is abused and lashes out at people. There is no excuse for violence, but maybe we should look at the reasons for his anger too. Just for future refernce and all.

Animals are supposed to act like animals.  I expect more from humans (and am often disappointed).
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Engine on February 08, 2008, 09:50:12 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
He seems to be a racist guilty of hate crimes.  A cowardly one at that..  he probly is just afraid of white people and has some racial preconcieved notions about white guys.
In both cases it looks like he was responding to threats, insults, and property damage... not initiating. That makes him a racist?

He may very well be one... I'm just trying to judge by events and not guess what his motivations are.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Maverick on February 08, 2008, 10:13:23 AM
Unless there is another article about this that has not been linked yet I'd like to point out a couple things.

No where in the article does it identify the skin color of the person who was assaulted. There is no indication that this is race related on either side of the situation.

No where in the article does it state that the tires were slashed, just flattened.

No where in the article does it state that there is proof, a witness or other evidence that the person who was assaulted was responsible for flattening the tires, just that purvis "thinks" the kid he beat up on did.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Xargos on February 08, 2008, 10:30:41 AM
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No where in the article does it identify the skin color of the person who was assaulted.


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The Texas case had nothing to do with race, Singleton said.


The cop would never have stated that if the victim was black.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Curval on February 08, 2008, 10:40:30 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
No where in the article does it state that there is proof, a witness or other evidence that the person who was assaulted was responsible for flattening the tires, just that purvis "thinks" the kid he beat up on did.


Correct.  But it doesn't say he wasn't responsible either, which is the point I was making.  It says:

"...he believed Mr. Jones had vandalized his car."

The article gives the impression that it was an unprovoked attack but is silent on the facts.  Right?
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Maverick on February 08, 2008, 01:50:13 PM
Xargos,

That is an assumption on your part that is not supported by the article. Another way to look at that statement is that if both parties are black, certainly race is not an issue.

Curval,

An allegation is not proof. As I stated earlier, there is no information that the individual assaulted was in fact responsible for the tires being flattened. It may well be an unsupported and inaccurate assumption on the part of purvis. Even if it is true, committing an assault is not the appropriate response is it?
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: vorticon on February 08, 2008, 02:05:10 PM
i fail to see where race comes into this...

doesnt matter who they are, what happened could have just as easily happened in any high shool...
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: lazs2 on February 08, 2008, 02:09:32 PM
yep.. would be nice to leave race out of it...

If you attack anyone with six other guys.. it matters not what your motive was.. it is a crime of cowardice and assault.

If you attack someone from behind with a choke hold then slam their head into a bench it is a crime of cowardice and assault.

I think race should not be involved in any crime.. I do not think "hate crimes" should exist...only crime.

lazs
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: DYNAMITE on February 08, 2008, 02:25:10 PM
don't worry... Sharpton will save him :rolleyes:

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z110/mercer2789/sharpton_matrix.gif)

I've been waiting to use ^^^ for weeks hehehe
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Curval on February 08, 2008, 02:40:53 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Curval,

An allegation is not proof. As I stated earlier, there is no information that the individual assaulted was in fact responsible for the tires being flattened. It may well be an unsupported and inaccurate assumption on the part of purvis. Even if it is true, committing an assault is not the appropriate response is it?


Sigh...I agree that an allegation is not proof and have said so.  Those here who have assumed that it was an unprovoked attack are basing that on unsupported and possibly inaccurate assumptions also...CORRECT?

It is absolutely not the appropriate response either...again I agree with you, but it might help to EXPLAIN the response rather than simply assuming it was unprovoked and that he is an animal.

He may well be a complete idiot and an a-hole.  I don't know...do you?  Or are you making assumptions based on news stories?

Dynamite...LOL!!!!
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: RedTop on February 08, 2008, 04:09:16 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I think you guys would have more compassion for a pit bull that is abused and lashes out at people. There is no excuse for violence, but maybe we should look at the reasons for his anger too. Just for future refernce and all.



Yes Yes....We should try to understand his plight....

What we need to be asking here is why is this young man troubled.....what causes this anger.....Was he abused...are there any positive influences i this young mans life...how can we as a scociety take responsibility for his actions and completely not let him be held accountable. How can we make excuses for his dumb friking decisions and not giving 2 chits about what he does becuase he knows he'll get off....

Your a good guy MT.....but people are responsible for thier actions.....He knows right from wrong and doesn't care. He'll get off again....and we know why.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: midnight Target on February 08, 2008, 04:12:58 PM
Holding him responsible and looking for the root cause of his anger are NOT mutually exclusive ideas.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: RedTop on February 08, 2008, 04:16:33 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Holding him responsible and looking for the root cause of his anger are NOT mutually exclusive ideas.


I agree....but....today it doesnt seem to work this way very often IMHO.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: Maverick on February 08, 2008, 08:00:51 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Sigh...I agree that an allegation is not proof and have said so.  Those here who have assumed that it was an unprovoked attack are basing that on unsupported and possibly inaccurate assumptions also...CORRECT?

It is absolutely not the appropriate response either...again I agree with you, but it might help to EXPLAIN the response rather than simply assuming it was unprovoked and that he is an animal.

He may well be a complete idiot and an a-hole.  I don't know...do you?  Or are you making assumptions based on news stories?

Dynamite...LOL!!!!


Curval,

I think if you look at it again, neither of my posts are based on assumptions. I was pointing out that quite a bit has been posted that is not supported by the article in question.

Unless the individual was responding to an attack, physical force is not warranted, certainly not jumping someone from behind.

I also did not refer to the individual as an animal, idiot or a-hole. I believe I refered to him by his name as mentioned in the article.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: lazs2 on February 09, 2008, 09:47:30 AM
pretty hard to have a high opinion of someone who would participate in a gang beating of one person by 6.

there are situations where this would be perfectly acceptable but our feral friend  and his cohorts do not fit this category..   it isn't like they were attacking a skyjacker or robber or rapist.  in fact.. it was far more likely that they would fit into those categories.    I would have to see their records of course tho to make that claim but the stats are on my side.

lazs
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: culero on February 09, 2008, 09:55:39 AM
{devilsadvocate}
Completely aside from who this guy is and what the merits are in this instance....

IMO, if you flatten someone's tires, and the result is that person giving you an asswhooping, you have no complaint.

I also do not believe in "fighting fair". Anyone who has an asswhooping coming doesn't necessarily deserve a chance to fight back.
{/devilsadvocate}

Just saying.
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2008, 10:04:32 AM
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z110/mercer2789/sharpton_matrix.gif)  [/B][/QUOTE]
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Somebody Alert Al Sharpton!!!
Post by: lazs2 on February 09, 2008, 11:53:37 AM
cuero..  Do you really think that 6 on one is ok?   Do you think attacking someone from behind that you did not ever see do anything to you is right?

Even if you do believe that any slight is good enough reason to gather up 6 buddies and jump someone..   or.. that if you suspect someone of slashing your tires.. you should be able to ambush him....

The law does not..  believe me.. it is hard enough to get out of an assault charge (least used to be) if you fight fair but win..  "excessive force"  "intent to cause grave bodily injury" believe me.   even if attacked.

lazs