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Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Guppy35 on February 10, 2008, 01:41:59 AM
Finished the night with some formation landing practice with Mensa.  Thought I'd share some of my technique with the crowd in the hopes of helping others become better at putting their 38s down with style.

Note the smooth approach, flaps and gear out, curving in on final.  Mensa looks a bit off in the background....but then again....it's Mensa.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Final.jpg)

Understand I'm trying to talk Mensa through this, and Soulyss is in the tower offering advice as well, but he's young and wants to go his own way....literally.  Note I'm down nicely, center of the runway.  Not sure what Mensa is doing.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Crossover.jpg)

Now that I'm down and centered, it's time for me to finish up.  Note the smooth extention of the right wing, into the runway at about 45 degrees.  This sets up the rest of the landing roll.  Mensa is apparently trying to correct, but I'm afraid it's too late.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/WingDig.jpg)

Continuing on, I lit a fire in hopes of giving Mensa something to guide in on.  My landing roll continues.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Nosedown.jpg)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Guppy35 on February 10, 2008, 01:42:46 AM
Now this is where I added a bit of style to the roll.  Note I've gotten airborne again as I 'tuck' the nose under.  This shows the sign of a real veteran on the landing roll.  Again, I'm not sure what Mensa is doing, but I'm hoping he'll get better at this.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Jump.jpg)

Pay close attention to this part of the landing roll.  Synchronized rudder removal is a sure sign of a veteran 38 pilot.  It allows for a smoother surface to the 38 as the pilot completes his landing.  As you can see by his 38 in the background, Mensa will need continued work on this.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Rudders.jpg)

Finally down and safe, center of the runway.  The key is knowing when to kick the rudder and dig in the wingtip.  You too, in time can land a 38 as well as this.  But don't dispair.  It's taken me years of practice to reach this level of ability:aok
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Finish.jpg)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Stang on February 10, 2008, 01:49:00 AM
:D

:aok
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: SD67 on February 10, 2008, 02:10:13 AM
Absolutely First Class!:aok
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Hazard69 on February 10, 2008, 02:31:49 AM
Brought tears to my eyes......:cry :cry :cry


Btw, what resolution n tex size u using? My skins never look so good.
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Tumor on February 10, 2008, 02:41:56 AM
I can only hope and dream to be so good one day :)

:aok
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on February 10, 2008, 05:46:38 AM
You sir are my hero, from now on i want to be JUST like you!
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Bosco123 on February 10, 2008, 07:13:34 AM
Watch out, you guys are dangerous!:D
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Hajo on February 10, 2008, 07:55:46 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Houston!  We have a problem!
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Wmaker on February 10, 2008, 08:12:49 AM
LOL! This made my sunday! :)

Thanks Guppy! :)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: DoNKeY on February 10, 2008, 10:29:32 AM
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: trotter on February 10, 2008, 10:43:52 AM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Continuing on, I lit a fire in hopes of giving Mensa something to guide in on.  My landing roll continues.


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Speed55 on February 10, 2008, 10:45:27 AM
:lol

Awesome, where do i sign up????!!!!
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Spikes on February 10, 2008, 10:49:29 AM
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Originally posted by Speed55
:lol

Awesome, where do i sign up????!!!!


First you need to show us that you can't aim, can't kill, suck at landing, and can fly the bomber. :D
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Speed55 on February 10, 2008, 10:50:50 AM
RGR.. i'll run a few sorties and post some pictures when i get a chance. :aok
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Shamus on February 10, 2008, 11:30:51 AM
Great job Corky, you saved the gear :)

shamus
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: daddog on February 10, 2008, 11:36:27 AM
:)
That was good. :)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 10, 2008, 11:42:59 AM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Great job Corky, you saved the gear :)

shamus


Tires are in very short supply, due to the rubber shortage. There's a war on you know.
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: RAS on February 10, 2008, 01:01:53 PM
Ya....what Hazard69 said,"what resolution n tex size u using? My skins never look so good."

Those are nice peeeetures.

RASCAL
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: SunBat on February 10, 2008, 01:09:50 PM
LOL, funny!  Having Mensa in the back ground of each shot was a very nice touch, btw.
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Husky01 on February 10, 2008, 01:13:26 PM
:lol
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Rich46yo on February 10, 2008, 02:18:42 PM
:lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl  I loved it. Sitting in M-16s along runways Ive seen some amazing landings but I dont think Ive ever seen one that good.
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Gianlupo on February 10, 2008, 03:14:52 PM
:lol Thank you, Corky... absolutely brilliant! :)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Raptor on February 11, 2008, 03:11:42 AM
SAPP XO Preparing to Taxi to the hangar
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3150/landingob4.jpg)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Guppy35 on February 11, 2008, 03:52:09 AM
Do note that Raptor is showing great skill in completing his landing roll with the drop tanks still on.  This is the sign of a true veteran P38 pilot.  Also note that the rudders are missing as are both wings outside of the engines and he too has lit the fire as a guide for any other 38s looking to get home.
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Charge on February 11, 2008, 04:42:02 AM
Looks like a ballet class ending with mangled ankles.

So awful -but somehow so unbelievably artistic it almost looks beautiful.

-C+
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Gianlupo on February 11, 2008, 05:54:27 AM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Do note that Raptor is showing great skill in completing his landing roll with the drop tanks still on.  This is the sign of a true veteran P38 pilot.  Also note that the rudders are missing as are both wings outside of the engines and he too has lit the fire as a guide for any other 38s looking to get home.


WTG Rap! :aok
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: flatiron1 on February 11, 2008, 05:57:59 AM
you have landed successfully!!!!
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: gusman on February 11, 2008, 09:28:54 AM
You have made my Monday morning :rofl :rofl

Thank you!

gusman44
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Brooke on February 11, 2008, 03:02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Now this is where I added a bit of style to the roll.  Note I've gotten airborne again as I 'tuck' the nose under.  This shows the sign of a real veteran on the landing roll.  Again, I'm not sure what Mensa is doing, but I'm hoping he'll get better at this.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Jump.jpg)



This is most excellent -- note from the tire smoke trails that Mensa's P-38 is travelling backward in this shot, hopping on one tire.  This is masterful -- perhaps even beyond the skill of Tony LeVier.  The maneuver definitely needs its own name, maybe something like the "Iron Lotus".
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Hajo on February 11, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
In my opinion even Fred  and Ginger could have done no better!

Well done Lads!
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Squire on February 11, 2008, 06:17:45 PM
What insurance rates are you paying for that P-38G now Guppy? ;)
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 11, 2008, 06:51:29 PM
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Originally posted by Squire
What insurance rates are you paying for that P-38G now Guppy? ;)


We do not insure his birds. When he signs a bird out, it is from the "write off" list. We have our own special "write off" lists printed, on one side they have the serial number of the plane, and on the other side they have his name printed, he just initials the pre-printed signature, and off he goes. Not visible in the screen shots are the letters "WW" stenciled on various parts of the plane (usually because he has already had those parts shot off, or knocked them off himself).
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: SgtPappy on February 11, 2008, 08:46:17 PM
Dan, you've done it again.
:rofl
Title: How to land a P38 SAPP Style
Post by: stickpig on February 13, 2008, 05:13:46 AM
This is great stuff... Keep'em coming