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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: sluggish on February 10, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
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Hitlery has been calling for the release of the Michigan delegates and it looks now like she may get her way. This is after the primary where most of the Dem candidates didn't even campaign because they knew the delegates didn't count. Now Hilley says she should get the delegates because she won by a 60% margin to "undecided". You won't find this in the press unless you look very hard. If I were Obama I would be pitching a fit.
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and this surprises you?
billary will win the dem nom by hook, crook ... she has it in the bag with the "super" delegates
just hope black america sees her for what she is at that point and jumps on the rep wagon come Nov .. but something tells me they'll just smile and vote for the hag anyways
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I might not even vote. Both parties suck arse. Not to mention the cheek nipples of a Governor. Take the Mayor of Detroit who text'd messages to his "now stepped down Assistant" after banging her and lying under Oath in 2003 about it.
This State is just a shell of what I remember it being.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
This State is just a shell of what I remember it being.
Isn't that a fact. We're now charging 6% tax on intangibles (services)... It's the lib answer to everything: Raise taxes. The way things are right now no business in their right mind would come to this state. If I could get out from under this mortgage I'd be long gone.
Isn't it funny how Hilley is basically trying to steal delegates right out in the open and no one is saying anything about it?
*I'd really love to hear a hilley supporter's rationalization of this behavior.
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Gotta ask AquaShrimp if she can pull her head out of her biology textbooks long enough to answer you.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I might not even vote. Both parties suck arse.
Yeah, that's where I'm at. Rush Limbaugh appears to be there too.
I cannot believe there is such a large gimmie crowd.
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Anyone else hear that sucking sound? (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4269776)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Anyone else hear that sucking sound? (http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4269776)
it's all a ploy so that when she wins, she looks like some sorta of come back kid hero .. she has it in the bag regardless of how the media spins it
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Originally posted by Getback
Yeah, that's where I'm at. Rush Limbaugh appears to be there too.
I cannot believe there is such a large gimmie crowd.
rush is a tool.
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billary will have osamabama kneecapped by some thugs if he gets anymore delegates.. probly already threatened to kill his family.
she makes chenney seem like a kindly uncle.
lazs
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LOL... Did Hillary beat some of you up in grade school or something?
She won Michigan, and Florida. She didn't campaign there any more or less than anyone else. The Democratic party somehow feels it is OK to disenfranchise these 2 States just because they wanted to pick an earlier date for their primary. If I lived in MI or FL I'd be screaming to allow my delegates to vote.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
LOL... Did Hillary beat some of you up in grade school or something?
She won Michigan, and Florida. She didn't campaign there any more or less than anyone else. The Democratic party somehow feels it is OK to disenfranchise these 2 States just because they wanted to pick an earlier date for their primary. If I lived in MI or FL I'd be screaming to allow my delegates to vote.
But she DID campaign here. Obama never even came. Niether did Edwards. They skipped it because the dems are punishing Mi for moving up their primary. This is downright scandalous and since you've got a big woody for her you're going to say "oh it's no big deal."
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Plus, she won against "undecided." Kusinich (sic) got like 3%. I can't believe the dem voters who would vote for hilley just because their guy wasn't on the ballot.
The vote was-
clinton 60%
undecided 36%
cusinich 4%
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why isn't al sharpton complaining about the delegates from those states being "disenfranchised"?
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Don't forget that the Repub Party killed 50% of the Repub Delegates as punishment.
• Michigan lost all 156 of its Democratic delegates for allocating delegates outside of the Democratic National Committee-approved timeframe.
• Michigan lost 30 of its 60 Republican delegates for allocating delegates outside of the Republican National Committee-approved timeframe.
I hear talk that they won't use the Democratic Primary results because 'not all the candidates were on the ballot'. I believe it was their choice not to be on the ballot -- so they lose, in my opinion.
I hear talk that they won't just drop Michigan -- how fair is that (hey, our Gov. broke the rules, which means we broke the rules, which means we should pay -- no seating at the Dem Convention).
Then I hear they might have a 'do-over' and do a Caucus to replace the Primary results. Huh? Vote twice? WTF is a Caucus anyways. That's not even voting, is it?
If I voted in the Repub primary, can I vote in the Dem caucus? Are the Repubs going to have a do-over and do a Caucus too? Do I get to vote ten times? Who the hell is paying for all this?
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The whole notion of "superdelagates" flies in the face of democracy, the very thing Hillbillary claims to support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate
........By contrast, the superdelegates are seated based solely on their status as current or former elected officeholders and party officials.......
.......At the 2008 Democratic National Convention, the superdelegates will compose approximately one-fifth of the total number of delegates.......
....... In 2008, Senator Joe Lieberman was disqualified as a superdelegate because he endorsed Republican John McCain.....
list of superdelagates here
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
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Originally posted by john9001
why isn't al sharpton complaining about the delegates from those states being "disenfranchised"?
Their not black enough?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
LOL... Did Hillary beat some of you up in grade school or something?
She won Michigan, and Florida. She didn't campaign there any more or less than anyone else. The Democratic party somehow feels it is OK to disenfranchise these 2 States just because they wanted to pick an earlier date for their primary. If I lived in MI or FL I'd be screaming to allow my delegates to vote.
I live in FL... and I did not vote due to our delegates not being seated. It was understood prior to the election that it was not going to happen...ON both sides.
To now challenge it and try to change it because Obama is starting to kick your teeth in is reprehensible. I've said it before, I will not vote for Clinton if she's the only name on the ticket in the general election.
She represents the "old guard"..... do whatever you can to whoever you can to get elected. She just added in the "Cry alot" component. If I was a female in this country, I would be ashamed.
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Originally posted by JBA
The whole notion of "superdelagates" flies in the face of democracy...
I agree... but it's not that different than the Electoral College.
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Originally posted by Sandman
I agree... but it's not that different than the Electoral College.
you would not say that if you knew the reason for the Electoral College, but I'm not going to waste my time explaining it.
As i have to do every four years.
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Originally posted by john9001
you would not say that if you knew the reason for the Electoral College, but I'm not going to waste my time explaining it.
As i have to do every four years.
I do know the reason. I disagree with it.
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Originally posted by sluggish
... and since you've got a big woody for her you're going to say "oh it's no big deal."
RPM didn't have the obsessive compulsion to join in on the gradeschool namecalling whinefest torch-n-pitchfork daisy-chain but called it such so he's got the wood?
Heh.
Keep that up and you'll go blind. Wait ... too late. :D
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"gradeschool namecalling whinefest torch-n-pitchfork daisy-chain."
arlo, where do you come up with this stuff? :lol
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Originally posted by john9001
"gradeschool namecalling whinefest torch-n-pitchfork daisy-chain."
arlo, where do you come up with this stuff? :lol
Observation, `ol boy. :D
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Please explain why it's alright for hilley to get the Michigan delegates after they were suposed to be denied and she was the only one to campaign there.
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Originally posted by sluggish
Please explain why it's alright for hilley to get the Michigan delegates after they were suposed to be denied and she was the only one to campaign there.
I dunno if I wanna join the party to have fun making up Sen Clinton names and telling fart jokes if you can't keep up the momentum. If that wasn't your prime intent from the start you all coulda just acted like grown-ups from the git-go. I mighta got inspired to agree with the mere merit of the argument, then. :D