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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on February 12, 2008, 09:48:39 PM
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If this be true this be NOT GOOD!
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56177
NOT GOOD!
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OMFG OH NOES!!!! :O
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McCain is a liar. Plain and simple.
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I dont buy it:noid
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As time goes on, my hatred of McCain doesn't change. My hatred for Romney however, grows as Huckabee keeps beating McCain in all the primaries since Romney "Suspended" his campaign.
I'd rather slam my dick in a car door then vote for McCain. This is a not too public message to the Republican National Convention. Me and many other people are not willing to vote for McCain over ANY democratic candidate. We do have some self respect.
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You can tell you've got a great lot of candidates when there's more debate about their shortcomings than their qualities.
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McCain has some splainin to do :D
Preserve my gun rights and keep islamo facists informed that they will die in proportion to their crimes and Im good!
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they are all crooks
IMO McCain is the smallest cook out of the three front runners and that is why I will hold my nose and vote for him
think twice before you don't vote for him as the alternative is unthinkable imo
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McCain scares me more than Hillary, and I see both of them as being very bad for our country. McCain went into captivity in Nam a right wing hawk and somehow got twisted over there.
He's a liberal posing as a conservative. He's against most of the things conservative republicans are for. But he's been pretty quiet about showing his true feelings. Frankly at this point i'd rather put a black man in the office than McCain.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Frankly at this point i'd rather put a black man in the office than McCain.
one with zero experience?
I'd take Powell over McCain but I don't have that option.
take obama's speech writer away and he has nothing ... empty words is all his audience needs ... until it is time for action and then it will be too late
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neither billary or the half negro are gonna do a better job at...
lowering taxes.
cutting socialist spending.
preserving 2nd amendment rights.
Appointing judges.
mccain sucks but not near as bad as the alternatives.
There are huge differences.
lazs
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Until I see hard facts coming from an objective news source, I hold whatever was said in that article in suspicion.
All that site is missing is Hannity, Coulter, and Rush holding hands.
(and before you ask, I am a moderate)
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Originally posted by lazs2
neither billary or the half negro are gonna do a better job at...
lowering taxes.
cutting socialist spending.
preserving 2nd amendment rights.
Appointing judges.
mccain sucks but not near as bad as the alternatives.
There are huge differences.
lazs
You do realize that McCain was against all those things, right?
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show me a tax he voted for. Show me where his record is worse than the democrats.
No.. he is not the best but he is a world better than the other choices.
lazs
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Originally posted by wrag
If this be true this be NOT GOOD!
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56177
NOT GOOD!
Are you kidding me??? In the 04 election, he tried to join the left wing party and be john kerry's running mate. They wouldnt let him because he wanted to be the left wing speaker. I understand that he has a good plan for the war on terror but he is AN IDIOT! Bush kept our country together when we were at war and kept our taxes down, McCain is gonna raise our taxes by like 15-35%.............
Oh and laz, in 04 he and a hard core left wing socialist went and basically took our freedom of speech away....through the media. Now american people cant post thier own commercials saying that someone is a bad person or saying that someone is really a good persong........... John McCain also thinks that the left wing media is on his side, wrong, they will eat him alive if its him and hillary or him and obama. He just doesnt know it, if its him and obama, i will vote obama, because atleast a democrat can **** our country up and then get a good conservative like Romney to run our country and lower taxes......etc. All runningmates are idiots, its just how would you like our country to be messed up?? With a republican for 4 years AND then a democrat for 4 years?? Thats 8 years of higher taxes, less military, less jobs.......OR we can get a bad democrat for 4 years (ONLY if its obama, cuz hillary will do it all and then make it worse, obama will be like jimmy carter if he is elected) AND then we can get like romney to go and help our country and lower taxes and make the people realize what they had done 4 years before in the 08 elections for voting for a democrat.
:D
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if you don't like McCain, you will like hillary/obama even less, much less.
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If you actually read that article it is all smoke and mirrors and especially inuendo. Same kind of hack job done repeatedly on Hillary and more recently on Obama.
As an aside, for the 1st time in my lifetime I don't think I'd be terribly dissapointed in any of the 3 top candidates winning the election.
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Here is his tax plan.. it gives the most to people who make 36,000 a year to about 120,000.. to me.. this is the middle class.. this is the group who needs it the most. there is some relief for those under 30,000 but.. face it.. most of them pay very little federal taxes.. almost all get a refund as it is.
http://www.ctj.org/html/mcca00pr.htm
or... http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_McCain_Tax_Reform.htm
"Under the plan, the ceiling for the 15% bracket would rise to $70,000 from $43,050 for married couples filing jointly, and to $35,000 from $25,750 for single taxpayers. The effect is to give a $3,504 tax cut to a couple with taxable income of $70,000 or more."
mccain gets an 87.7% rating from Americans for Tax Reform while the democrats running get like a 23%.
He wants to do away with the minimum alternative tax and inheritance theft.
lazs
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lazs, don't confuse people with facts, what we need is "hope' and "vision"and "change" and "to fight for a better future" and "thirst for a greater america".
(crowd goes wild with applause..clapclapclapclap)
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Originally posted by moot
You can tell you've got a great lot of candidates when there's more debate about their shortcomings than their qualities.
That pretty well sums up the makeup for presidential campaign efforts for the last 20 to 30 years.
It`s not about what the candidate will do or has intentions of doing, but more about the dirty laundry of the others. People seem to lap it up like gravy with a biscuit though.
IMO, from what I have seen , the majority of people fall into two groups.
1. Sheep. The ones who can be led down a thorny path naked and can be influenced so easily they offer to walk point. These are willing to pucker up and smooch a behind faster than you can kiss a duck. Clueless.
2. The "Don`t rock my boat" group. Simply put, those who could give a rat`s behind about the country and the direction it is heading as long as they see themselves getting sum monetary gain from it. These are the ones who usualy end up crying in their milk.
I don`t see it changing until people get off their backsides and stand the F up.
That`s not on the horizon as far as I can see.
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yup.. we have NO CHOICE but to vote for the lesser of two evils...
If we want the less evil than more. There simply is no other way to look at it. We can buy time with the greater evil or the lesser. eventually some candidate who makes sense will show up who has a chance.
In the meantime... you don't go and vote for the witch or the half negro guy unless you are some mush head kid or loser who wants to live off of other peoples backs.. and feel you have no hope of bettering yourself.
lazs
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I hate myself, but lazs, you make me laugh every day.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yup.. we have NO CHOICE but to vote for the lesser of two evils...
If we want the less evil than more. There simply is no other way to look at it. We can buy time with the greater evil or the lesser. eventually some candidate who makes sense will show up who has a chance.
In the meantime... you don't go and vote for the witch or the half negro guy unless you are some mush head kid or loser who wants to live off of other peoples backs.. and feel you have no hope of bettering yourself.
lazs
Heh. Mishka Gorbachev recently blasted the current state of affairs in russia, basically saying. How can one call russia a democracy when one party controlls the media and muscles any prospective political competition out of the election and maintains a commanding 90 percent of the vote.
Makes one wonder what he thinks of the USA where basically one party (dem-rep party) controls political access to higher offices.
Maybe Carlin is right, the two parties are virtually the same where it really matters, with minor differences to give us the illusion that we have a choice.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
McCain is a liar. Plain and simple.
Well I've typed it here before. The Republican party would nominate a democrat as a presidential candidate before they would nominate Ron Paul.
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Originally posted by john9001
if you don't like McCain, you will like hillary/obama even less, much less.
Yes very but the thing is all of em will mess up our country economy wise. Yes McCain will keep troops in iraq but he will raise taxes by like 10,000$$ a year and i could be under exaggerating it.
BUT if its McCain and Obama, i would like obama to **** it up for 4 years so that way a conservative who knows what he is doing could fix it all up.
McCain isnt even conservative............
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so you will shoot yourself in the foot in the hope that some doctor who knows what he is doing can "fix it all up"?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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well.. I think some are saying that if you blow your foot off with a shotgun on purpose... that it is for the greater good.
It means that it will be so painful that you will be safer with guns in the future and maybe prevent a worse shooting...
I simply don't buy that logic. I am saying that a near miss or a lost toe (mccain) compared to a blown off foot (the witch or the half negro guy) is the lesser of two evils. And a better deal for me.
anglewhatever... how in the hell do you get mccain raising everyones taxes by $10,000 a year??? I think you have him mixed up with the witch or the half negro guy. Did you look at the sites I linked for his tax plan?
lazs
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You could always vote for the 1/2 white guy lazs.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
You could always vote for the 1/2 white guy lazs.
Umm... are you talking about Obama or Hillary?
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Originally posted by Ghosth
McCain scares me more than Hillary, and I see both of them as being very bad for our country. McCain went into captivity in Nam a right wing hawk and somehow got twisted over there.
He's a liberal posing as a conservative. He's against most of the things conservative republicans are for. But he's been pretty quiet about showing his true feelings. Frankly at this point i'd rather put a black man in the office than McCain.
THANK YOU GHOSTH SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!!!
Just because he was a prisoner in Vietnam doesnt mean that he is fit to run our country. They did that same stuff with John Kerry.
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Originally posted by Suave
Well I've typed it here before. The Republican party would nominate a democrat as a presidential candidate before they would nominate Ron Paul.
Ron Pual is too extreme, he wants us to like not have a military and to have no welfare (no welfare policy i like) but if we got no military, well then we can say goodbye to america....
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Ron Pual is too extreme, he wants us to like not have a military and to have no welfare (no welfare policy i like) but if we got no military, well then we can say goodbye to america....
you're pretty misinformed. Ron Paul most definitely is for a strong military,what he doesn't support is the foreign policy that has it spread so thin across the globe that we'd be powerless to stop an actual attack on us, assuming we don't go bankrupt first.
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Source on RP wanting "no military"?
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Originally posted by moot
Source on RP wanting "no military"?
Angelhair prolly got it from
http://WwW.pokamonfaboi.com
:rofl
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It's not nice to pick on the slow kids.
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Originally posted by SOB
It's not nice to pick on the slow kids.
But most of the slow adults have been banned. ;)
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Easier to catch. Cleans up gene pool quicker?
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MT.. I will be glad to refer to the commie as "the half white guy" if that works for your aura.
sob has a point tho. that could be billary. more descriptive to say "the half negro guy" I bet the term catches on.
You are gonna miss me when I'm gone.
lazs
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quote:Originally posted by Ghosth
McCain scares me more than Hillary, and I see both of them as being very bad for our country. McCain went into captivity in Nam a right wing hawk and somehow got twisted over there.
He's a liberal posing as a conservative. He's against most of the things conservative republicans are for. But he's been pretty quiet about showing his true feelings. Frankly at this point i'd rather put a black man in the office than McCain.
Originally posted by angelsandair
THANK YOU GHOSTH SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!!!
Just because he was a prisoner in Vietnam doesnt mean that he is fit to run our country. They did that same stuff with John Kerry.
I find myself wondering if McCain is somehow intent on punishing the American People for what happened to him and so many Vets.
Does he HATE?
Word is he has a terrible temper. (is it Post Traumatic Stress Disorder related?)
Does he believe that all he believed in, all he thought America stood for was a lie?
Does he perhaps believe it was all destroyed, made into a lie by the politicians and the protesters?
All the fighting, all the bloodshed, all the dieing, all the sacrifice, all the your country needs you to fight the good fight, was for nothing?
Were he and the others somehow brainwashed?
Lots of questions come to mind when I look at McCain and his voting record and his bill sponsoring. Namely the Campaign Finance Reform thing. Which IMHO was a direct violation of the 1st Amendment and precursor to what he will do with the other rights should he win.
IMHO McCain in the white house will result in 2nd Amendment, and the rest of our rights shortly thereafter, goin bye bye.
IMHO McCain is the definition of the word RINO.
I also find myself wondering how so many could be voting for him? How could they do that after seeing his voting record and bill sponsoring?
I find myself wondering just how accurate those voting machines are. Elections have been fixed in the past. Such things are not unheard of.
I also find it troubling that he was acting like he had the election in the bag before people began voting? But perhaps he was just putting up a front?
Guess the best way I can say it is I am NOT for McCain.
Hold my nose and vote anyway?
I'M GETTING SOOOOO TIRED OF HAVING TO DO THAT!
In fact such crap OVER and OVER is making me ANGRY.
But then again I'm NOT for the Republicans or the Democrats as I consider them 2 sides of the SAME PARTY presenting the plebes with a dog and pony show and a promise of MORE Circus's and Bread.
Ahhhh well :lol
Not sure I feel any better for having said it but I at least can, for now, STILL say it.
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wrag no offensive but that site is a joke.. They are the guys riding in the last seat on the the right wing conspiracy nuts short bus..
What's worse is they claim to be "conservative" yet they have no clue what a actual conservative is..I about died laughing when I opened your link and saw this add on that site...
(http://ads.worldnetdaily.com/adbanners/ad.Those_Shirts.012908.2vIEWS.Ronald_Reagan.Old_School_Conservative.125x200.gif)
Ronald Regan was no freaking conservative that's for damn sure.. the national debit under Regan's presidency rose from $700 billion to $3 trillion. He was the beginning of the end of "true" Republican Conservatives..
Spend, Spend, Spend, yet he's "old school conserative"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I have lost faith in Republicans. I live in Arizona, and I would vote for almost any other republican candidate than John McCain. He is a lying liberal. It is true that he has a Mexican Government activist as his Hispanic outreach leader, and has the worst ideas on immigration even though he lives in a border state. He is so out of touch with reality, he can't hope to make the right decisions on the economy, taxes or any other domestic or foreign issue. The sad thing is, I will probably have to vote for him in November. How did this happen!!!@#$%
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Originally posted by SOB
It's not nice to pick on the slow kids.
JUST CAS I EDUCASHONALLY EMPAARED DOSNT MEEN U NEAD 2 PIK ON MEE!!!!!! I REELY SMAART!!!! SEE I CAIN SPEL!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl :rofl
O it may have been instant withdrawl of troops from iraq. I read it in a news letter about him in austin on vetrans day.
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That's what you're going to base your vote on?
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Well he is an idiot first of all, and alot more hardcore than McCain in alot of things. I would vote for him if he didnt have the troops out of iraq policy. We got that war won, i never see news about how bad things are going in iraq (cuz cnn and nbc dont want ppl to know bush was right).
O and here is a funny fact, ever notice how left wing nbc, cnn, msnbc is??
NBC:
News to Benefit Clinton/Communism
CNN:
Clinton/Comminust News Network
MSNBC:
More Specefic News to Benefit Clinton/Comminusm
Just a little fun fact, o and there is proof that their names prove what they are. Here is a news quote by NBC:
"George Bush's DISAPPROVAL rating is 65% but Congress' APPROVAL rating is 30%"
Now who sounds better Bush or Congress??
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Originally posted by crockett
wrag no offensive but that site is a joke.. They are the guys riding in the last seat on the the right wing conspiracy nuts short bus..
What's worse is they claim to be "conservative" yet they have no clue what a actual conservative is..I about died laughing when I opened your link and saw this add on that site...
(http://ads.worldnetdaily.com/adbanners/ad.Those_Shirts.012908.2vIEWS.Ronald_Reagan.Old_School_Conservative.125x200.gif)
Ronald Regan was no freaking conservative that's for damn sure.. the national debit under Regan's presidency rose from $700 billion to $3 trillion. He was the beginning of the end of "true" Republican Conservatives..
Spend, Spend, Spend, yet he's "old school conserative"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Now you got me goin! (OK I'm not offended :) )
I did NOT like Reagan! I still don't.
HYPE!
He was mainly HYPE.
No I do not consider him a conservative. IMHO he screwed us big time.
But try tellin that to the fan boys. And it's burn the witch, destroy the heretic, kill the blasphemer!
They really don't look at what he actually did, they look at the HYPE put out distorting what he really did and claiming he did other things.
Bush? Didn't want either one!
Komrade Klinton and company? NOPE!
But I do have to say that I consider Lyndon Bains Johnson to be one of the WORST presidents this country ever had.
Very few actually think about what he did. IMHO he was the leading cause of what we have now.
As to the site being a joke. Perhaps. But I consider it no worse then many other sites, that lean left or right, and possible better then some.
Wanna know whats' REALLY goin on? Or at least get an idea of whats happening?
Suggest you read something like Soldier of Fortune magazine and Time magazine and figure the REAL truth to be a little of both and mostly somewhere in between what they HYPE.
Don't ignore the conspiracy theory types either! I'm NOT saying they're correct BUT I am saying pay attention!
As to Soros.... I would NOT be surprised if the story is true. That person has every intention of changing things into something He believes is what is best for the world. And never mind what you, I, or anyone else thinks!