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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: texasmom on February 13, 2008, 11:52:18 AM
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Bessie Coleman. In none of my kids schools have I ever seen anything about Bessie Coleman during black history month. MLK is plastered on any open wall-space (which is all well & good... except he isn't the only black guy who ever did anything remarkable or made a difference).
So let's hear it for Bessie, teachers! Add her to your study plans; print out a picture & bio on her as well! :)
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lets hear it for all teachers.....
I think every fireman, cop and teacher in this country should start at 100K per year.
we'll raise these funds by imposing an ***hole tax on every future attorney who passes the bar.
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Originally posted by ZetaNine
lets hear it for all teachers.....
I think every fireman, cop and teacher in this country should start at 100K per year.
we'll raise these funds by imposing an ***hole tax on every future attorney who passes the bar.
Not all lawyers are jerks. And not all teachers are angels.
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I concur.
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Originally posted by texasmom
Not all lawyers are jerks.
True enough, its the jerks who give the other 1% a bad name!
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I don't follow any racist month. Till we have White History month they can stuff all the rest.
Some ignorant folks think that blacks only did anything during february.... lol
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My wife is an English teacher at a high school here in Ga. The school is 89% black, every month is pretty much black history month.
Originally posted by Shuffler
I don't follow any racist month. Till we have White History month they can stuff all the rest.
Some ignorant folks think that blacks only did anything during february.... lol
Quoted for truth. Black history month, like all black colleges and all black television are some of the oddities of our society that I can not get my head around. They want to be equal, but at the same time operate by different rules.
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Agree with it or not, there have been some amazing people in our history that were black ~ and a great part of the reason that their actions were so great is because they had to battle not only the 'normal' life struggles that every person had, but also had to achieve every small (or large) success while being told they weren't allowed to even strive for success, and had every stumbling block placed before them.
Is it that way today? No.
Is it appropriate to remember with respect & admiration those who cut the trail for those people today who can run the path freely? Yes
Is Bessie one of those folks? Yes, absolutely.
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Some other folks who didn't get the recognition they deserved were the Tuskegee Airmen. There are only a few left but much is owed to those guys.
It's not the color of your skin that defines you, it's the acts you commit while in that skin that defines you. Unless you are only defined in your mind by the color of your skin.
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MLK ?
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Martin Luther King, where you been the last 25 years?!?!?! :huh
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Originally posted by BBBB
Black history month, like all black colleges and all black television are some of the oddities of our society that I can not get my head around.
Lemme help you out.
There's no such thing as an "all black college." What you're probably thinking of are historically black colleges. These were founded in the south when African-Americans were not allowed to attend state colleges, either by law (prior to Brown v. Board of Education) or by discriminatory admissions (well into the 1970s). These colleges and universities were established because they were the only way for black students to get a higher education. Tuskegee University in Alabama is an example.
Historically black colleges are not "all black" and have always been open to white students (where the law allowed). Overall, about 1/3 of the students and faculty at these colleges are not black. Some of these schools consider race as one factor in admissions but never the only or overriding factor (the same as "historically white colleges") in contributing to diversity.
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Let me help you out. Every so often the AJC has a nice write up about a white kid, or an Asian kid who tried to enroll in one of the fine "historically black" colleges, only to be denied for "academic reasons".
Morehouse College is over 95% Black, Spelman College is over 96% black, Clark Atlanta University is over 93% black, Dillard University 99.3% black and last but not the least..lets not forget Johnson C. Smith University who is 99.9% black. Even though white, Asian, Latino and others apply on a regular basis to these fine "historically black" colleges.
So your telling me that only one non-black student applied to Johson C Smith? Academic reasons my ass.
I have a question. Is BET historically black too? If not, is it OK if I have TWN (The White Network), where we promote strength and unity within the white community for the white community?..Ohh that's right, we would be racists then.
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Originally posted by Shuffler
I don't follow any racist month. Till we have White History month they can stuff all the rest.
Some ignorant folks think that blacks only did anything during february.... lol
you have your WHITE history month and it's in October:aok
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Originally posted by myelo
Lemme help you out.
There's no such thing as an "all black college." What you're probably thinking of are historically black colleges. These were founded in the south when African-Americans were not allowed to attend state colleges, either by law (prior to Brown v. Board of Education) or by discriminatory admissions (well into the 1970s). These colleges and universities were established because they were the only way for black students to get a higher education. Tuskegee University in Alabama is an example.
Historically black colleges are not "all black" and have always been open to white students (where the law allowed). Overall, about 1/3 of the students and faculty at these colleges are not black. Some of these schools consider race as one factor in admissions but never the only or overriding factor (the same as "historically white colleges") in contributing to diversity.
So where do I apply to receive funds from the Black College Fund.....
Racism is a two way street. Two of the most racist folks I know are both black. They are more racist than anyone of any color I have ever met.
Back to the Blacks that have done so much for America.... there are many... but the powers that be tend to dote on a few. I am a big fan of the Tuskeegee Airmen.... amazing what they accomplished. You might remember the men that laid the road to Alaska too.
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Originally posted by texasmom
Agree with it or not, there have been some amazing people in our history that were black ~ and a great part of the reason that their actions were so great is because they had to battle not only the 'normal' life struggles that every person had, but also had to achieve every small (or large) success while being told they weren't allowed to even strive for success, and had every stumbling block placed before them.
Is it that way today? No.
Is it appropriate to remember with respect & admiration those who cut the trail for those people today who can run the path freely? Yes
Is Bessie one of those folks? Yes, absolutely.
Yes, because the Black race is the only people in the history of the world who have ever struggled with ANYTHING.
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Men that deserve "Black History Month"
Yankee Air Museum will be hosting a special movie night presenting a documentary film on the 555th Parachute Infantry Regiment from WWII. Yankee's C-47 will be open to walk through.
February 23rd, 2008.
Doors open at 5.
Movie starts at 6.
ClickyTriple Nickels Movie Night at YAM (http://yankeeairmuseum.org/events/555th.shtml) Clicky
Regards,
Yank
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were you being sarcastic laser?
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Originally posted by texasmom
were you being sarcastic laser?
lol possibly... but many other folks have suffered through the ages.
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obviously the philandering MLk is the most important person in the history of the world since he is the only person that we have a holiday for his birthday (maybe christ but..)
lazs
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Great just what we need , another holiday off for teachers and govt workers.
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We let anyone that wants to take that day off to do so. Only they give up a regular holiday in return.
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Originally posted by JBA
Great just what we need , another holiday off for teachers and govt workers.
What on earth are y'all talking about? The whole month is black history month. There's no proposed federal holiday involved.
And as soon as any of y'all heard BLACK, you ran to the normal jibber-jabber. *rolling my eyes*
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Since Homo sapiens orginated, theoretically, in Africa, doesn't that make all of us in the U.S. 'African-American'?
Sorry lazs...
:D
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Originally posted by Maverick
Some other folks who didn't get the recognition they deserved were the Tuskegee Airmen. There are only a few left but much is owed to those guys.
It's not the color of your skin that defines you, it's the acts you commit while in that skin that defines you. Unless you are only defined in your mind by the color of your skin.
Agree.
As to the Tuskegee Airmen, I was kind of suprised when I went to their display area at the Dayton Air Show in '03...frankly it sucked. The people in there were not at all friendly and as hard as I tried to find something to buy as a momento...it was all garbage.
It is a shame.
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Racism is a two way street. Two of the most racist folks I know are both black. They are more racist than anyone of any color I have ever met.
That's interesting...and your point?
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Since Homo sapiens orginated, theoretically, in Africa, doesn't that make all of us in the U.S. 'African-American'?
Sorry lazs...
:D
No, I'm the only "African American" in this thread. I was born on the african continent 52 years ago. I'm also white. Soooo.......
By the way MLK plagerised his PHD thesis. The school decided not to take it away for fears of all the normal things that happen when the american black community gets upset.
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Wasn't his name michael king? I heard somewhere that he never even legally changed his name to martin luther, who was a white protestant reformer. I also read he was a communist.
Edit:
Just did a google search and found this.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_martin_luther_king.htm
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Originally posted by BBBB
Let me help you out. Every so often the AJC has a nice write up about a white kid, or an Asian kid who tried to enroll in one of the fine "historically black" colleges, only to be denied for "academic reasons".
Whaaa!??!! A white student was denied admission? The racist bastards! It's a good thing the newspaper is taking the time to document each and every one of these outrages because anytime a white or asian can't get into the college of their choice it's obviously because of race. Because what else could it be?
How many times does your newspaper do an expose when a black student doesn't get into college?
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I stand corrected..
A philandering plagerist is apparently the most important person on the planet because he is the only one worth having a whole holiday just for his birthday (except possibly christ but he is out of favor this year).
lazs
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Martin Luther King, where you been the last 25 years?!?!?!
I've been around. What has he done in the last 25 years? I thought he'd been dead for almost 40.
My kids went through countless "Black History" months. Reports, research, the whole dog and pony show.
They do know all about George Washington Carver, MLK (sort of), Jesse Owens, etc.
They have no idea what a Nubian is. Can't name the predominate African cultures or define historical African mores and customs.
What they really seem to be studying is "Exceptional People of Color in White America" Which I have no problem with to a degree. But the History of black people supposedly goes back to the very dawn of humanity. I think they'd get more out of the broader perspective.
But then they should also take Asian History, Native American History, Pacific Islander history....
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Originally posted by RightF00T
That's interesting...and your point?
If it needs explanation then you must be a liberal.
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Originally posted by texasmom
......And as soon as any of y'all heard BLACK, you ran to the normal jibber-jabber. *rolling my eyes*
Stop with the race baiting already:
My point was enough with the school holidays
Here in Mass, they get Flag Day or Bunker hill Day, that's right a day off to honor the battle of bunker hill, How come your unions have not gotten in on that action yet.
Plus a week off at Thanksgiving, Week off for Christmas, Week off for spring break, a few days of "professional Development"
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Federal Legal Holidays 2008
• January 1, 2008: New Year's Day [Jan. 1 every year]
• January 21, 2008: Martin Luther King Day [3rd monday in Jan]
• February 18, 2008: Presidents Day (observed) [3rd monday in Feb]
note: Presidents Day is also Washington's Birthday (observed)
• May 26, 2008: Memorial Day (observed) [last monday in May]
• October 13, 2008: Columbus Day (observed) [2nd monday in Oct]
• November 11, 2008: Veterans' Day [Nov. 11 every year]
and two months for summer.
Enough already.
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How am I the one who is race baiting? The entire point of the thread was about Bessie Coleman ~ and how she's completely one of the under-recognized pioneers in Aviation ~ and somehow that got turned around into black bashing or black defending?
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Originally posted by Shuffler
So where do I apply to receive funds from the Black College Fund.....
Racism is a two way street. Two of the most racist folks I know are both black. They are more racist than anyone of any color I have ever met.
Back to the Blacks that have done so much for America.... there are many... but the powers that be tend to dote on a few. I am a big fan of the Tuskeegee Airmen.... amazing what they accomplished. You might remember the men that laid the road to Alaska too.
Let's not forget the Red Ball Express... (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=43934)