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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: chancevought on February 13, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
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So I dogfight this Hurri..blow off his tail, whats left hits ground and slides...I am directly over him at 200ft..NO KILL. Afew missions later i attack bombers...get pinged by gunners, and land at a factory. I land on my wheels come to a stop. At this point the bombers are a grid or two away...I end sortie, and it says I was killed!! This makes no sense to me, so can someone explain why ACTUAL kills that I make dont register, and why if I land on my wheels its called a kill?? The LUCK factor doesnt come into these situations, so how does this happen??? Thanx!
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i) the hurri was low & slow enough not to die on impact, so he got a ditch
ii) I bet any amount you got a " captured", not a "killed"
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Originally posted by chancevought
get pinged by gunners, and land at a factory. I land on my wheels come to a stop.
There are no "safe" landings at factories.
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your wheels have to be on the runway. If you land anywhere but around an allied airfield, you get captured and if its on your own airfield, it counts as a ditch. You must stay on the runway!
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
There are no "safe" landings at factories.
Nobaddy is correct. Landing at a factory, even on pavement at a factory does not constitute a "You have landed successfully" message. Only when you have landed on the tarmac of a Vehicle Base/Airfield/Port will you have landed successfully.
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Originally posted by Jack16
You must stay on the runway!
That's IMPOSSIBLE!! :O
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Originally posted by Latrobe
That's IMPOSSIBLE!! :O
Mabe for you it is:D
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Originally posted by thndregg
Only when you have landed on the tarmac of a Vehicle Base/Airfield/Port will you have landed successfully.
I believe you can also land in a town as long as you can taxi onto asphalt. This is usually pretty difficult, however, because the only time you would attempt it is when your engine is out or you're really low on gas.
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Yes you can safely land anywhere on pavement on an airbase, port, v-base, town, or carrier (but NOT the destroyer).
You CANNOT land in a factory, city, or HQ.
I have a feeling that you shot up the Hurri, and he crashlanded in the field, but did not "tower out". If he had you would have gotten a kill (or at least an Assist) notification. I think more than likely he just sat in his plane, giving you ample time to land or get killed before he towered out... to keep you from getting the kill. Perhaps he "pinged" you during the fight, and he's hoping that maybe you'll crash or something so he can get the kill.
I've done this a couple times myself, so I understand it.
Now when you landed in the Factory, it was not a safe spot, so you ended up with a Ditch. Any landing that is not successful will credit the kill to whoever gave you the most damage. (You can get a ditch and be "killed" at the same time).
I've gotten many kills by pinging a plane once or twice and watching it fly into auto ack fire. The auto ack kills it, but I get awarded the kill because I was the only 'person' who did any damage to it.
Make sense?
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Originally posted by Tigger29
I have a feeling that you shot up the Hurri, and he crashlanded in the field, but did not "tower out". If he had you would have gotten a kill (or at least an Assist) notification. I think more than likely he just sat in his plane, giving you ample time to land or get killed before he towered out... to keep you from getting the kill.
He didnt need to wait if he was closer to a friendly base than he was to an enemy base. You can always ditch on friendly territory, regardless of damage.
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You can land safely on any 'paved' surface at a field or in a town. This does not include the road the convoys use or any road or paved surface in a city or factory. BTW, it's easy to stay on the runway...just land with wheels up. The belly of your plane will stick like glue. With practice, you will be poppin both wings and the tail off and making a safe landing. :)
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You'll also learn to bounce your plane at just the right speed, so that it launches off of objects of all kinds, like those on the field or in the loadout hangar, etc.
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I have problems with the notion that you can remove the entire aft fuselage of an airplane at any altitude above ground level and have the victim "ditch".
IT TAINT RAT! Sho nuff tidn't :mad:
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Originally posted by Jack16
your wheels have to be on the runway. If you land anywhere but around an allied airfield, you get captured and if its on your own airfield, it counts as a ditch. You must stay on the runway!
you can land on a friendly Vbase too......just the same as on the airfield, your wheels need to be on concrete, or blacktop.....i generally taxi up to one of the hangars.........
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Proper Combat Landing Demonstration (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1014_1198902066_bestlandingevar.ahf)
It's all about maintaining the proper speed, and knowing what you can and cannot bounce off of. Always try for the cement on an airfield, vehicle base, or port. Factories and other components of the strat system are no-gos, even if trying to land on the HQ building seems like a good idea initially.
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all of you got it wrong. you can land on any pavement.
with the hurri heres what happen. you and him where dogfighting he prolly got you low and slow and he slides on the ground BUT however yall where fighting inside his radar ring or in his country zone, he gets a ditch, because he is inside his own country zone or radar ring.
now when you went up against the bombers whos factory was it? if its yours you can land there succesfully. you do however have to have all three wheels on concret. not an easy task but it can be done and you will land.
my take on the bomber part you where in NME territory and got your arse handed to you by some bombers and you tried landing at their strat base. not knowing you cant land at any NME base, strat zone, ext ext. you goto land and what would have been a ditch turned into a kill because the bomber pilot hit you with some of his guns turned into a kill.
first off never try to land in NME territory BAD IDEA. next time try to fly home.
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In a town you only need your two main wheels on concrete for a successful landing. I've done it often in a goon. I suppose the other safe landing areas work the same.
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Also, in a GV it seems you can land just about anywhere as long as there aren't any enemy cons in the area. I successfully landed the other day while tracked next to a field gun in an enemy town.
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to land a GV you have to be at lest 6k from any nme con.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
In a town you only need your two main wheels on concrete for a successful landing. I've done it often in a goon. I suppose the other safe landing areas work the same.
this could be true about the town. i have always gotten a ditch in strats with only the two main.
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Originally posted by kilz
this could be true about the town. i have always gotten a ditch in strats with only the two main.
Strats aren't safe landing areas no matter what unless you're in a GV.
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I have been shot down at low alt, somehow landed safely on the ground and just waited until the enemy has landed. If you don't get an immediate kill you need to plug him some more.
I was in an F4u4 once and being b&z'd to death by three P51s. I lasted a good while but they finally got me. I hit the water with no wings and somehow survived. I just sat there in the water watching them fly off. Probably giving wtgs. Went made myself something to eat, came back and ditched. No one got the kill. :lol
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Originally posted by Getback
I was in an F4u4 once and being b&z'd to death by three P51s. I lasted a good while but they finally got me. I hit the water with no wings and somehow survived. I just sat there in the water watching them fly off. Probably giving wtgs. Went made myself something to eat, came back and ditched. No one got the kill. :lol
If you got a "ditch" result and not a "captured" one, you wouldn't have needed to wait. You were in friendly territory, you could have towered out immediately without anyone getting a kill on you.
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I shot the tails off three IL2s a few nights back. On each occasion a 37mm cannon round fired from a Yak9 took the aft fuselage off the IL2.
These three IL2 were pruned in 200-300 foot altitude range, and all three "floated" down to a soft landing and a ditch.
Quite obviously 3-4000 pounds of IL2 wreckage dropping from 200-300 feet altitude (already moving at 200+ mph) and impacting the terrain shouldn't (under the best of circumstances) be considered a ditch....
but hey, its just a game.
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this is going nowhere....except pavement :lol