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Title: He-111
Post by: evenhaim on February 15, 2008, 01:01:30 AM
please its been requested so many times and i truely felt its presence missing yesterday in the snapshot :(
Title: He-111
Post by: lyric1 on February 15, 2008, 07:08:31 AM
Ditto. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/He111/He111_011.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/He111/He-111.htm&h=453&w=709&sz=28&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=IP5y-rCtkShygM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhe111%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.battle-of-britain.com/BoB2/aircraft/German/HE111b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.battle-of-britain.com/BoB2/aircraft/German/HE111.htm&h=375&w=500&sz=24&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=WB5KFTGvNkIU5M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhe111%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN http://www.btinternet.com/~lee_mail/He111-7.jpg
Title: He-111
Post by: Denholm on February 15, 2008, 08:56:48 AM
Must... Have... HE... 111!:O
Title: He-111
Post by: Gowan on February 15, 2008, 09:17:37 AM
me want it now!!!!


:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
Title: He-111
Post by: waystin2 on February 15, 2008, 09:59:12 AM
Yes!:aok
Title: He-111
Post by: derkojote23 on February 15, 2008, 03:27:16 PM
My opinion is well documented, I ditto the motion :aok
Title: He-111
Post by: Larry on February 15, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
It will never be in the game because it doesnt have a P in its name.:noid
Title: He-111
Post by: Krusty on February 15, 2008, 03:33:05 PM
How about the He-111P?

:noid






(Export version of He-111H series)
Title: He-111
Post by: Larry on February 15, 2008, 03:38:10 PM
Was it built in the USA? If not then NO!


:noid
Title: He-111
Post by: Krusty on February 15, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
But U, S, and A could be various tail codes on the fuselage...

:noid
Title: He-111
Post by: Karnak on February 15, 2008, 05:04:51 PM
He111 would be kinda, sorta useful for scenarios.  A bit.

I'd rather see the Ju188A-2.  A good, mid-late war bomber with the firepower and speed to be useful later than 1940.

He111 = hangar queen in the mid and late war and duplicated coverage in early war and scenarios.  I do not understand the lust for this bomber.
Title: He-111
Post by: MjTalon on February 15, 2008, 05:06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
He111 would be kinda, sorta useful for scenarios.  A bit.

I'd rather see the Ju188A-2.  A good, mid-late war bomber with the firepower and speed to be useful later than 1940.

He111 = hangar queen in the mid and late war and duplicated coverage in early war and scenarios.  I do not understand the lust for this bomber.


Think because it looks kool. :O
Title: He-111
Post by: soda72 on February 15, 2008, 05:19:17 PM
I don't see how CT can be completed without the he-111....
Title: He-111
Post by: Larry on February 15, 2008, 05:26:18 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
He111 would be kinda, sorta useful for scenarios.  A bit.

I'd rather see the Ju188A-2.  A good, mid-late war bomber with the firepower and speed to be useful later than 1940.

He111 = hangar queen in the mid and late war and duplicated coverage in early war and scenarios.  I do not understand the lust for this bomber.


Like karnak said just get rid of all the pre '45 planes they are taking up space that could be used for better faster more uber planes. I mean who needs a full early or mid war setup for AvA/SEA/EWMA/MWMA/CT.:rolleyes:
Title: He-111
Post by: Karnak on February 15, 2008, 05:30:46 PM
Larry,

Kindly do not put words in my mouth.

Ok?

Can you manage that simple task?

Deal?


I said nor claimed no such thing.  In fact, I often push for early war stuff.  The fact is, the He111 does not plug a hole.


Want and early war bomber that does?  Ask for a G4M2 or Wellington Mk III, both of which I push for.
Title: He-111
Post by: Larry on February 15, 2008, 05:32:53 PM
I was messing with you jeeeez what a kill joy.:(



It doesnt fill a hole? You ever hear of BoB?
Title: He-111
Post by: Krusty on February 15, 2008, 05:36:13 PM
A He-111H-4 would (with a couple of weapons packages) span from 1940 all the way to late 1943. After that the variants started getting more noticable.

That's a pretty big hole to fill! The Ju-88A4 we have in-game really only works for mid-1941. Maybe into early 1942. Too fast for early stuff, too weak/obsolete to be used against typhs, spit9+s, p47s, etc.

The He111 would fill a big hole in the early LW set, just like the B-25 fills a giant hole in the USAAF and RAF early war bombers.

Also, He111s were used as transports, they were used as paratroop transports, personnel transports, personal VIP craft for generals (and whatnot).

We could get a He111H with options to carry bombs, or troops, or field supplies! Imagine all that in one plane!
Title: He-111
Post by: Gowan on February 15, 2008, 06:43:07 PM
please tell me that it can give free pie and kill sheep!
Title: He-111
Post by: Redlegs on February 15, 2008, 07:58:59 PM
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Originally posted by Gowan
please tell me that it can give free pie and kill sheep!


It seriously wounds sheep and gives out free peach cobbler. Is that gonna be alright? :)
Title: He-111
Post by: Karnak on February 15, 2008, 07:59:10 PM
Sorry Larry.  Missed the humor.  I've been a bit grouchy lately.

I am pro-hole filling.  I don't see the He111 filling any holes.  It adds depth of coverage, which is good, but not as good as filling holes.   The He111 never had anything like effective defences (not that any bomber armaments were really effective) and just got slower and heavier as the war progressed.  Krusty's list of He111s that are hole fillers, aren't really.  The Ju88A-4 can be used in those places too and have similar success or lack of it.

And I even agree that the He111 looks neat.  It has always been one of my favorite Luftwaffe bombers and it would have been my choice over the Ju88A-4 when they added a German bomber.

But right now I think a Ju188A-2 (which also looks great) would be a better addition.
Title: He-111
Post by: Gowan on February 15, 2008, 08:17:10 PM
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Originally posted by Redlegs
It seriously wounds sheep and gives out free peach cobbler. Is that gonna be alright? :)


as long as i can wound sheep, thats good

but pie, I DEMAND IT
Title: He-111
Post by: macleod01 on February 15, 2008, 08:31:54 PM
Karnak, your right about the defensive capabilities of the 111. However it would make the number of bomber kills in BoB Scenarios alot more realistic lol
Title: He-111
Post by: zorstorer on February 15, 2008, 11:13:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
He111 would be kinda, sorta useful for scenarios.  A bit.

I'd rather see the Ju188A-2.  A good, mid-late war bomber with the firepower and speed to be useful later than 1940.

He111 = hangar queen in the mid and late war and duplicated coverage in early war and scenarios.  I do not understand the lust for this bomber.


BoB, enough said ;)
Title: He-111
Post by: Karnak on February 15, 2008, 11:33:17 PM
I agree the He111 should be added, I just don't think it is the highest priority German bomber.

My position on it isn't that different.
Title: He-111
Post by: angelsandair on February 15, 2008, 11:52:07 PM
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Originally posted by soda72
I don't see how CT can be completed without the he-111....


Well soda, since you prolly have more commensense in the fact that Aces High II isnt only about LW arenas, i completely agree with you.
Title: He-111
Post by: Karnak on February 16, 2008, 01:10:39 AM
CT is initially going to be set in the US Bomber offensive, so no, the He111 isn't needed at first.
Title: He-111
Post by: lyric1 on February 16, 2008, 09:19:02 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
Was it built in the USA? If not then NO!


:noid
 Well maybe we can get around that issue by painting them like this? (http://www.picburst.com/uploads/00b72dbb3a.jpg) (http://www.picburst.com)
Title: He-111
Post by: angelsandair on February 16, 2008, 10:44:19 PM
LETS HAVE THE HE-111!!!!!! We need more german and japanese bombers, if we get the he-111 with the p-39, early and mid war is set, same with AvA
Title: He-111
Post by: Motherland on February 16, 2008, 10:46:10 PM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
LETS HAVE THE HE-111!!!!!! We need more german and japanese bombers, if we get the he-111 with the p-39, early and mid war is set, same with AvA

Better off? Sure.
Set? Far, far, far, far, away. The only planeset that we have that is 'set' is the latewar planeset.
Title: He-111
Post by: angelsandair on February 16, 2008, 10:49:43 PM
Well atleast AvA (germans still missing bombers though....russians....bombers too)
Title: He-111
Post by: Meatwad on February 16, 2008, 11:36:15 PM
He-111 please :)
Title: He-111
Post by: VooWho on February 16, 2008, 11:57:04 PM
Most needed bombers

#1 - He111 (for EW, Mid War)
#2 - He111 (Sexy look to it)
#3 - He111 (OMG its a bomer, transport, and paradrop all in one)
#4 - Pe2 (Russians need something)
#5 - SM76 (The Italian plane set is lacking a bomber)
#6 - G3M and G4M (Japan needs an early bomber.... G3M, and a mid war bomber the G4M.)
Title: He-111
Post by: angelsandair on February 17, 2008, 12:20:38 AM
YES!!! THATS WHAT WE NEED, THEY PUT IN THE WIRBELWIND AND I HADNT EVEN SEEN THREADS FOR IT!!!! KEEP THE THREAD GOING!!!   :D
Title: He-111
Post by: Karnak on February 17, 2008, 01:10:25 AM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
YES!!! THATS WHAT WE NEED, THEY PUT IN THE WIRBELWIND AND I HADNT EVEN SEEN THREADS FOR IT!!!! KEEP THE THREAD GOING!!!   :D

There were threads for it.  Lots of them.
Title: He-111
Post by: VooWho on February 17, 2008, 02:59:50 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
There were threads for it.  Lots of them.


yea I've posted 6 of them in the past.