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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on February 15, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UQTAS80&show_article=1
Wow....if the guy wants to get elected, this is the sort of thing that could make him a powerhouse candidate.
McCain suddenly looks feeble.....will need to study this development further :confused:
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B. S.
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He said he would support federal legislation based on a California law that would facilitate immediate tracing of bullets used in a crime.
How does that help?:huh ... The idea is to prevent gun crime, keep the guns out of the hands of the bad guys...
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Although Obama supports gun control, while campaigning in gun-friendly Idaho earlier this month, he said he does not intend to take away people's guns.
At his news conference, he voiced support for the District of Columbia's ban on handguns, which is scheduled to be heard by the Supreme Court next month.
"The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can't initiate gun safety laws to deal with gang bangers and random shootings on the street isn't born out by our Constitution," Obama said.
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Yeah, Obama isnt the real deal here. He is being misleading. Just read the details and its all over. Oh well....was thinking maybe the guy really is a progressive new thinker but apparently he is just a new box with the same old liberal inside.
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Originally posted by Yeager
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UQTAS80&show_article=1
Wow....if the guy wants to get elected, this is the sort of thing that could make him a powerhouse candidate.
McCain suddenly looks feeble.....will need to study this development further :confused:
He's lying. A democratic senator from Illinois, which has some of the strictest gun control in the US, is lying when he says that he believes in an Individual's right to gun control. Especially one who has voted against the right gun bills in the past.
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The words "common sense legislation" quoted in that article was a deal
breaker for me. There is simply no such thing.
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Obama is trying to avoid the gun control poison pill from the NRA by sucking up to the 2nd amendmant. Californias microstamping law is gun control by controling the availability of ammunition. Ammo manufactuers cannot afford to tool up to microstamp all ammunition going into kali. So the industry will just write kali off. Police in kali get their ammo through other means. So do criminals.
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This is just another flip flop in the grand tradition of kerry and just as disingenuous. It's a great example of do anything and especially say anything to get the power, then do as you want.
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He's not after the guns, he's after the bullets.....
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Obama supports the 2nd every bit as strongly as a Kennedy, Bloomberg or Arnie.
Ban nationally CCW
Ban Semi automatics
Microstamping
Close the nonexistant gunshow loophole
Not that hunters and sportsmen wouldn't be allowed their Italian O/U shotguns, or those quaint deer hunter folk a black powder or bolt gun. You know, just like it says about hunting rights in the 2nd Amendment.
Hillery is actually a Charlton Heston by comparison.
Charon
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thanks, I needed a laugh today...
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He followed up with a rousing speech calling for hope™ and change™ that was filled with policy statements and promises of "hoping for change,"™ and "changing for hope."™
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Originally posted by Airscrew
How does that help?:huh ... The idea is to prevent gun crime, keep the guns out of the hands of the bad guys...
Why sure. All he wants to do is mandate a non-existant technology that would make it impossible to possess firearms that don't have the non-existant technology.
Gore would probably not want to take peoples internal combustion cars away from them, but would gladly mandate that only cars that run on matter-antimatter engines be allowed to be used as transportation.
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Originally posted by Airscrew
How does that help?:huh ... The idea is to prevent gun crime, keep the guns out of the hands of the bad guys...
errr.......
Well if they restrict guns, it wont stop the criminals from not having em....
If the criminals are gonna break the law anyways, i dont think having a gun is that big of a deal.
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Originally posted by Rolex
He followed up with a rousing speech calling for hope™ and change™ that was filled with policy statements and promises of "hoping for change,"™ and "changing for hope."™
HAHA, I got a chuckle out that.
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Speaking of gun control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJGcrUk2eE&feature=related) :rofl
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Originally posted by Yeager
Although Obama supports gun control, while campaigning in gun-friendly Idaho earlier this month, he said he does not intend to take away people's guns.
At his news conference, he voiced support for the District of Columbia's ban on handguns, which is scheduled to be heard by the Supreme Court next month.
"The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can't initiate gun safety laws to deal with gang bangers and random shootings on the street isn't born out by our Constitution," Obama said.
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Yeah, Obama isnt the real deal here. He is being misleading. Just read the details and its all over. Oh well....was thinking maybe the guy really is a progressive new thinker but apparently he is just a new box with the same old liberal inside.
Well, just take a close look into that new California law that he wants to have go national. While it does not take away anyone's guns, in a few years no semiautomatic handguns will be able to be sold in California unless the gun imprints a serial number on fired cartridge case. The law has nothing to do with imprinting anything on the bullets themselves, as this news article so inaccurately states.
First off, the this technology is not yet proven to be practical. One small firm holds a patent on the only existing process, and arms makers would have to pay them a license fee to use it, making guns more expensive. The law also does nothing about revolvers, so if a revolver is used, there is no evidence left behind with a serial number.
Secondly, no handguns that do not have this technology will be able to either be sold or transfered in California after the law goes into effect. So people owning older semiautomatic pistols will never be able to give the gun or sell the gun to someone else. When the person dies, the gun will either have to be turned into the police, or taken outside of California.
So within a single generation, all of the many millions of semiautomatic handguns in our country would all have to be eliminated, if this law was made national. A father could not even leave a gun to his son in his will, for example.
The California Assault Weapons ban works the same way. People who had AR-15's got to keep them. But they can never transfer them to anyone else in the State of California.
So the laws are really gun bans, just with a delayed effect.
SIG 220
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if drugs and illegals can be smuggled into cal, guns and ammo can be also.
just another "feel good" law that only affects the law abiding people.
criminals don't obey the law, thats why they are called criminals.
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Yeah.. he almost had me with the "individual rights" thing and the interpreting the constitution literally..
good sounding till he explains...
" Although Obama supports gun control, while campaigning in gun-friendly Idaho earlier this month, he said he does not intend to take away people's guns.
At his news conference, he voiced support for the District of Columbia's ban on handguns, which is scheduled to be heard by the Supreme Court next month.
yeah.. "individual rights" so long as they are no rights at all.
Like saying he supports free speech so long as your hands are tied and you have a gag in your mouth.
What a weazel.
I expect the obligatory skeet shooting photo op from this phony.
lazs