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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: derkojote23 on February 15, 2008, 05:03:58 PM
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Iv never had use for Icons any way but today at about 245 pst I was at A140 in LWB assisting in a ripping a town down when I seen an LA strafing me that had no Icon. I killed it and wont say who it was in here because he may not have known it was not up, if you did the you are a sorry Piece Of, (well you know), if you have to cheat to play. Any way it made no never mined to me killed it nun the less. Iv bean playing in battlefield trying the free trial and there are no icons on GVs only on the air craft, and those show only the type and don’t even do that till less then or about 1 mile. As far as I’m concerned the Icon is just a useless way for ppl to get easy kills, and as the game is set up to favor the air units any way killing the Icons should not matter and may improve the game speed a little.
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:huh
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Is it possible that you had your nme icons turned off by chance?
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See Rules #4, #5
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If we turned Icons off in the MA, we wouldn't be able to tell who was friend or foe. In Battlefield 1942, the only people who don't have icons are your enemies, so you can see who is Axis and who is Allies.
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Yep, plus you kind of need the icons to tell the distance of your enemies anyways. If they did something diferent with em, it would make me like last in rank.....
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Originally posted by derkojote23
Iv never had use for Icons any way but today at about 245 pst I was at A140 in LWB assisting in a ripping a town down when I seen an LA strafing me that had no Icon. I killed it and wont say who it was in here because he may not have known it was not up, if you did the you are a sorry Piece Of, (well you know), if you have to cheat to play. Any way it made no never mined to me killed it nun the less. Iv bean playing in battlefield trying the free trial and there are no icons on GVs only on the air craft, and those show only the type and don’t even do that till less then or about 1 mile. As far as I’m concerned the Icon is just a useless way for ppl to get easy kills, and as the game is set up to favor the air units any way killing the Icons should not matter and may improve the game speed a little.
If the plane is low enough on the deck, the icon will not appear as it's "clipped" into the terrain. That's why sometimes you'll see planes flying right on the deck without any icons.
One bit of advice that I have for you. Learn the game mechanics before you call anyone a cheater. All you do by making posts such as yours is show the community you're not very bright.
ack-ack
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Iv never had use for Icons any way but today at about 245 pst I was at A140 in LWB assisting in a ripping a town down when I seen an LA strafing me that had no Icon. I killed it and wont say who it was in here because he may not have known it was not up, if you did the you are a sorry Piece Of, (well you know), if you have to cheat to play. Any way it made no never mined to me killed it nun the less. Iv bean playing in battlefield trying the free trial and there are no icons on GVs only on the air craft, and those show only the type and don’t even do that till less then or about 1 mile. As far as I’m concerned the Icon is just a useless way for ppl to get easy kills, and as the game is set up to favor the air units any way killing the Icons should not matter and may improve the game speed a little.
Originally posted by derkojote23
I have never had use for icons anyway, but today at about 2:45 PST I was at A140 in LWB assisting in ripping a town down when I see an LA strafing me that had no Icon.
I killed it and (system) wouldn't say who it was. He may not have known it (the town?) was not up, if he did then he is a sorry P40-dweeb, if you have to fly such a plane to play. Anyway it made no nevermind to me, they killed the nun, the less. I have a bean playing in battlefield, trying the free trial, and there are no icons on the GV's, only on the aircraft, and those show only the type and don’t even do that until the distance is less than a mile. As far as I’m concerned the Icon is just a useless way for people to get easy kills, and as the game is set up to favor the air units any way killing the icons should not matter and may improve the game speed a little.
Sorry, English is not my first language. But removing the icons seems just silly as not all of us have 40" screens where they can identify the wingtips of an enemy Spitfire right away.
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get rid of the icon? are you nuts? nobody would be able to come within 3 miles of eachother if they can' t see them and thus compleatly kill the game. reminds me of the night fighting settups i hosted on H2H, i had the light so far down you could just barly see the diles in the cockpit let alone fined the ememy, but we had fun anyway ;)
Originally posted by Panzzer
they killed the nun,
:rofl
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i dont see this working since enemies can fly any plane and you cant tell friendly from enemy, i would like this feature though, so noone is allowed to see icons in AVA, they'd have to identify enemy aircrft themselves
^_^
~Gowgows
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AH without icons = a combat flight sim simulating combat by legally blind pilots.
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Originally posted by Gowan
i dont see this working since enemies can fly any plane and you cant tell friendly from enemy, i would like this feature though, so noone is allowed to see icons in AVA, they'd have to identify enemy aircrft themselves
You dont fly in the AvA so how about not trying to change something you dont play.
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Sorry, but I really don't think much of this idea. With the same airplanes and skins available to everyone it just wouldn't work. Even if you could identify an airplane type far enough away to do some good, you still wouldn't know if it were friend or foe.
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Originally posted by badhorse
Sorry, but I really don't think much of this idea. With the same airplanes and skins available to everyone it just wouldn't work. Even if you could identify an airplane type far enough away to do some good, you still wouldn't know if it were friend or foe.
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bad horse is right. sameplanes same skins availible to every1, itd be near imposible to tell friend from foe. we could do something like AvA, but it would be hard w/ 3 countries, not 2, so no icons would kill the game as Allen Rune said. if you want to have no icons hit ALT + I untill in the text buffer it ses in orange "Icons Off".
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See Rule #5
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Originally posted by derkojote23
Iv never had use for Icons any way but today at about 245 pst I was at A140 in LWB assisting in a ripping a town down when I seen an LA strafing me that had no Icon. I killed it and wont say who it was in here because he may not have known it was not up, if you did the you are a sorry Piece Of, (well you know), if you have to cheat to play. Any way it made no never mined to me killed it nun the less. Iv bean playing in battlefield trying the free trial and there are no icons on GVs only on the air craft, and those show only the type and don’t even do that till less then or about 1 mile. As far as I’m concerned the Icon is just a useless way for ppl to get easy kills, and as the game is set up to favor the air units any way killing the Icons should not matter and may improve the game speed a little.
I've never heard of you, but I know this much. Grammar kills.
But you seem to type miscellaneous ramblings and shift more gears than a Southbound trucker.
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See Rule #2
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See Rule #2
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See Rule #2
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I would agree, but all people fly different planes. you'd have no idea.
BAAAAM! KLAKAKAKAKAKAKA SNAP! :cry damn killshooter
:D
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Even with an axis vs. allies setup, no icons would actually be less realistic.
You have better depth perception and ability to discriminate objects at a distance in real life than on a computer screen.
Go down to your local airport, on a clear cool day you can usually tell whether it's a Cessna or a Mooney, color, etc, at 5000+ feet. In AH, planes are just dots at 3000 feet.
Now something we might consider is making the icon distance shorter, like 3K, in all arenas. I've also thought it might be an interesting idea to make the icon "blend" into the surrounding sky/earth/water except at short distances, say beyond 1.5-2K, instead of being bright red all the way. It would still be legible, but you would have to *look* to spot their plane. Don't know how hard this would be to engineer though.
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Alt I is your friend :aok
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BnZ,
Negative on that shorter icon range. I've played "chase the dot" enough already. You spend 5-10 minutes chasing a dot that is running from a dot only to find out you're both on the same side when you finally get to icon range. It bites and is boring. In reality humans with 20/20 vision or better can make out surprising levels of detail at 6,000 yards.
Next time you fly and have a window seat, watch the ground and see how much you can make out as the airliner climbs and cruises, assuming you have good vision.
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That is a point about icon distance. But what about the idea of a more "blended" color icon at longer distances? Like how friendly icons look sometimes when they have the fog effect turned up...legible, but kind of faded, not real noticable. I've ridden in a light plane quite abit, you can indeed make out traffic at quite a distance once you spot it, but they don't jump up and scream "here I am!" the way a crimson icon does.
Another thing...I think there should perhaps be some sort of indication of whether you are approaching a plane's head or tail. A small arrow or the like. I can't tell whether they are coming or going even with zoom at ~1000 with some planes (especially P-38s and 110s for some reason), and closure rate as a clue can be decieving. It sucks to get HOed when you thought you were in a tail chase, or to abort what turns out to be a clean bounce on a 110's tail.
Originally posted by Karnak
BnZ,
Negative on that shorter icon range. I've played "chase the dot" enough already. You spend 5-10 minutes chasing a dot that is running from a dot only to find out you're both on the same side when you finally get to icon range. It bites and is boring. In reality humans with 20/20 vision or better can make out surprising levels of detail at 6,000 yards.
Next time you fly and have a window seat, watch the ground and see how much you can make out as the airliner climbs and cruises, assuming you have good vision.
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wow skuzzy is pwning peoples posts :lol
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Originally posted by BnZ
...Now something we might consider is making the icon distance shorter, like 3K, in all arenas. I've also thought it might be an interesting idea to make the icon "blend" into the surrounding sky/earth/water except at short distances, say beyond 1.5-2K, instead of being bright red all the way. It would still be legible, but you would have to *look* to spot their plane. Don't know how hard this would be to engineer though.
Didn't WWII Online have an icon system similar to this? The longer you "looked" at the dot, the brighter the icon info would become. Take your attention away, and the icon would gradually fade away.
Interesting system compared to the on/off system based on distance we have in AH.