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Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 17, 2008, 12:31:56 AM
Cmon lets put it in the game.......

From historical reference, it was a very good tank and shots from nme fire would just bounce off of it (germans got the idea from the T-34-85) i would really like to see that in and some other tanks!!!!
 :cool:
Title: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: SIG220 on February 17, 2008, 05:11:05 AM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Cmon lets put it in the game.......

From historical reference, it was a very good tank and shots from nme fire would just bounce off of it (germans got the idea from the T-34-85) i would really like to see that in and some other tanks!!!!
 :cool:


If you put the Panther in the game, then no one would ever drive the T34 or Panzer IV again.

SIG 220
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: croduh on February 17, 2008, 11:58:35 AM
That's where the perk points come into!;)
Title: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: Spikes on February 17, 2008, 12:27:25 PM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Cmon lets put it in the game.......

From historical reference, it was a very good tank and shots from nme fire would just bounce off of it (germans got the idea from the T-34-85) i would really like to see that in and some other tanks!!!!
 :cool:


What happened to your M26 you badly wanted?
Title: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: Major Biggles on February 17, 2008, 12:37:11 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
What happened to your M26 you badly wanted?




he's a squeaker, his attention span lasts a few seconds...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: Spikes on February 17, 2008, 12:38:27 PM
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
he's a squeaker, his attention span lasts a few seconds...


True...that thought slipped my mind. :p
Title: Re: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: Latrobe on February 17, 2008, 12:39:18 PM
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
he's a squeaker, his attention span lasts a few seconds...



 :rofl

Oh ya and whats with the pretzel in your avatar? :lol
Title: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 17, 2008, 03:15:10 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
What happened to your M26 you badly wanted?

What can i say, i really like em both, I'd be happy if just 1 came in the game.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: SIG220 on February 17, 2008, 03:47:07 PM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
What can i say, i really like em both, I'd be happy if just 1 came in the game.


The very first M26 to see combat in Europe was knocked out by a Tiger.

The Panther has fast speed and great armor just like the T34, together with a powerful high velocity German gun.

There really is not a single American Tank in the game, since the Firefly was a British variation of the M4 Sherman.

The M10 tank destroyer would be a much better addition, as it was used in large numbers from Normandy on.   Over 7,000 were built, and like the M4, the British also upgraded some of theirs with the powerful 17 pounder gun, designating it the "Wolverine".

The tank would have great visibility with its open top turret for the crew in GV battles.   However, that would also make it more vulnerable to a strafing air attack.

Here is a well preserved M10 stored at an Israeli Army Museum:


(http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/images/IL_Armor_04_220.jpg)


SIG 220
Title: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: SIG220 on February 17, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Cmon lets put it in the game.......

From historical reference, it was a very good tank and shots from nme fire would just bounce off of it (germans got the idea from the T-34-85) i would really like to see that in and some other tanks!!!!
 :cool:


Do you really think that shots will bounce off the Panther's massive sloped frontal armor??

Here is one from the US Army's Ordnance Museum:


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2155_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


Further closeup of the armor:


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2152_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2154_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: Tattered on February 17, 2008, 03:58:22 PM
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Originally posted by SIG220
Do you really think that shots will bounce off the Panther's massive sloped frontal armor??

Here is one from the US Army's Ordnance Museum:


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2155_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


Further closeup of the armor:


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2152_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2154_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


The sloped armor is was caused the hopeful deflection.
Title: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 17, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
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Originally posted by SIG220
Do you really think that shots will bounce off the Panther's massive sloped frontal armor??

Here is one from the US Army's Ordnance Museum:


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2155_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


Further closeup of the armor:


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2152_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


(http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/images/AberdeenProvingGrounds/20060509_2154_NSengupta_AberdeenProvingGroundss.jpg)


Yes I've seen pictures of panthers with 10-20 deflection hits on em

It was a great tank. very powerful.
Title: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on February 18, 2008, 03:40:38 AM
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Cmon lets put it in the game.......

From historical reference, it was a very good tank and shots from nme fire would just bounce off of it (germans got the idea from the T-34-85) i would really like to see that in and some other tanks!!!!
 :cool:


More like the T-34/76. The Germans didn't encounter the T-34/85 until more than a year after the Panther had reached prototype stage.
Title: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 18, 2008, 07:34:00 AM
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Originally posted by LLv34_Snefens
More like the T-34/76. The Germans didn't encounter the T-34/85 until more than a year after the Panther had reached prototype stage.


Well you see what point im trying to make
:rofl :rofl
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: JagdTankker on February 18, 2008, 03:20:18 PM
Winter Panther:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Shot00086.jpg)


Summer Panther:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Shot00164.jpg)


Historical Panther Gunsight:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Shot00094.jpg)
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Motherland on February 18, 2008, 03:43:14 PM
What game is that?
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: JagdTankker on February 18, 2008, 03:47:13 PM
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Originally posted by Motherland
What game is that?


Red Orchestra

I stopped playing the tank side of AH about 3 months ago when i was turned on to this game.It's the most intense multi player tank game out there.A 1 time twenty dollar price tag and free server access.

Some very well planned scenario's and maps.The infantry side of it kinda sux(compared to CTD4) but hitting soviet tanks with a Panzerfaust is a really fun thing to do.That and throwing satchel charges on a german tank with a clown car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFczXNseBC8&eurl=http://www.redorchestragame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24899
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Masherbrum on February 18, 2008, 09:08:22 PM
Do we get the perked "Panther Crew Chiefs" to go with it?    You know, to recover the broken down, problem plagued, rushed into production Panthers?    

Hell, screw it, give me the Maus.    188 tons of loving with a 150mm or 125mm gun, depending on which variant you wish for the Panzer VIII.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 19, 2008, 01:51:18 AM
LETS SEE THE PANTHER!!!!!!!!
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: John Hynds on February 20, 2008, 04:50:48 AM
Yeah put the Panther in while your at it put in the Pershing. 90mm gun, would stand up to the best german tanks out there. Both would have to be perked high. The Panther actually had a semi stabilized gun system because of the suaspension which if modeled correctly would make it possible to shoot and hit something while on the move. And yes on a previous post Panthers and Tigers were basically impervious to frontal kill shots by 75mm guns. It takes a 17pnd or 90mm to kill one with a frontal shot.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Elfie on February 20, 2008, 06:18:50 AM
If we are going to have tanks in the game, then add some more. More T-34 variants, Panther(s), more Shermans, King Tiger, M-26, M-10, Wolverine, M-10's successor (forget designation atm) etc etc etc.
Title: RE: Panther
Post by: VansCrew1 on February 20, 2008, 07:22:35 PM
The Panther would be nice to counter the Sherman Firefly.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 20, 2008, 07:23:41 PM
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
he's a squeaker, his attention span lasts a few seconds...



It has been shown that a squeaker's attention span is shorter than that of a goldfish.


ack-ack
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: derkojote23 on February 23, 2008, 12:39:09 AM
Panthers I can see, Good solid tanks, How about Miltadas, and perhaps even the PZR 3 and the standard Sherman for early war? I mean the t 34 was not early war really, it came after the Pzr4. No way on the King Tiger the perk points for it would be to high for its real value to slow and an easy mark for air, and we cant pull over and hide like thay could. Be greatfull we dont have fule consumption in the GVs, LOL the Tiger may be seen a bit less then LOL.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 23, 2008, 01:51:12 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It has been shown that a squeaker's attention span is shorter than that of a goldfish.


ack-ack



IT IS NOT YOU....oh look a butterfly!!
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: JagdTankker on February 23, 2008, 06:38:44 PM
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Originally posted by derkojote23
I mean the t 34 was not early war really, it came after the Pzr4. .



The T-34 went into production in 1941.

I just wish they would get the load times for the tanks they got now right.The Tiger took longer to load than a T-34 did.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: outbreak on February 23, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
Ok bring ur bigger badder tanks, i got my wish, the Wirbelwind, it will pwn all tanks lmao, i can just imagine it now, sneak up behind a tiger and open up on its rear end with a Wirbelwind's guns :), The fun i am going to have! but a few more tanks wouldnt hurt the game.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on February 23, 2008, 08:53:53 PM
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Originally posted by outbreak
i can just imagine it now, sneak up behind a tiger and open up on its rear end with a Wirbelwind's guns :), The fun i am going to have! but a few more tanks wouldnt hurt the game.



Yea well i dont "fly" that way srry lol
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: John Hynds on February 29, 2008, 07:14:44 PM
M10(Wolverine 3in gun, Achilles 17pnd gun), Stug(since it is in the game already, it's really a PNZ IV with no turret), Cromwell. Also this M3 with a 75mm gun. Could also use the Hetzer(low profile able to hide real well and ambush people).

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/StuG_III_1.jpg)

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/453556991_f25b856423.jpg)

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/M10_destroyer.jpg)

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/Hetzer_1.jpg)

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/Cromwell.jpg)
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: moot on February 29, 2008, 07:39:47 PM
Those turretless tanks have separate track controls, right?
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Peeweesp on February 29, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
its funny the main guy on the panther is made by the same people who make the M1A1's main gun,  Rheinmetall-Borsig i think the panther would be a great additon but, it would have to be perked. Id also like to see the british comet tank also
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: John Hynds on March 01, 2008, 02:57:34 AM
There is another thing I want to point out about the German tanks in the game. The main gun sight. Kinda foolish to have the same sight on all the tanks. There's a previous post that has a picture of the real German gun sight. It really needs to be added to the German tanks.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: John Hynds on March 01, 2008, 03:02:19 AM
Here is the German sight. Used on PNZ IV,V,VI

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/Shot000941.jpg)
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Larry on March 01, 2008, 03:02:33 AM
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Originally posted by John Hynds
There is another thing I want to point out about the German tanks in the game. The main gun sight. Kinda foolish to have the same sight on all the tanks. There's a previous post that has a picture of the real German gun sight. It really needs to be added to the German tanks.




Just on the german tanks huh?:rolleyes:
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: John Hynds on March 01, 2008, 03:52:09 AM
Well don't know what the sight looks like for a M4 but the pic is correct for the German tanks.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: JagdTankker on March 01, 2008, 10:39:05 AM
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Originally posted by John Hynds
Here is the German sight. Used on PNZ IV,V,VI

(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/bigjohn1967/Shot000941.jpg)


thats the panther gun sight.here is the panzer gunsight:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Shot00134.jpg)


The T-34 gunsight:

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Shot00077.jpg)
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: uberslet on March 01, 2008, 11:22:33 AM
as vasn said, it would be nice to counter the Sherman. But what would be the erk cost at a multiplier of 1.00? if its really as good as it seems (never researched something on it) then it would be like the Tiger before we got the Sherman, would it not? I think it osunds like a GREAT idea to add one, but it would be a attack persons dream to bomb one so that the player would lose more perks in the panther.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Bronk on March 01, 2008, 11:24:54 AM
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Originally posted by uberslet
as vasn said, it would be nice to counter the Sherman. But what would be the erk cost at a multiplier of 1.00? if its really as good as it seems (never researched something on it) then it would be like the Tiger before we got the Sherman, would it not? I think it osunds like a GREAT idea to add one, but it would be a attack persons dream to bomb one so that the player would lose more perks in the panther.

The tiger in game is better than the sherman. You just have to be beyond 1.5 away to exploit its armor and gun advantage.
Title: Panther!!!!
Post by: Masherbrum on March 01, 2008, 01:26:09 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
The tiger in game is better than the sherman. You just have to be beyond 1.5 away to exploit its armor and gun advantage.
Why'd you have to let the "Secret" out?   :furious
Title: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: DPQ5 on March 09, 2008, 11:33:18 PM
jonhy person or whatever, thx 2 u i got that game now, and my squad CO to
Title: Re: Panther!!!!
Post by: angelsandair on March 10, 2008, 06:39:54 AM
wtf? I thought this thread died. Ehh owell.