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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on February 17, 2008, 10:37:26 AM
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While I am happy for the people of Kosovo, I suspect that this will bode very badly for them in the near future. The EU is replacing the UN with a police force. I wonder if the majority of the peace keepers might be Serbs or Croats?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/17/kosovo.independence/index.html
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Well...next is gonna be Kurds,Abkhazia,Southern Osetia,Taywan........
Lotta people will die:aok
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Originally posted by KgB
Well...next is gonna be Kurds,Abkhazia,Southern Osetia,Taywan........
Lotta people will die:aok
i can't find "taywan" on my map. :confused:
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Originally posted by john9001
i can't find "taywan" on my map. :confused:
Oh im so friking sorry if you didnt get my point.
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EU will be sending peacekeeping forces, Croatia won't have any forces there.
Only forces Serbia could send at Kosovo are the military forces, but it's too weak to attack anyone now.
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Originally posted by KgB
Oh im so friking sorry if you didnt get my point.
Nice to see that the children are awake this morning.... :rolleyes:
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I did two 6 month deployments to Kosovo. I'm happy for them, though I do see many problems and violence on the way. The area so so mixed ethnically and politically. there will always be a few problems. The Serbs are not happy about this. I predict that Kosovo will stay independent, but some it's leadrers will pay the price along the way i.e. a sniper killing here, a bomb or two there.
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Good.
EU and US again showed that they support genocide, international drug and slave trade. Looks like they are going to get what they deserve.
I advice to give more quotes for Chechen "refugees" - they'll compete at drug and slave markets with Kosovo Albanians.
WTG human rights freaks. I learned that Orthodox and Slavic nations are not "human".
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Let a US state declare independence, see where that gets them
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Originally posted by Boroda
Good.
EU and US again showed that they support genocide, international drug and slave trade. Looks like they are going to get what they deserve.
I advice to give more quotes for Chechen "refugees" - they'll compete at drug and slave markets with Kosovo Albanians.
WTG human rights freaks. I learned that Orthodox and Slavic nations are not "human".
Hmmm..and the Serbs didn't try their hand at genocide? Nice try junior.
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Kosovo Declares it's independence
It's its.
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Originally posted by Rino
Hmmm..and the Serbs didn't try their hand at genocide? Nice try junior.
That still has to be proven.
And they did it without "international" military forces support.
Edit: I mean - NATO forces there share the responsibility for the genocide of Serbs on Serbian land.
I am glad Russian KFOR corps were removed and didn't participate in final stage of this slapstick a-la Chechnya 1991-94.
I think Serbs may just send their troops there and perform another counter-terrorist operation, like Russians did in Chechnya, and all sane nations should support them.
Look, it's a last nail into a coffin of a Yalta/Helsinki world.
Russia may now annex South Osetia and Abkhazia, 95% of people living there already have Russian citizenship, and we feel like protecting our people with full power of arms.
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What my co-worker said:
If you think we are inhuman murderers - sooner or later you'll see us behaving like that.
Nice to see how Western fundamentalists join with Moslim fundamentalists fighting us.
You sow wind - you rip a tempest.
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http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/bosnia_genocide.htm
There's a decent article on Serbian genocide Boroda. Of course, you wouldn't believe that the Serbs had committed genocide even if you saw the atrocities happen with your own eyes. Somehow those people would have deserved whatever treatment they got. :rolleyes:
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They have their own country now. They have no reason to "terrorize" those "peace-loving" slavic nations anymore.
Pavel, you guys and your Serb buddies are safe now ;)
Hmmm.. could that work with Chechenya and others too?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Nice to see that the children are awake this morning.... :rolleyes:
I know,you probably are old enough to be my father:D
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It would be funny if WW3 starts because of this:p
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Originally posted by KgB
Well...next is gonna be Kurds,Abkhazia,Southern Osetia,Taywan........
Lotta people will die:aok
:aok that a lot of people will die eh?
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Nilsen
:aok that a lot of people will die eh?
:rolleyes:
Looks like that's what so-called "new masters of the world" are for.
Abandoning a system that kept world from going down the drain in another global war should have some purpose, don't you think so?
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Originally posted by BlauK
They have their own country now. They have no reason to "terrorize" those "peace-loving" slavic nations anymore.
Pavel, you guys and your Serb buddies are safe now ;)
Hmmm.. could that work with Chechenya and others too?
I think we have drank some good spirits together back in 2004? ;)
Kosovo is a sacred land for all the Serbs. Over a million refugees fled Kosovo after NATO's mass-murdering bombings, when US supported KLA that was declared a terrorist organization by US Congress in Autumn 1998.
You Euros have to understand that Kosovo is a terrorist enclave in the middle of Europe. I bet - 5 years later you'll beg for Serbs to restore order there.
Nice to see US/NATO supporting genocide of Serbs. Like they did in 1995 in Srpska Krajna, over 350,000 victims.
Balkans are a region where all the relations are too complicated. Why not let them alone to mind their own problems? So far it looks like US of A supporting drug trade all over the world.
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Privet Boroda
They will not understand this. :(
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Originally posted by KgB
Well...next is gonna be Kurds,Abkhazia,Southern Osetia,Taywan........
Lotta people will die:aok
You forgot California.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by Boroda
I think we have drank some good spirits together back in 2004? ;)
Kosovo is a sacred land for all the Serbs. Over a million refugees fled Kosovo after NATO's mass-murdering bombings, when US supported KLA that was declared a terrorist organization by US Congress in Autumn 1998.
You Euros have to understand that Kosovo is a terrorist enclave in the middle of Europe. I bet - 5 years later you'll beg for Serbs to restore order there.
Nice to see US/NATO supporting genocide of Serbs. Like they did in 1995 in Srpska Krajna, over 350,000 victims.
Balkans are a region where all the relations are too complicated. Why not let them alone to mind their own problems? So far it looks like US of A supporting drug trade all over the world.
Ah, but you forget how stupid and incompetent American and European leaders are. They have no one that can begin to compare with Putin.
Even the press here in America has recently hailed him as being the greatest man on earth:
(http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/19/putin.jpg)
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Originally posted by BlauK
They have their own country now. They have no reason to "terrorize" those "peace-loving" slavic nations anymore.
Pavel, you guys and your Serb buddies are safe now ;)
Hmmm.. could that work with Chechenya and others too?
You do know what happened in Chechnya when Russian forces were withdrawn,don't you?
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Originally posted by SIG220
You forgot California.
SIG 220
You don't really need to sign as SIG 220 every time you post,we know who you are.Your name is on top left,right above your avatar.
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Boroda, it sounds like you and I spent a good portion of our adult lives prepared to destroy each others nations. I respect you as an old heroic enemy, but your views on international issues remind me of the reasons I served for two decades fighting your ideology.
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Hooah brutha
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Russians really take Nordic antipathy to a whole new level...
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Nice to see US/NATO supporting genocide of Serbs. Like they did in 1995 in Srpska Krajna, over 350,000 victims.
Funny how I've never heard of an atrocity of that magnitude.
While all sides in the former Yugoslavian republic committed atrocities, the worst ones I've heard of were committed by the Serbs. Many thousands died at the hands of the Serbs. Many women and girls suffered rape at the hands of the Serbs.
I have heard of Serbs being evacuated from Croatia w/ the numbers being 150,000 to 200,000 with a majority of those people ending up in Serbia. These people were evacuated by their own government, the Republic of Serbian Krajina which was never formally recognized as an independent country by the international community anyways. This happened in 1995.
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Originally posted by moot
Russians really take Nordic antipathy to a whole new level...
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Originally posted by Boroda
I think we have drank some good spirits together back in 2004? ;)
Yup, we surely did :) Looking forward to doing that again some day.
You Euros have to understand that Kosovo is a terrorist enclave in the middle of Europe. I bet - 5 years later you'll beg for Serbs to restore order there.
I am willing to see that bet. IMO it is the lack of freedom that creates terrorism (in addition to lack of knowledge). Now they will have other, internal, challenges to deal with.
Nice to see US/NATO supporting genocide of Serbs. Like they did in 1995 in Srpska Krajna, over 350,000 victims.
Any references to that? 350,000 dead eh?
I thought the figures were more like over 200,000 refugees and apx. 14,000 killed. However, even that was horrible.
Serbs killed about as many civilians in Kosovo, right?
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Any references to that? 350,000 dead eh?
I thought the figures were more like over 200,000 refugees and apx. 14,000 killed. However, even that was horrible.
Serbs killed about as many civilians in Kosovo, right?
As far as the refugees go, those people were evacuated by their own gov't so I'm not sure how that can be called genocide or ethic cleansing. All three factions in former Yugoslavia were pretty brutal to the other opposing factions. There is some pretty deep seated hatred in that region.
To call out one side without acknowledging the other 2 sides is kinda rediculous imo.
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Ok, i just love arguing on the net:D
Let's start.
350 000 SERBIAN VICTIMS??
They left on their own, and the number of dead Croatians doubles the number of
dead Serbians.And hello, we are the ones who were attacked.We didn't get military help from anyone.We had to smuggle weapons!
Worst massacres were done by Serbs, on Kosovars, on Bosnians and on Croatians.
Every war crime is terrible, and should be punished but please, Serbia attacked us, let's not forget who the real terrorists are here.
I understand that the Russia was always an ally of Serbia, and i won't comment on Kosovo, since it is not mine or any other Croatians business.
Balkan has always been the starter of world wars, from Alexander the Great, Turks, WW1 (for those who didn't know) etc. etc.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
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One of the common traits pretty much exclusive to Nords is that mellow pessimism. I don't know if it's the booze, desert landscapes or long winter nights, or what... Boroda and other Russians like him take it off the scale. It's like the whole world's misery fell on their face.
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Originally posted by moot
One of the common traits pretty much exclusive to Nords is that mellow pessimism. I don't know if it's the booze, desert landscapes or long winter nights, or what... Boroda and other Russians like him take it off the scale. It's like the whole world's misery fell on their face.
First brush up on your geography and then come back.
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Normally Stereotyping is bad but
Every Kosovar Albanian I have met has started at Jerk and progressed up the scale.
Very unpleasant the lot of them, and I met a lot of them.
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Every one has a right for independence.
I declared my back yard as a free republic and appointed myself president for life. My wife is the minister of education, health and internal affairs. My boy is the minister tourism (being the greatest attraction for visitors).
I need to send an ambassador to the state of Israel, so I am considering adopting a dog. There are no dogs in my country so I am having intense diplomatic meetings with the neighboring republics, but their laws of adoptions and animal rights are different than the local ones and cause legal problems.
Time human society goes back to the proven city-states.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
First brush up on your geography and then come back.
Huh? I said I didn't know what caused that typical trait of Nordics and supposed it could by any of those things. I didn't say it was the cause, nor that they existed as I described them. Except for the booze part, there's no doubt about that.
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Originally posted by bozon
Every one has a right for independence.
Not really no.
This is a completely idiotic move by the retarded kosovars. I sincerely hope that no one recognizes them, because the precendent it would set would be insanely bad.
If kosovo is granted independence, then we have a situation where NATO/EU went into another nation, without a UN resolution, and by using force of arms, broke up that nation and created a new nation from a part of it.
Now think on this for a second, and then consider the implications. For Kurdistan, Palestine, Tibet, Taiwan...all of which have an enormously greater claim to independence than a handful of gypsies and thugs trying to carve out a nation in Kosovo right now.
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Croduh,
what is your opinion about this page: The Invasion of Serbian Krajina (http://www.tenc.net/articles/elich/krajina.html) ?
I am not taking any sides here, just wondering. The text seems pretty one sided though. The writer is elsewhere portrayed as "model investigative journalist of the anti-imperialist left" :rolleyes:
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Oh and those bumper stickers that say, no one died when Clinton lied. I am reminded of those poor serbs on the train crossing the bridge when Slick Willy said...hey everyone look over here,
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Originally posted by moot
Huh? I said I didn't know what caused that typical trait of Nordics and supposed it could by any of those things. I didn't say it was the cause, nor that they existed as I described them. Except for the booze part, there's no doubt about that.
Russia is not Nordic. ;)
"The Nordic countries make up a region in Northern Europe called the Nordic region, consisting of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden and their associated territories which include the Faroe Islands, Greenland, and Åland"
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I know Nilsen. But if you run the gamut of all countries from one to the next (e.g. from western europe to eastern asia), many cultural patterns aren't discontinuous from one country to the next, but gradual.
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Originally posted by moot
I know Nilsen. But if you run the gamut of all countries from one to the next (e.g. from western europe to eastern asia), many cultural patterns aren't discontinuous from one country to the next, but gradual.
Not at all. I guess you havent been in the region, but there are no similarities between nordic people and russians other than the fact that we are all humans and dont go to war with eachother (except the fins and swedes :D ).
The russians have far more in common with the slavic both in temperament, behavior and history. The one thing we do have in common is borders and friendly trading that has gone on from the viking age and up to now. Norway is actually the only bordering country that Russia has never been at war with, and the only country that the russians withdrew from after the second world war.
Put 10 "typical" norwegians and 10 "typical" russians in a room and i will bet a months wages that you can separate them all within a few minutes ;) You dont even have to hear them speak. Looks and hand gestures will be enough
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According to the Russian Primary Chronicle (ca. 1040-1118 AD), the Rus were a group of "Varangians," possibly of Swedish origin, who had a leader named Rurik. Rus appears to be derived from the Finnish word for Sweden, *Rotsi, later Ruotsi, which in turn comes from Old Swedish rother, a word associated with rowing or ships, so that rothskarlar meant "rowers" or "seamen."
source (http://www.clanrossi.com/Viking%20Rus.htm)
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It looks a lot different from an outsider's perspective. There's a pretty big difference in almost any aspect between Vietnamese and Japanese people, but they both have certain qualities that you just don't find anywhere else outside of eastern-most asia. It doesn't mean the two people are the same for as much...
I could definitely tell a russian from a nordic, and they do have more in common with slavics than nordics like you describe. But that trait I'm talking about really is unique to the high latitudes of eastern europe.
And KgB and Boroda definitely have it. :p Like I said, it's like nordic mellow pessimism but x10 and more bitter and antipathetic.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
...we are all humans and dont go to war with eachother (except the fins and swedes :D
Hmmm... who were those two nations fighting eachother in 1814 :p ...Norwegians and Swedes? ;)
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Originally posted by BlauK
Hmmm... who were those two nations fighting eachother in 1814 :p ...Norwegians and Swedes? ;)
Nobody fought eachother in 1814 actually. IT was a friendly argument ;)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
According to the Russian Primary Chronicle (ca. 1040-1118 AD), the Rus were a group of "Varangians," possibly of Swedish origin, who had a leader named Rurik. Rus appears to be derived from the Finnish word for Sweden, *Rotsi, later Ruotsi, which in turn comes from Old Swedish rother, a word associated with rowing or ships, so that rothskarlar meant "rowers" or "seamen."
source (http://www.clanrossi.com/Viking%20Rus.htm)
And if you go further back then we have Adam and Eve :lol
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Nobody?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_campaign_against_Norway_(1814)
Or were you thinking of 1905, when things went peacefully?
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Originally posted by BlauK
Croduh,
what is your opinion about this page: The Invasion of Serbian Krajina (http://www.tenc.net/articles/elich/krajina.html) ?
I am not taking any sides here, just wondering. The text seems pretty one sided though. The writer is elsewhere portrayed as "model investigative journalist of the anti-imperialist left" :rolleyes:
There are so many one sides stories published and on net that it's very hard to conclude what's the real truth.
That article is written shows quite clearly that the writer has taken sides, which destroys the articles credibility.Although he did write many facts he wrote only those who he found suitable to bash Nato and Croatia.
Yes, there was a war crime, but the writer really makes every Croatian as an ustasha and a war criminal, all backed up by Nato and US, which he bashes in his every book.
Too exaggerating, if you ask me, and sometimes very wrong.
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Originally posted by moot
It looks a lot different from an outsider's perspective. There's a pretty big difference in almost any aspect between Vietnamese and Japanese people, but they both have certain qualities that you just don't find anywhere else outside of eastern-most asia. It doesn't mean the two people are the same for as much...
I could definitely tell a russian from a nordic, and they do have more in common with slavics than nordics like you describe. But that trait I'm talking about really is unique to the high latitudes of eastern europe.
And KgB and Boroda definitely have it. :p Like I said, it's like nordic mellow pessimism but x10 and more bitter and antipathetic.
To settle this i will refer to one decisive thing that is so fundamental that it will settle this once and for all.
Russians like to drink vodka straight up from a glass.. Norwegians prefer whisky or cognac. Nuff said :lol
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Originally posted by BlauK
Nobody?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_campaign_against_Norway_(1814)
Or were you thinking of 1905, when things went peacefully?
Acually you got me there :D I got my two events mixed up as i dont remeber much from back then :D
The egg is running from my face :lol
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Originally posted by BlauK
Croduh,
what is your opinion about this page: The Invasion of Serbian Krajina (http://www.tenc.net/articles/elich/krajina.html) ?
I am not taking any sides here, just wondering. The text seems pretty one sided though. The writer is elsewhere portrayed as "model investigative journalist of the anti-imperialist left" :rolleyes:
That's an interesting perspective. It tells of Serbs being forcibly removed from Croatia and yet the other two articles I read spoke of the Serbs being evacuated by their own government. I linked one of them earlier, guess I should have linked both since I can't recall where the other one was.
Assuming this account is true, the Croats have done no worse than the Serbs and Bosnians. All three parties are guilty of war crimes.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
To settle this i will refer to one decisive thing that is so fundamental that it will settle this once and for all.
Russians like to drink vodka straight up from a glass.. Norwegians prefer whisky or cognac. Nuff said :lol
You mean the Nordics never came up with a spirit of their own? :p Looks like Kilju from Finland is the only alcohol that originated from up there.. Akevitt's from Norway but I've never heard of it before now. How common is it?
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Originally posted by moot
You mean the Nordics never came up with a spirit of their own? :p Looks like Kilju from Finland is the only alcohol that originated from up there.. Akevitt's from Norway but I've never heard of it before now. How common is it?
Yeah we have made beer and spirits for a loooong time but usually mix it with something (not the beer ofcourse) :D
Akkevit is norwegian, but usually only consumed during xmas as a traditional shot used to "break up" the fatty foods eaten on xmas eve. Personally i think it tastes like crap and so does most people of my generation and younger. I think the older people are more used to the taste and can tolerate it :D
My advice is to never try it.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
And if you go further back then we have Adam and Eve :lol
That the Rus were a nordic tribe and nordic peoples are what the people and the country are named for, well... I thought that the term Russian derives from swede in the finnish language was an interesting sidelite.
That the mongols and slavs ruled and populated the country since the norse... well differing peoples are now immigrating to scandanavia now aren't they. Perhaps Norway will one day not be nordic.
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Originally posted by moot
You mean the Nordics never came up with a spirit of their own? :p Looks like Kilju from Finland is the only alcohol that originated from up there.. Akevitt's from Norway but I've never heard of it before now. How common is it?
Durned, Moot. Where do you scoop all those bits and pieces about Finns?? :)
I would not consider Kilju an actual drink, maybe if it was further processed into Pontikka (moonshine): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilju
However, there is a Finnish speciality called Sahti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahti
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Originally posted by croduh
Ok, i just love arguing on the net:D
Me too, so nothing personal, please. I am far from thinking that every Croatian is an "ustash".
Originally posted by croduh
350 000 SERBIAN VICTIMS??
They left on their own, and the number of dead Croatians doubles the number of
dead Serbians.And hello, we are the ones who were attacked.We didn't get military help from anyone.We had to smuggle weapons!
Worst massacres were done by Serbs, on Kosovars, on Bosnians and on Croatians.
Every war crime is terrible, and should be punished but please, Serbia attacked us, let's not forget who the real terrorists are here.
I understand that the Russia was always an ally of Serbia, and i won't comment on Kosovo, since it is not mine or any other Croatians business.
Balkan has always been the starter of world wars, from Alexander the Great, Turks, WW1 (for those who didn't know) etc. etc.
I said 350,000 victims of "deportation", not "dead".
BlauK gave a link on an interesting article, that is outside of media "mainstream".
Look, now the main media concept is that Serbs are the only side responsible for war crimes. How many Croatian generals were brought to Hague for trial?... And they face accusations no less serious then Serbs.
As for Kosovo - total number of casualities on each side before bombings began was about 200 people. US/NATO killed 10 times more and gave Serbs a reason for a police operation similar to what Croats did in Krajna, but in that case many Kosovars were fleeding because they were killed by "peacekeeping bombings" as well as Serbs.
What we got now: Kosovo, a heart of Serbia (I am not going to educate _you_ on this subject, I bet you can tell the whole story from 1389 and before better then I) is now ethnically cleansed from natives, without any opposition from KFOR. We have a precedent that sends 1975 Helsinki act down the drain. We have a bunch of irresponsible EU politicians who officially support a Chechen-style gangster enclave in Europe.
Serbs tried to solve a problem that EU will face now, by restoring law and order, acting their part of a "war on terror", but they got bombed instead of support.
EU countries supporting Chechen terrorists, giving them political asylum, supporting so-called "rebels" also tend to recognize Kosovo. This people want to kill me, my family, friends and compatriots. That's a little more then almost non-existent "cultural ties" between Russia and Serbia.
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Originally posted by BlauK
Durned, Moot. Where do you scoop all those bits and pieces about Finns?? :)
I would not consider Kilju an actual drink, maybe if it was further processed into Pontikka (moonshine): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilju
However, there is a Finnish speciality called Sahti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahti
I understand that it's kinda silly to bring spirits from Finland to Russia, but if you guys come again - please, bring some of that stuff with you ;)
In 2004 I brought a bottle of pepper vodka, next time you'll bring your national booze :) I think we can call it a cultural exchange :D
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I said 350,000 victims of "deportation", not "dead".
Almost....but not quite.....
Nice to see US/NATO supporting genocide of Serbs. Like they did in 1995 in Srpska Krajna, over 350,000 victims.
Definition of genocide: The deliberate and systematic destruction of an entire people who belong to one racial, political, cultural or religious group.
So by using the term genocide you did say *dead*. How else would you achieve the destruction of an entire people other than killing them?
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Originally posted by Elfie
Almost....but not quite.....
Definition of genocide: The deliberate and systematic destruction of an entire people who belong to one racial, political, cultural or religious group.
So by using the term genocide you did say *dead*. How else would you achieve the destruction of an entire people other than killing them?
I already elaborated it, didn't I?
An estimated number of Serbs killed in Krajna 1995 is 10-20 thousand.
BTW, didn't you know that "genocide" accusations were removed from Slobodan Miloshevich in Hague?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
And if you go further back then we have Adam and Eve :lol
I blame Eve... face it she was always 'ribbin" Adam...
*badda bang*
Mac
Ohhh c'mon that was good.
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Originally posted by AWMac
I blame Eve... face it she was always 'ribbin" Adam...
*badda bang*
Mac
Ohhh c'mon that was good.
That joke was a crime against humanity.
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Originally posted by C(Sea)Bass
That joke was a crime against humanity.
How? What was wrong with that?
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Look, now the main media concept is that Serbs are the only side responsible for war crimes. How many Croatian generals were brought to Hague for trial?... And they face accusations no less serious then Serbs.
All three sides (Bosnians, Croats and Serbs) in the former Yugoslavia are guilty of war crimes. As I said before, the hatred in this region runs deep indeed.
I agree though, the mainstream media seems to only report the Serb atrocities and I'm not sure why.
BTW, didn't you know that "genocide" accusations were removed from Slobodan Miloshevich in Hague?
According to the definition of genocide I don't believe the Serbs attempted that. So dropping that charge is a good thing imo.
I already elaborated it, didn't I?
I thought you were trying to change your argument, so in the spirit of the O'Club I quoted both things you said and called you on it. :D
If thats not what you were trying to do, my apologies, if it is in fact what you were doing....well, I've already made a post that covers that. :D
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Originally posted by AWMac
How? What was wrong with that?
It was the most awful thing ever imposed on human beings.
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I admit to not being very educated about the complex history of the region but the one burning question I have is this: Whats wrong with an independant Kosovo? Please keep answer to one sentence not to exceed three words.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Not really no.
Hortlund, you obviously missed my point. I was being sarcastic.
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Originally posted by BlauK
Durned, Moot. Where do you scoop all those bits and pieces about Finns?? :)
I would not consider Kilju an actual drink, maybe if it was further processed into Pontikka (moonshine): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilju
However, there is a Finnish speciality called Sahti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahti
My dad.. I'll try out Sahti when I get a chance. :)
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Originally posted by Yeager
I admit to not being very educated about the complex history of the region but the one burning question I have is this: Whats wrong with an independant Kosovo? Please keep answer to one sentence not to exceed three words.
Chain reaction.
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Originally posted by Yeager
I admit to not being very educated about the complex history of the region but the one burning question I have is this: Whats wrong with an independant Kosovo? Please keep answer to one sentence not to exceed three words.
it's simple...
World War Three
(sound byte edition :aok )
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they are rioting right now jumping tanks and such. here come the police should be interesting 100k in belgrade. Fires set outside U.S. emb.
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damn... US making enemies again...
whoever in the US supports this movement should study the history of that region and see why they should not get involved there.
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100k people currently in the streets are peaceful protesters.200 of the rioters are just kids that have nothing to do, and football fans.They would riot over anything.
I enjoyed watching them molest the armored cars on cnn;)
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The riot squad are on the news, all lined up and marching down the street looking like they mean business. Almost like a scene from spartacus, braveheart or lotr.
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Originally posted by croduh
100k people currently in the streets are peaceful protesters.200 of the rioters are just kids that have nothing to do, and football fans.They would riot over anything.
I enjoyed watching them molest the armored cars on cnn;)
those 200 are prolly football fans too. wonder what team they normally fight for
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Originally posted by Nilsen
those 200 are prolly football fans too. wonder what team they normally fight for
Crvena Zvezda?
To Croduh: I think if you guys could keep a Yugoslavian national team - you could easily reach Euro finals, like USSR did in 1988.
Here people talk about uniting Slavic republic championships (RU, UA and BY), and forming a Commonwealth united national team. I imagine Shevchenko playing together with Arshavin, Sychov and other Russians, Georgians and so on...
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Let a US state declare independence, see where that gets them
Just a few more Mexicans and California will be ready. ;)
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1914:
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