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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: B@tfinkV on February 17, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
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i only write this now because conveying a point over ch200 is never easy.
it isnt a matter of bravado if i ask you to DA after an incident, not every time.
you did well from a good starting position and kept me and my wingman below you and slower. after a while we decided that the mini horde that was climbing up to us was more of a threat than you.
so, my wing in his p47 kept chasing you upwards while i dived in on the nearest spit16 gangbanging another squaddy 4000ft below us.
2 mins later i hear 'check 6 bat, that 190A8 still wants you' from my wingman who you are now running from after losing your E. i look back in my mossy and see you d400, pull up and start rolling and you clip off vital parts. good shot. So i salute on 200 and commend your gunnery.
next thing we hear is:
'LOL now your p47 bud is running!' 'cant take it anymore [name]? lame wuss'
what you probably didnt know was he had been fighting you with parts missing and stuck down the whole time anyhow and was getting low on fuel after chasing you for so long.
so i asked you to DA 1 on 1 to back up your bragging. you refused and even started insulting my whole squad in general.
All fun and games, we dont care much what you think of us anyhow.
the reason i asked you to DA was simple. to restore my respect in you after you so immaturely bragged on our compliments.
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This thread is of interest.
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I have known BatfINk for a while and don't question this post at all... :noid
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And I'm fairly sure that we can agree that Adonai is one of the biggest trash talkers on this game. I for one am glad he switched from the Bishop side a few tours ago. Morale has improved! That being said, I wouldnt bother about the continous stream of garbage flowing from him.
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Wow, <
> to Bat's wingie for sticking with it.
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Trash talking, then refusing to fight 1v1 shows both insecurity and weakness of character.
Bat is no slouch, and I've seen him gladly help many (including me) improve theit game. Ego doesn't seem all that high on his priorities, and it seems to me that things must have been pretty bad for him to post here. Glad I missed that part of the show....
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The title of the thread says it all, not much skill, large amounts of bull!
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Wow, <> to Bat's wingie for sticking with it.
It's what we do. What it amounts to is being bait for Batfink though. :)
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Batfink is a great guy to duel. He has done nothing but encourage me every time I've dealt with him in the DA.
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Originally posted by Simaril
Trash talking, then refusing to fight 1v1 shows both insecurity and weakness of character.
Bat is no slouch, and I've seen him gladly help many (including me) improve theit game. Ego doesn't seem all that high on his priorities, and it seems to me that things must have been pretty bad for him to post here. Glad I missed that part of the show....
Agreed.
donkey
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Pwah...A scorepotato calling someone out on Ch 200? :rofl
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This thread was bound to happen sooner or later.
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Originally posted by Xargos
Batfink is a great guy to duel. He has done nothing but encourage me every time I've dealt with him in the DA.
Same here. Class act all the way. :aok
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Originally posted by Stang
This thread was bound to happen sooner or later.
My bet was sooner. Rank clouds the feeble minded.
And $20 on batfink.:aok
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Adonai is the essence of whine. Batfink is the essence of the type of player we all respect.
I have asked Adonai to the DA more than once and there's always an excuse.
I DA Batfink when I have the fortunate opportunity to meet him there. It is always fun.
Adonai, everyone sees you whinin' on 200 perpetually. Learn that ppl hate it and shut up.
And yes, if you don't watch ur 6 when ur shootin' at somebody, someone is gonna pick u if ur in the middle of a frickin' furball. We all learned that 3 days into the game, for some reason u never have and feel compelled to call ppl pickers and whine about it on 200. Ppl will clear their sqaudies and countrymen, it will always be that way. I just don't get u and ppl like u. When ur in a furball, watch what is happening around u and adjust. U may not get to kill that guy that is right in ur gun sight b/c there is someone that is gonna kill u. Break off and live and spare all of us the biotchin'...
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Oh yeah, and $20 on Batfink, please...
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Batfink is an excellent person and dueler. Haven't seen anything but class from him.
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One of my all time favorite fights was against Batfink.
Batty, didn't know I only got half your wing. :D
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Originally posted by SunBat
And yes, if you don't watch ur 6 when ur shootin' at somebody, someone is gonna pick u if ur in the middle of a frickin' furball.
No.. If a fight looks like it's fun, some people will let it go on.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
i only write this now because conveying a point over ch200 is never easy.
it isnt a matter of bravado if i ask you to DA after an incident, not every time.
you did well from a good starting position and kept me and my wingman below you and slower. after a while we decided that the mini horde that was climbing up to us was more of a threat than you.
so, my wing in his p47 kept chasing you upwards while i dived in on the nearest spit16 gangbanging another squaddy 4000ft below us.
2 mins later i hear 'check 6 bat, that 190A8 still wants you' from my wingman who you are now running from after losing your E. i look back in my mossy and see you d400, pull up and start rolling and you clip off vital parts. good shot. So i salute on 200 and commend your gunnery.
next thing we hear is:
'LOL now your p47 bud is running!' 'cant take it anymore [name]? lame wuss'
what you probably didnt know was he had been fighting you with parts missing and stuck down the whole time anyhow and was getting low on fuel after chasing you for so long.
so i asked you to DA 1 on 1 to back up your bragging. you refused and even started insulting my whole squad in general.
All fun and games, we dont care much what you think of us anyhow.
the reason i asked you to DA was simple. to restore my respect in you after you so immaturely bragged on our compliments.
If someone challanges you to the DA, you do it to atleast prove you got balls, I havent been challanged too much though cuz i usually keep my mouth shut. But then again Adonai, not everyone has a pair of balls.
Oh yea, and when you complain on 200 for picking, thats 90% of your kills right there.
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Originally posted by moot
No.. If a fight looks like it's fun, some people will let it go on.
I agree with that and do let fights proceed very often, especially in early war, midwar, the DA and AvA and in late war areas that are quieter. However, if a sqaudy or countryman asks for help, I'm not gonna leave him hanging.
Anyway, my point above is that you really can't be surprised when u get picked in a huge furball in late war especially. I wish it were different, but its not. When it happens, just shut up. There are many ppl who make it out of the messy furballs with kills and land them. You have, I have, Adonai has, if u get picked in the middle of it, oh well. Ur fault, not theirs.
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Sticks and stones, bat, nothing more... 200 is the smack-talk channel.
Bat
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You got killed 1vs2, quit the whining already, its been logged. You tried to insult me saying some random garbage I was 5k above you yatta yatta, I was climbing to your P47-D11 and Mossy vs a Fw-190a8.
If you haven't insulted, none of it would of started. I only laughed at the P47 for running away after being on my 6 when odds were turned against him for once.
instead of 1 on 2 it was 3 on 1, your insults to my flying EVEN when odds were against me is what pissed me off. Then you shoot your mouth off bout a DA 190a8 vs Mossy.
Fact of matter was I engaged 2 Guys, with P47 Rolling behind me after 3-4 turns with mossy, I extended to keep my E up, seen you lower, and rolled in for you.
Now you probably did Dive on a spit, you still started the engagement with me, and I kept an eye on everything around me, its called SA.
I was lucky however, P47 ran for home. And I said: If you didnt start off the insulting towards me I'd simply And been on my business, but naturally AGAIN with this forum post, you show you want to Instigate a fight. to your attitude.
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Bat. You did good.
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Originally posted by SunBat
I agree with that and do let fights proceed very often, especially in early war, midwar, the DA and AvA and in late war areas that are quieter. However, if a sqaudy or countryman asks for help, I'm not gonna leave him hanging.
Anyway, my point above is that you really can't be surprised when u get picked in a huge furball in late war especially. I wish it were different, but its not. When it happens, just shut up. There are many ppl who make it out of the messy furballs with kills and land them. You have, I have, Adonai has, if u get picked in the middle of it, oh well. Ur fault, not theirs.
Especailly when you are fighting rooks
They are the #1 pickers honestly.
I dont think ive been picked by a knit more than 10 times.
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Especailly when you are fighting rooks
They are the #1 pickers honestly.
I dont think ive been picked by a knit more than 10 times.
LOL, I can't help but notice ur location under ur avatar. Sounds like a pick to me.
Anyway, all 3 countries do it. The knits do it just as much as the bish and the mighty rooks. Just gotta watch ur back and have ur squaddies there to watch it for ya.
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Originally posted by Adonai
If you didnt start off the insulting towards me I'd simply And been on my business...
Sorry, but that does not comport with past history.
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Adonia is one of the few WOT I don't have alot respect for. Bat is a class act guy for sure!
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Seems to me it's just the ongoing cycle of Aces High. Any of us who have been around any length of time have seen it numerous times.
It's part of progressing from thinking anything we do in the game matters to realizing it's just for fun and that all the chest thumping, calling em out, I'm gonna kick your cartoon backside from here to there is just what some folks have to go through before they figure it out.
We've all done it to some degree or another, thinking we, our squad, our 'flying' ability or something else we've done makes us king of the hill. We can all name many a player who has never lost a fight outside of those where the other guy:
-picked
-pulled his cable
-stick stirred
-HO'd
-ran to friends
-Was in an LA, Spit 16 or whatever dweeb plane you want to name
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Once you get past that, the game is much more fun. And generally everyone gets there.
Just not worth getting worked up about. Until we start really dying it just doesn't matter who thinks they're 'bestest"
All the cartoon 'smack talk' in the world, amounts to absolutely nothing in the overall scheme of things :)
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It just goes to show that you can move em around but underneath its still an OreO with a mushy center....
BTW $20 on Bat:aok
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^^^^
Well said, corky.
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Originally posted by Husky01
Adonia is one of the few WOT I don't have alot respect for. Bat is a class act guy for sure!
class act, for sure. Nothing but an act:)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Seems to me it's just the ongoing cycle of Aces High. Any of us who have been around any length of time have seen it numerous times.
It's part of progressing from thinking anything we do in the game matters to realizing it's just for fun and that all the chest thumping, calling em out, I'm gonna kick your cartoon backside from here to there is just what some folks have to go through before they figure it out.
We've all done it to some degree or another, thinking we, our squad, our 'flying' ability or something else we've done makes us king of the hill. We can all name many a player who has never lost a fight outside of those where the other guy:
-picked
-pulled his cable
-stick stirred
-HO'd
-ran to friends
-Was in an LA, Spit 16 or whatever dweeb plane you want to name
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Once you get past that, the game is much more fun. And generally everyone gets there.
Just not worth getting worked up about. Until we start really dying it just doesn't matter who thinks they're 'bestest"
All the cartoon 'smack talk' in the world, amounts to absolutely nothing in the overall scheme of things :)
I agree its just a game, its not like your gonna be on a world tour or showered with cash for being the greatest in AH... try going to the bar and bring your high score and see how Lucky you get...lol..Ive had ch 200 off for months now and enjoy the game much better..
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I win all my fights with my SAPP hack. Our (secret, shhh!) association pulled some booze together and bribed HT into allowing our 38s to do incredible things. Some examples are, killing tanks without firing a shot, and hovering.
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Originally posted by Adonai
You got killed 1vs2, quit the whining already, its been logged. You tried to insult me saying some random garbage I was 5k above you yatta yatta, I was climbing to your P47-D11 and Mossy vs a Fw-190a8.
If you haven't insulted, none of it would of started. I only laughed at the P47 for running away after being on my 6 when odds were turned against him for once.
instead of 1 on 2 it was 3 on 1, your insults to my flying EVEN when odds were against me is what pissed me off. Then you shoot your mouth off bout a DA 190a8 vs Mossy.
Fact of matter was I engaged 2 Guys, with P47 Rolling behind me after 3-4 turns with mossy, I extended to keep my E up, seen you lower, and rolled in for you.
Now you probably did Dive on a spit, you still started the engagement with me, and I kept an eye on everything around me, its called SA.
I was lucky however, P47 ran for home. And I said: If you didnt start off the insulting towards me I'd simply And been on my business, but naturally AGAIN with this forum post, you show you want to Instigate a fight. to your attitude.
Originally posted by Adonai
class act, for sure. Nothing but an act:)
yet you are the only one acting. lies sounds better than acting infact.
you didnt think i really had the film, did you?
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/adonai.ahf
quite clearly, niether myself or redtop say anything provoking to you.
also, please note your altitude when your name first comes up on the list, and listen to our squad vox. incredible that you could come here and openly lie about this to save face.
thanks to those with similar thoughts here S! this is my last post on the matter.
remember, its not about the fight, its about your attitude and running your mouth about a whole group of friends you know nothing about.
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It just keeps going and going and going.
:D
#S#
Banshee7
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The John Wayne Bobbit story:rofl
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Originally posted by Adonai
If you haven't insulted, none of it would of started. I only laughed at the P47 for running away after being on my 6 when odds were turned against him for once.
I agree. Nothing worse than getting a salute after killing the guy. This stuff really has to stop.
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Originally posted by SunBat
LOL, I can't help but notice ur location under ur avatar. Sounds like a pick to me.
Anyway, all 3 countries do it. The knits do it just as much as the bish and the mighty rooks. Just gotta watch ur back and have ur squaddies there to watch it for ya.
I suck at it, i can kind of do it in an F4U-1 hog but nothing else........
Im more of a furballer, thats my best thing
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Originally posted by Adonai
And I said: If you didnt start off the insulting towards me I'd simply And been on my business, but naturally AGAIN with this forum post, you show you want to Instigate a fight. to your attitude.
I find your above comments to be rather funny since from my experience and from what I've seen on channel 200, you're the instigator almost 100% of the time. It appears that oDALLASo was a major influence on you, you're doing a bang up job following in his foot steps.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I find your above comments to be rather funny since from my experience and from what I've seen on channel 200, you're the instigator almost 100% of the time. It appears that oDALLASo was a major influence on you, you're doing a bang up job following in his foot steps.
ack-ack
Do you always instigate a fight while climbing to 20k?
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Originally posted by mensa180
I win all my fights with my SAPP hack. Our (secret, shhh!) association pulled some booze together and bribed HT into allowing our 38s to do incredible things. Some examples are, killing tanks without firing a shot, and hovering.
Don't worry they know already. Twinboom was helping me out and telling me which ones to use. Little did we know he was broadcasting on 200. But now since we're on the subject, did we get the hack for no tracers yet?
donkey
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Originally posted by Adonai
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2556312/2/istockphoto_2556312_cry_baby.jpg)
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Stang
This thread was bound to happen sooner or later.
Yes, goes around comes around eventually.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Xargos
Batfink is a great guy to duel. He has done nothing but encourage me every time I've dealt with him in the DA.
Couldn't have said ot better myself. <> to you Mr.Bat and to your wingman
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Adonai, why dont you just take him in the DA??? If you provoke fights atleast step up when they challange you to the DA.
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Player- "Adonia, why not lets just go to the DA where we can have a few fights that are on an equal basis?"
Adonia- "Shut it, I just pwned you, why would I need to go to the DA and do it."
Player- "Because you talked crap just then when you were the 4th plane to take an attempt on me while I was already fighting 3."
Adonia- "I easily took your 6 position and shot you out of the air."
Player- "I realise you got the kill, but I was in a rolling scissors with 3 others when you got me. Why not just lets go to the DA for some 1 vs 1 in equal planes and equal E if you want to brag, then after actually fighting me 1 vs 1 would be a good time for that?"
Adonia- "I've already pwned you, now stop whining."
From the encounters I've had with Adonia, it's usually he above the fight on the edges of a furball cherry picking or gangbanging. I think Bat would slap him around for sure but Adonia is not ready for his ego to be crushed like that. Some just refuse an invitation to fight because they are unsure of themselves in a 1 vs 1 down in the dirt actual fight, and some are just fearful they would lose face and their rank/clout position in the MA! Others see it as too abrasive of an offer to partake in, and still then some just see it as childish. One thing is for certain, the TA is where newbs learn, and the DA is where newb graduates learn.
If you're in the dark about how to use acm and stall fighting to it's full potential in a 1 vs 1, then cherrypicking 1000 planes a month is going to bring you no closer to that knowlege, only fighting will.:aok
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I was in MW the other day and little don was griping about being HO'd constantly. The first time I encounter him he is attacking one of our bases with a bunch of others. I am flying out and see his corsair coming straight in (at the time I did not know who it was). It looks like he is going for the Ho so I dive and watch as he presses his nose down to make the HO. I can only assume that the HO's he was griping about are ones he instigated and lost. As it ended up one of his higher friends came in and finished my 38 as I was rolling onto little don's 6.
Funny part is when I called him on the HO he immediately tried to say I was the one that HO'd. He then kept on whining about HO's.
He should paint his face and join Ringling Brothers.
No matter what anyone thinks or says of theirself. The community will see the real person over time. The community judges you by your actions not by what you say about yourself.
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Adonai is without a doubt the most odious little person I have had the misfortune to run across.
My first action upon entering the main arena is to squelch him. I would gladly pay double my subscription if he was removed from the game.
Regards
wipass
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Seems to me it's just the ongoing cycle of Aces High. Any of us who have been around any length of time have seen it numerous times.
It's part of progressing from thinking anything we do in the game matters to realizing it's just for fun and that all the chest thumping, calling em out, I'm gonna kick your cartoon backside from here to there is just what some folks have to go through before they figure it out.
We've all done it to some degree or another, thinking we, our squad, our 'flying' ability or something else we've done makes us king of the hill. We can all name many a player who has never lost a fight outside of those where the other guy:
-picked
-pulled his cable
-stick stirred
-HO'd
-ran to friends
-Was in an LA, Spit 16 or whatever dweeb plane you want to name
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Once you get past that, the game is much more fun. And generally everyone gets there.
Just not worth getting worked up about. Until we start really dying it just doesn't matter who thinks they're 'bestest"
All the cartoon 'smack talk' in the world, amounts to absolutely nothing in the overall scheme of things :)
Everything Corky said. This is so true!:aok
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Originally posted by Adonai
[To Ack-ack]Do you always instigate a fight while climbing to 20k?
Interesting response..once Bat's film is posted your previous claims proved to be lies, I suppose diverting attention by attacking another victim only makes sense.
That is, it makes sense if someone lacks the kind of basic integrity we're suposed to learn in kindergarten. As in, "I sorry I took your jello. It was bad."
As a wise person said long ago, "A man's character determines his destiny." Or in more modern terms, "People usually get the relationships they deserve." So best wishes for you if you continue on your current course, Adonai.
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For the past two weeks, I have seen this between two other players against Adonia. They both asked him to DA and he began to insult the player and calling him a "wuss".
Now I know that Adoina would beat me easy in the DA, but the people who he was bad mouthing too, were some decent players.
It dosen't make sense to me that you can talk all of the crap Adonia, and not back it up. If you think that you are better than he is by beating him in the MA, then your wrong. I asked you a few times to DA these people so I didn't have to listen to this crap on ch 200.
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This is a perfect example of why you should detune 200. Before I eradicated 200 from my radio, I cannot tell you one, repeat, one positive thing coming over that freq. The game is much more enjoyable without it.
No matter how by-the-book you score a kill, someone at some point is going to whine, cry and complain on 200 about it. They attempt to get under your skin and force a reaction from you. With 200 off, you never see it. They get no reaction and they look stupid crying to nobody. You win, they lose...twice.
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ya know, it's funny.
I have yet to have someone complain about me killing them on 200.
I just wanna have that satisfaction sometime.
So, if you happen to have read this, and if by some miracle I'm able to shoot you down, please be a good sport and at least call me a few dirty names....maybe even question my mother's honor, if you feel so inclined.
You will be rewarded! Compensation shall be determined upon the circumstances (as well as the quality of the public berating), but I assure you, you will log that night satisfied.
Thank you for your prompt attention in this manner. Have a nice flight. :)
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Originally posted by Roundeye
No matter how by-the-book you score a kill, someone at some point is going to whine, cry and complain on 200 about it.
Spot on roundeye. PM's or salutes. If the PM's are outright stupidity I'll put them right then squelch.
200 always seems to be much louder when all the Americans login.
:t
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Originally posted by Roundeye
This is a perfect example of why you should detune 200. Before I eradicated 200 from my radio, I cannot tell you one, repeat, one positive thing coming over that freq. The game is much more enjoyable without it.
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I'd disagree on this one. I've had some great conversations on 200 -- joking around, talking about stuff, just being friendly. We've got a great community, with high quality people playing all countries. I'd miss that if I detuned 200.
The problems we see come from a small (but very vocal) minority. When particular guys start getting on my nerves, I just squelch those individuals. Lets the text buffer scroll MUCH more slowly, keeps me from getting irritated, but lets me chat with the good folk still around.
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yes Simaril that is the down side to de-tuning.
No harm in talking to someone you've had a good fight with via PM.
Until we get perma squelch I would still rather Bin 200 until then.
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Yup...
200 is a big barrel with just a few rotten apples. Much easier to just detune the bad apples vs ignoring the channel as a whole.
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So I read this post this morning before I left for work, and I thought a little more about my encounters with both players. First off, my encounters with Batfink; I first met Batfink last year. I was in the DA with some members of my old squad, we were just DAing each other for practice. Bat kindly asked if he could fly with us, and naturally welcomed the addition. He flew marvelously with and against us and was polite and respectful to us the entire time. At the end of the evening he very graciously said “thank you for allowing me to fly with you guys tonight” and offered us a nice salute. Another time I had the encounter with Bat in the MA, after a couple of roll, flips, stalls, and turns I was left wondering where my tail section had gone. It was a clean fight, and a very good fight. A salute was sent and no foul words or anything of that nature were exchanged. Bat has earned my respect time and time again.
As for one my first experience with Adonna, he was still a Bishop at the time, I recall that he was spouting off how all the Bishops are idiots and so on, or this guy HO’ed me rammed me, picked me ect ect. Then he moves to the Rooks. I thought, well there is a nice change. I myself tune 200; I enjoy talking to many of the other players on the other countries. But as of late I also get to see when Adonna dies. Its usually “HOtard, rammer, picker, noob, ect ect. I have zero respect for a person like this.
People like Bat, SkyRock, and countless others that will shoot you down then explain what you could have done differently to perhaps learn and maybe on the next encounter have a better chance of survival are the players I have respect for. So with that said; I have $50.00 on Bat.
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That was quite possibly the best 190 "turn fight" I've ever seen...
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I've never had the oprotunity to fight batfink, but I would love to fly against him. Batfink seems like a really decent and respectable fellow and Andonai had no reason to refuse a fight in the DA with batfink. And Bat's video proves that Andonai was bragging and none of Bat's squad was instigating anything.
Batfink:aok
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my .02
Bat, RedTop and the rest of the their squad are standup folks. I'll end it on that note :D
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I wasn't going to post on this until I watched the film, I only have one thing to say about it Bat.......Ya gotta post more films!!!!, the squad vox is hilarious :)
shamus
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Yeah...you Brits is teh funniez :rofl
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Just ignore him batfink. I've heard him criticizing the way guys fly on country channel when he joined the rooks and have ignored him ever since.
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Bat, Be thankful you don't have to listen to it on squad vox....LOL....Squelch is an awesome tool. :D
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I've had 200 detuned for quite a while up until just a few days ago. I try now to focus on first-rate players like Solar10, BushLT, Jonez, Lusche, Simaril, Jimbeam and others worthy of respect beacause of how they interact and respect others, friend or foe in the game.
It's nice to know there are still people out there such as these folks. Fine examples of good sportsmanship. It's not about winning or losing, but how you handle both. I've had many conversations with good sticks that have either kicked my butt out of the sky, or I managed to get lucky and take them out. We share about how we screwed up, give each other compliments, 's, what have ya... and go from there. Always nice when it ends with a good note.:)
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Originally posted by Sketch
I have known BatfINk for a while and don't question this post at all... :noid
BatfinkV is a true Gentleman..(anyone that sez otherwise needs to have a glass plate installed into their stomach if ya get my drift. :)
dentin
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I have nothing against oADONAIo
Batfink is a gentlemen.
I always said that whoever it is, you are NOT A TOUGH GUY talking it up on channel 200, hundreds of miles away behind your computer. Ask yourself if you would do that in the guys face, or just go to your corner.
If the community cracks down on you and you don't like it, just ask "is it my own doing?" "am i a really miserable SOB?"
Sobering questions that go for all smack talkers on 200. At least have the game to back it up.
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Raider to me it doesn't even matter if the cartoon pilot can outfly the one he is trash talking too. Acting like a 5 year old is just plain lame no matter if the guy can play a GAME good or not. Their are several very good sticks in the game that constantly talk stupid on CH 200. Just because thier good at this Game means nothing to me, when they act like little Nancy Girls crying about what ever.
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Originally posted by Shuffler
He should paint his face and join Ringling Brothers.
Don't lump him with us clowns!!! :furious
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Anyone who sticks around long enough in this game, establishes some sort of 'reputation' within the 'community'.
Each of us determines what that is by how we present ourselves whether it be here or in the arenas.
Whatever 'respect' we get is much more determined by that presentation, then by whether we're the greatest cartoon pilot who ever graced the virtual skies.
And no matter how much you spout on 200, or scream on the BBS, you won't get that 'respect' unless you earn it.
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I think the reverse is true, Guppy, also. The more you spout on 200 the faster will drain away any sliver of respect you had earned.
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Originally posted by OSU
Andonai had no reason to refuse a fight in the DA with batfink.
He does have a reason. He's really not that good, sure he can cherry pick a hord with the best of 'em but when it comes to a 1v1 engagement, he's rather clueless on what to do.
After an unwarranted attack on channel 200 by him, I asked him if he wanted to go to the DA, after all, if he's so good and I suck like he claims, it would be a walk in the park for him. He ignored me at first, then started making excuses and went silent when other players started to make comments about his timidness.
To me, he ranks up there with oDALLASo, CHI, and WindX. Boils on the AH community.
ack-ack
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I killed Adonai last night and all he said on 200 was *good pick*. :lol
I didn't pick him. He was in a 190A-5 and had just killed Woodi40 and was trying to get clear so he could make a pass on someone else or rtb I would assume. We merged and I pulled around on his 6, he tryed to flat scissors with my spixteen. On the first crossover I pinged up his left wingtip, on the second crossover I shot off his stabs.
A pick is when you shoot someone who is involved in a fight with someone else, that was clearly not the case here. Yes, I do have the film. :)
*edit* Since I'm short on cash I'll put my CH gear on Batfink. (CH Combatstick and CH Pro Throttle, no peds yet though.)
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Originally posted by Krusty
I think the reverse is true, Guppy, also. The more you spout on 200 the faster will drain away any sliver of respect you had earned.
Quite true. Fortunately for me, one can't "drain away" what one has never had in the first place. :D
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It appears that oDALLASo was a major influence on you, you're doing a bang up job following in his foot steps.
Adonai was an oXXXXXo dude? :lol
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Originally posted by Guppy35
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Each of us determines what that is by how we present ourselves whether it be here or in the arenas.
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Or as guy named D.L. Moody put it: "If I take care of my character, my reputation will take care of itself."
Who we really are -- deep inside -- shows best when we're under stress, and in how we deal with our mistakes. With our guard down, the reality shows through...
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adonai was a squadie of mine once, and he always struck me as someone who was never liked as a child. He always bragged on himself and never would help you if it meant that he may get shot up.
Bat on the other hand has always been a blast to play the game with, and has my utmost respect.
<> Batfink
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Still the same
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Lot of talk about "reputations" and "character" in game, means nothing to me. The only thing I get from how people act ingame, is how they like to play games.
For instance, you have those like Adonia, who like to always have the advantage of being able to get away either vert or extending, so that they can always be the one who "wins", or at least doesn't "lose". Those types are the prevelant types in the MA for the ones who haven't learned/mastered acm's, yet want to be one of the big dogs. Only problem is, you will never be a big dog unless you lay your ego on the line and actually fight!
I do think Adonia needs to duel some good folks, so he can graduate tardom and enter geekdom with the rest of us!
:aok
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Lot of talk about "reputations" and "character" in game, means nothing to me. The only thing I get from how people act ingame, is how they like to play games.
For instance, you have those like Adonia, who like to always have the advantage of being able to get away either vert or extending, so that they can always be the one who "wins", or at least doesn't "lose". Those types are the prevelant types in the MA for the ones who haven't learned/mastered acm's, yet want to be one of the big dogs. Only problem is, you will never be a big dog unless you lay your ego on the line and actually fight!
I do think Adonia needs to duel some good folks, so he can graduate tardom and enter geekdom with the rest of us!
:aok
And once you get to talk to Mark, you forget about the "Skyrock" character and ignore the 200 stuff from him because it's just his 'schtick' and doesn't mean anything. You also realize that over time, the "Schtick' shows up less and less, as most folks enjoy talking to and flying against Mark who no longer has an excuse for every time he's lost a fight, and is comfortable in his own skin as a cartoon pilot and who prefers the challenge of the fight over trying to convince everyone he's the greatest ever :)
So Mark, you and I won't ever agree on that one :)
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Raider to me it doesn't even matter if the cartoon pilot can outfly the one he is trash talking too. Acting like a 5 year old is just plain lame no matter if the guy can play a GAME good or not. Their are several very good sticks in the game that constantly talk stupid on CH 200. Just because thier good at this Game means nothing to me, when they act like little Nancy Girls crying about what ever.
Well said Hondo. Thats a healthy way looking at it.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
And once you get to talk to Mark, you forget about the "Skyrock" character and ignore the 200 stuff from him because it's just his 'schtick' and doesn't mean anything. You also realize that over time, the "Schtick' shows up less and less, as most folks enjoy talking to and flying against Mark who no longer has an excuse for every time he's lost a fight, and is comfortable in his own skin as a cartoon pilot and who prefers the challenge of the fight over trying to convince everyone he's the greatest ever :)
So Mark, you and I won't ever agree on that one :)
I actually deleted something about how I "used" to talk a lot of trash on 200, but I'm not sure I have totally given it up....it is sooo fun to be bad sometimes! hee hee:aok
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I could care less how a person plays the game.Its how that person conducts themselves as a human being in game that means anything to me.Getting mad at a person in game would be like getting mad at oh lets say channel 43 for not having a show on that I like.
Pipz
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My money is on B@tfink!
He's a good honest stick.
:aok
Mac
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Adonai's name in the original Hebrew, with translation...
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Adonai.jpg)
Clever, if you ask me. Adonai is an ok guy. I generally ignore an in-game persona, as it doesn't always reflect the actual person, but their Walter Mitty alter-ego. With some of us, what you see is what you get. With others, the persona is part of the game.
My regards,
Widewing
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Interesting, Widewing.
I've seen it translated as "Lord of Armies" or "Lord of the Host." (EDIT: Checked around a little, and found I remembered incorrectly. Adonai itself was a substitute for the unpronounceable name of God, YHWH -- since traditionally it was considered sinful to speak the Name itself. Not being quite so picky, Christians threw some vowels in and transliterated YHWH into Yehovah, or Jehovah. While I thought Adonai itself meant "Lord of Hosts," that term was "Adonai Sabaoth." That should fulfill our daily quota for trivia, I'd think.)
However, back to the player -- I don't think he planned any deep meaning here. On first bumping into Adonai in the MA I made a comment about the handle, but it turns out he thought it meant something completely different. As I recall, he didn't even have the originating language right, much less the meaning.
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Proof is always hard to get past.
Bat....WInging with you is always a pleasure.
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it's called squelch that simple, why make a big deal out of it?
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Originally posted by SkyRock
I actually deleted something about how I "used" to talk a lot of trash on 200, but I'm not sure I have totally given it up....it is sooo fun to be bad sometimes! hee hee:aok
At least people know that when you are being bad, at least there is entertainment value and not to mention you back it up. Big difference.
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Especailly when you are fighting rooks
They are the #1 pickers honestly.
I dont think ive been picked by a knit more than 10 times.
Rooks? Hmm, I'm often seen around 5-8k. In a "pos ride" on top of it.
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AKJrDogg would probably beat him and definately has more class.
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Originally posted by Shamus
I wasn't going to post on this until I watched the film, I only have one thing to say about it Bat.......Ya gotta post more films!!!!, the squad vox is hilarious :)
shamus
I totally agree! I still want to know why the one guy said that he still had teeth marks in his "little Richard" - I know he said something in British, but I couldn't understand him.:)
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
it's called squelch that simple, why make a big deal out of it?
It would be nice if that wasn't necessary. :)
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shame i wasnt there i coulda done my biggles impersenation :D
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Originally posted by Elfie
It would be nice if that wasn't necessary. :)
My thoughts as well.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
My thoughts as well.
...-Gixer
Why would you care about what happens on 200? IIRC it's detunable.
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The sad thing, is a by-product of jumping from country to country, is you make friends on the other countries. So tuning 200 to keep in contact with your friends...... which is what the channel is for.... is spoiled by these "tards" walking around thumping their chests looking for attention.
I think a permanent squelch list would be a great thing. Then these loud mouths could just talk amongst themselves. :D
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WW, there are many derivitives of that term in hebrew the root word comes from adon or sir, and (my God) or adonai, but adoni means my master, by calling yourself adonai your disrespecting any biblical meaning of the word and or its history and shows great disrespect and arrogance.
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Batfink and Adonai are both great to fly with.
I've enjoyed flying with and against Batty on quite a few occasions and each time has been a blast. He is most definitely one of the most friendly 'personalities' I've encountered in-game.
Adonai is on quite a lot of the time that I am and he's a good guy to fly with too. I fly with him quite a bit, actually, and he's always good for a wing.
To be brief, all of this '$20 on Batfink' stuff is a bit naff...
There can be no 'winner' in a thread like this. Let's think about it for a minute... There was a minor disagreement in a game... and it is just a game... How about we all put this to bed and get over it.
I'm sure Batfink and Adonai will put it behind them. Let's do the same thing too.
-Archaius
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Both evanheim and simaril have important points about this.
The use of that name in a game is offensive to Jews.
I remember seeing the exchange with simaril where the dolt defined his name as a Greek god...blah, blah, blah.
He THOUGHT HE MEANT Adonis. He's utterly clueless and reprehensible.
I remember his post where he announced the change of his name. I was thinking, 'there's hope for this guy yet;' but the change was merely from oAdonaio to Adonai.
He's a loud nincompoop.
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Originally posted by SEraider
At least people know that when you are being bad, at least there is entertainment value and not to mention you back it up. Big difference.
I disagree. Skyrock's little different from adonai. Whether or not they can fly (or not) doesn't negate that their pretense of "acting" or "pretending" to be arses really reflects an inner need on their part to actually be arses.
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To be brief, all of this '$20 on Batfink' stuff is a bit naff...
There can be no 'winner' in a thread like this. Let's think about it for a minute... There was a minor disagreement in a game... and it is just a game... How about we all put this to bed and get over it.
The 20 bucks stuff on Batfink is those who would bet on Batfink to win a duel between these two. I maintain my bet of my CH stuff. :D
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Originally posted by TEShaw
Both evanheim and simaril have important points about this.
The use of that name in a game is offensive to Jews.
I remember seeing the exchange with simaril where the dolt defined his name as a Greek god...blah, blah, blah.
He THOUGHT HE MEANT Adonis. He's utterly clueless and reprehensible.
I remember his post where he announced the change of his name. I was thinking, 'there's hope for this guy yet;' but the change was merely from oAdonaio to Adonai.
He's a loud nincompoop.
First off, oTRALFZo came to me with the name to begin with, which I had no clue what the meaning was, but was told it was not offensive i.e sexual in nature. The name just sounded unusual and stuck. I have talked to a few jewish players that have knowledge on the subject and they feel its a in game flight name, not ment in any other form. Clueless and reprehensible? Why instigate a fight over a video game name? I have not attacked you in person, if you feel a nickname so really threatens you perhaps its not the nickname that is the problem. I have never claimed to be religious or acted as if I was a "god" some have referenced this about me but I have told those that are religious that the name was not ment in Offense.
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I remember his post where he announced the change of his name. I was thinking, 'there's hope for this guy yet;' but the change was merely from oAdonaio to Adonai.
HAHAHAHA so he was an oXXXXo guy! :rofl
Awhile back I had taken a break. When i came back to AH every time I killed one of those guys, and I do mean every time.....I got a PM telling me how lame I was, or what a dweeb I was....or what a n00b I was. :rofl
This sure explains all the smack talk on 200. :D
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I'm not threatened. I'm offended. (difference; nice try at change of subject.)
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Originally posted by Simaril
Interesting, Widewing.
I've seen it translated as "Lord of Armies" or "Lord of the Host." (EDIT: Checked around a little, and found I remembered incorrectly. Adonai itself was a substitute for the unpronounceable name of God, YHWH -- since traditionally it was considered sinful to speak the Name itself. Not being quite so picky, Christians threw some vowels in and transliterated YHWH into Yehovah, or Jehovah. While I thought Adonai itself meant "Lord of Hosts," that term was "Adonai Sabaoth." That should fulfill our daily quota for trivia, I'd think.)
However, back to the player -- I don't think he planned any deep meaning here. On first bumping into Adonai in the MA I made a comment about the handle, but it turns out he thought it meant something completely different. As I recall, he didn't even have the originating language right, much less the meaning.
Your correct on this, my first impression of the user name was Greek God or some reference to it, only later from certain religious players I realize the name was ment for something else.
Interestingly enough I still have not found the actual meaning for the word Adonai other then it refers to jewish word for "God", in this sense I never really changed it believing "Adonai" was not attacking anyone in particular racially or religiously.
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Originally posted by TEShaw
I'm not threatened. I'm offended. (difference; nice try at change of subject.)
And did I not tell you I understood your reasons for the name being Offensive, and offered to apologise on country channel?
Edit: Think you pm'ed me not sure if it was country or private which we discussed this.
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Your correct on this, my first impression of the user name was Greek God
Adonis is the Greek deity you were thinking of. :)
Just a suggestion, but if that's what you were intending to name yourself after, why not change it to that? :)
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Originally posted by Krusty
I disagree. Skyrock's little different from adonai. Whether or not they can fly (or not) doesn't negate that their pretense of "acting" or "pretending" to be arses really reflects an inner need on their part to actually be arses.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
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Entering a grey zone here, IMHO. And it's a zone that isnt about Adonai anyway, but about handles -- so it probably doesnt belong in this thread.
Names with obscene references, or ones that are societally unacceptable (like HITLRwzRITE, or ZklonB) are nobrainers for banning. When a handle could offend someone, well, where do you draw the line? What if a vegetarian complained about MEATwad? (The name, I mean....) Or a bird lover about SHawk, or a Native Ameican about Redskin1? Where does "being offended" become the individuals problem, and not HTC's??
I know we've had a "Jesus" in the past, but I don't know if he left or had to change his name. It seems to me that if indeed the handle "Jesus" were banned, it stands to reason that other modern religions' names for God should go on the list too. Allah, Adonai, Buddah, Krishna, Kali...(Shoot, with the darn polytheists where does that stop even? )
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Originally posted by Krusty
I disagree. Skyrock's little different from adonai. Whether or not they can fly (or not) doesn't negate that their pretense of "acting" or "pretending" to be arses really reflects an inner need on their part to actually be arses.
Really, Dr. Phil? You do not know me, and therefore should try and avoid putting your foot so far up your patooty!:aok I find playing this game as a very nice "guy/personna" to be very boring. That's just my take on it.
P1- very nice shot.
P2- Thanks, very good evasives.
P1- No, thank you, I got lucky even hanging with you that long.
P2- Quite the contrary, if I didn't get lucky you would have easily killed me.
P1-You're too kind, I was lucky to stay in the fight that long.
P2- No, you're the kind one, I got very lucky with my desperate shot right before you would have killed me.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah :rolleyes:
:noid
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Why would you care about what happens on 200? IIRC it's detunable.
Why should I have to detune 200 just for one or two bad apples? If you ask just squelch, I do but I sometimes forget and it's a pain having to .squelch the same people over and over.
They are the ones who should have to detune 200 and by HT, not the majority of the community that treat each other with a little respect as it should be. Little banter is fine, but constant whining,insults and degrading remarks towards others isn't.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Especailly when you are fighting rooks
They are the #1 pickers honestly.
I dont think ive been picked by a knit more than 10 times.
hehe, us rooks r probably the #1 pickers, but allison, shes a nit, and she picks ALL the time. i have only been killed by her cuz of a pick, i have never had a 1-1 w/ her, and i sometimes wonder if she has any skills in a 1-1, or if she prefers picking. that was irrelevant, but adonai being my sqddie, i dont mean to be mean adonai, but he does talk a lot of trash, so do i, but adonai is a good pilot.
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just watched the film. Is that it?? Man, i was hoping for more... Thats not even a 200 pillow fight.
Hilarious banter tho bat and crew - lol. Bobbit!
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Really, Dr. Phil? You do not know me, and therefore should try and avoid putting your foot so far up your patooty!:aok I find playing this game as a very nice "guy/personna" to be very boring. That's just my take on it.
P1- very nice shot.
P2- Thanks, very good evasives.
P1- No, thank you, I got lucky even hanging with you that long.
P2- Quite the contrary, if I didn't get lucky you would have easily killed me.
P1-You're too kind, I was lucky to stay in the fight that long.
P2- No, you're the kind one, I got very lucky with my desperate shot right before you would have killed me.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah :rolleyes:
:noid
So is.....
P1-I owned you
P2-You picked me when I was engaged with 4 nme
P1-n00b
P2-Alt monkey
P1-Spit dweeb
P2-Cherry picker
P1- I'm the best at this game and all the chicks will dig me
blah blah blah
any better?
:noid
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Originally posted by Roundeye
So is.....
P1-I owned you
P2-You picked me when I was engaged with 4 nme
P1-n00b
P2-Alt monkey
P1-Spit dweeb
P2-Cherry picker
P1- I'm the best at this game and all the chicks will dig me
blah blah blah
any better?
:noid
Actually Thats how 200 is every day. Regardless what hour, make a bag of popcorn and you will see it.
or in squeaker terms:
P1-Squeak I pwn U
P2-Squeak U Pik3d me n00b u Sux0rz
P1-STFU n00b
P2-Dw33b
P1-ROFL Tard you have no Skillz
P2-Squeak Lgay N00b
Moderator: Both you stop pretending to be Adonai (Mutes both P1 and P2 for 24 hours)
Pwned by Mod?
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Wow, I just wasted 5 minutes of my time reading this useless thread.
:aok WTG you really CAN make something out of NOTHING :t
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Originally posted by Simaril
Names with obscene references, or ones that are societally unacceptable (like HITLRwzRITE, or ZklonB) are nobrainers for banning. When a handle could offend someone, well, where do you draw the line? What if a vegetarian complained about MEATwad? (The name, I mean....) Or a bird lover about SHawk, or a Native Ameican about Redskin1? Where does "being offended" become the individuals problem, and not HTC's??
I know we've had a "Jesus" in the past, but I don't know if he left or had to change his name. It seems to me that if indeed the handle "Jesus" were banned, it stands to reason that other modern religions' names for God should go on the list too. Allah, Adonai, Buddah, Krishna, Kali...(Shoot, with the darn polytheists where does that stop even? )
For me, it is a very simple distinction. 'being offended' by remarks about one's nature is a case for HTC. To be brief, if it's racial or something that said offended person cannot change about their existence then I would consider it up for review by HTC.
Offending people's beliefs is different altogether and should be the individuals problem. Beliefs can be changed, they are not an inherent quality of the individual. Expecting people to respect your choices and decisions (and thus beliefs) is unreasonable.
I talked to Adonai just after he changed his name and his explanation of his name was exactly this: "Adonai is greek for God of the sky".
It would seem he has his origins mistaken but his intention was certainly not sinister.
To be honest, I think taking offense to comments about one's god or gods is childish and petty.
Remember the Islamic response to that Danish cartoon? Absolute rubbish. Getting pissy over bibical references is of the same nature. It's not the same thing but it's the same line of thought.
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Really, Dr. Phil? You do not know me, and therefore should try and avoid putting your foot so far up your patooty!:aok I find playing this game as a very nice "guy/personna" to be very boring. That's just my take on it.
P1- very nice shot.
P2- Thanks, very good evasives.
P1- No, thank you, I got lucky even hanging with you that long.
P2- Quite the contrary, if I didn't get lucky you would have easily killed me.
P1-You're too kind, I was lucky to stay in the fight that long.
P2- No, you're the kind one, I got very lucky with my desperate shot right before you would have killed me.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah :rolleyes:
:noid
fair enough. for me i find just saying 'gf' after every single fight to be a bit mercenary and bot like and sometimes even plain rude. what? you cant even be bother to write out 'good fight' in full? Imagine two ww2 vets on opposing sides meeting up after the war and realising they had fought each other. then they both say 'gf' then walk off. :lol
i much prefer fighting someone who i know is a real person being themself while playing the game. if the fight deserves additional verbal after it was a just a really good fight, you dont have to bullchit with false modesty like in your example on every single fight to be a 'nice guy persona'. maybe some people are just being themselves and so most of the time are nice guys genuinely? we all have bad moments and thats what defines a real person who is just good natured apart from a 'nice guy persona'.
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Originally posted by LancerVT
Same here. Class act all the way. :aok
Ditto
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Originally posted by Gixer
Why should I have to detune 200 just for one or two bad apples? If you ask just squelch, I do but I sometimes forget and it's a pain having to .squelch the same people over and over.
They are the ones who should have to detune 200 and by HT, not the majority of the community that treat each other with a little respect as it should be. Little banter is fine, but constant whining,insults and degrading remarks towards others isn't.
...-Gixer
If you don't like what you hear, then detune!
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
fair enough. for me i find just saying 'gf' after every single fight to be a bit mercenary and bot like and sometimes even plain rude. what? you cant even be bother to write out 'good fight' in full? Imagine two ww2 vets on opposing sides meeting up after the war and realising they had fought each other. then they both say 'gf' then walk off. :lol
i much prefer fighting someone who i know is a real person being themself while playing the game. if the fight deserves additional verbal after it was a just a really good fight, you dont have to bullchit with false modesty like in your example on every single fight to be a 'nice guy persona'. maybe some people are just being themselves and so most of the time are nice guys genuinely? we all have bad moments and thats what defines a real person who is just good natured apart from a 'nice guy persona'.
you can usually tell a nice person from chatting with them one on one.
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all hail the great and powerful OZZ
pay no mind to the little man behind the curtain
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all the times I fought bat he was class act whe he shot me down or i him. we were haveing a pretty good battle 1 on 1 when another red came in and he asked to keep out . the guy incaged and he disincaged when i shot the guy down he reincaged . (S) to bat
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hmmmm 6 pages for adonnia only 3 pages for STORCH. adonnia must be a bigger icon then STORCH ?? hardly seems fair!
no offense adonnia, i fully support you, no matter who you justly or unjustly anger or frustrate!! :) :) :aok
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Originally posted by v1st
all the times I fought bat he was class act whe he shot me down or i him. we were haveing a pretty good battle 1 on 1 when another red came in and he asked to keep out . the guy incaged and he disincaged when i shot the guy down he reincaged . (S) to bat
I would have to agree Batfink has always been a class act, even when he has lost.
Case in point. Quite awhile back I was in a Tempest over one of my teams bases that was under attack. I check my 6 and 2 Corsairs are closing on me, so I nose down a bit to build some speed, then level out and run like I stole a plasma screen tv. :D
The Corsairs naturally kept following. Once I had enough distance between us I started to climb, as soon as I was about 2k above them I dove back in and killed both the Corsairs who just happened to be Sled and Batfink.
Batfink sent me a PM and congratulated me on the kills and said that was very well played.
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Originally posted by SkyRock
If you don't like what you hear, then detune!
Read the first sentence.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Roundeye
So is.....
P1-I owned you
P2-You picked me when I was engaged with 4 nme
P1-n00b
P2-Alt monkey
P1-Spit dweeb
P2-Cherry picker
P1- I'm the best at this game and all the chicks will dig me
blah blah blah
any better?
:noid
Yes, very much, now I feel like kicking his arse, which is what war is all about! :D
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Yes, very much, now I feel like kicking his arse, which is what war is all about! :D
GIVE ME BACK MY SCALP! :D
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Originally posted by captain1ma
hmmmm 6 pages for adonnia only 3 pages for STORCH. adonnia must be a bigger icon then STORCH ?? hardly seems fair!
The Storch thread was locked which would make page count comparison's irrelevant. I think it would be more relevant to measure the volume of spittle produced when their detractors foam at the mouth in anger and frustration.