Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on February 23, 2008, 11:52:41 PM
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Something, ANYTHING
Is better then the way they are set up now
the way its done now
Personally I'd rather just die outright then get a pilot wound
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yeah I always though that when you get shot in the head your plane would spiral to the ground, and not blow up like it does just now.
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i think he's talking about the bloody cockpit....
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Originally posted by chase4
yeah I always though that when you get shot in the head your plane would spiral to the ground, and not blow up like it does just now.
Ya see, he is talkin about pilot wounds, when you are shot in the head 99.9% of the time it isnt a WOUND!!!!!
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Originally posted by angelsandair
Ya see, he is talkin about pilot wounds, when you are shot in the head 99.9% of the time it isnt a WOUND!!!!!
actually it is still a wound, a special type of wound
its called a fatal wound silly (the technical term for it is BOOM!!! HEADSHOT!)
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Well shoot the only person who even knows it's a wound is you on the way up to heaven watching your plane go down.
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Lol!
I do think death is better than a PW. :(
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I don't see what the problem is.
The only time I ever die from pilot wounds is when I'm in a 262. :lol: In every other aircraft, I get it home safely 9 times out of 10.
Disengage straight away and go home... no problem.
I think the PW system is fine. It adds another dimension to things.
I would also say that before go stuffing around with PW model that we add to the engine damage model.
At least with the PW model we get a bit of variation. Oils hits = watching the the gague run down and the engine cutting dead.
Adding a code which makes the engine run poorly, decrease in power and get all lumpy as engine components start to warp due to heat stress would be WAY more important than messing about with the PW code.... in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Gowan
(the technical term for it is BOOM!!! HEADSHOT!)
I thought the technical term was POOF.
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If you'd rather die than be wounded, just bail out when you're wounded.
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When I get PW'd I wait until I blackout the 2nd or 3rd time then bail out...
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acctuly it is possible to survive a hit in the head, my cousin is deployed in Iraq as a U.S. Coast Guard Port Sercurity Specilist and he took some shrapnel in the head.. or mabye it was the face but he is ok today.
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Know what i hate about pilot wounds and cockpit hits?
In this game they are not only unrealistic, but they simply do not work.
Take a .30 or larger round to any part of your body, your flying days are over.
Not to mention the agonizing pain, the bone chilling wind coming from the now riddled cockpit, the numbness from loss of blood.
You pass out once, your done.
The fade should fade slower, but should NEVER come back.
Untill this is done, aces high will always be arcade, period.
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But i have solutions, should you all choose to consider them.
(what we have)First off, the view before it fades, you all know how it sways and shifts the head's place.It dips turns slides,kinda like your pilot is out of it (loss of blood persay) Then it fades, and comes back.
(What we needed)The view should never* come back after full fade, while the pilot is wounded the head should move irregular like it does now JUST before the screen fades in/out, maby with a slight fade.
Also pilot *aggonizing scream* is much needed.
Recap.
1:No full blackouts in and out, before death (first & final blackout)
2:Head should sway like it does now before blackout, while your hit.
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The sway would be more like a fealing, your pilot has one hand on his gut, holding his intestines and blood in, with aggonizing pain his eyes search the controls, his blood soaked hand grips the stick, engines firewalled as his smoking p51 heads for home, blood runing low his eyes once again dip from the horizon down to his feet, he notices his intire cockpit floor is nothing but blood, doesnt have much time...he turns his nose back to the enemy and trys to put a evil grin on the face he can no longer feal.
Seconds before he pulls the trigger the rest of the *life* run from his eyes, blinded..his body slumps forwards and he passes away with one more agonizing scream, all his flight can hear his last gasp of air.
Seconds later his p51 smashes into the ground full speed, the 109 pilot still unaware he was ever even targeted.
*** Untill then, we will never get things like this. ***
What we will tell of a story is,
"Billy got hit by .50 cal fire, he blacked out while fighting a 190 over germany, flew level and stright with autopilot before he came to a full blackout, regained control (could see again, more blood it was a miracle!) he pulls around to get another snap shot at the 190, but just as he did..again, he lost all blood, blacks out. With wings level again, the 51' pilot keeps a calm, looks around in the darkness untill his view comes back.
Seconds later he puts all .50's into the nose of the 190 in his last head on before diping the nose down and runing for home.
All in all that day, the pilot passed out some 6-9 times, at no time did he die.
its as if some angel was sitting in his cockpit, pumping him back full of blood.
lord have mercy. `Lt. jackmehoff 2nd bomber wing, 1944 "
Shame.
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who said it was a head shot? It could be a really nasty papercut from the clipboard.I had one like that once.
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My complaint is the total blackout EVERY time.
i can see if they gave you a head wobble to disorient you.
Or make the plane harder (more sloppy) to control.
But fading into a complete and total blackout every single time?
disinguage?
LOL that only works when you either have numbers with you. Or can stay out of blackout long enough to actually do it.
95% of the time I get hit and am in total blackout within moments of being hit having only enough time to hit autopilot giving the enemies a nice clean finishing shot.
Personally I'd rather just die outright
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I believe there is code written in AH where once you have a pilot wound and you're about to touch down for a landing, you will black out.
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125% correct fulmar.
One of the MOST annoying part's.
The same with engine oil, get close to a base and watch it leak like someones putting pressure into the oil tank.
Spurt! spurt! spurt!..turn away, drip drip drip.
:confused:
mmmm taste's like gamey :aok
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
125% correct fulmar.
One of the MOST annoying part's.
The same with engine oil, get close to a base and watch it leak like someones putting pressure into the oil tank.
Spurt! spurt! spurt!..turn away, drip drip drip.
:confused:
mmmm taste's like gamey :aok
hehe that's why some of us fly with two engines.:aok
donkey
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Take a .30 or larger round to any part of your body, your flying days are over.
Not to mention the agonizing pain, the bone chilling wind coming from the now riddled cockpit, the numbness from loss of blood.
It is possible to survive head wounds and manage to land safely.
Saburo Sakai managed to fly hundreds of miles back to his base, and even flew combat missions after he recovered.
"Sakai-san next brought out the leather pilot’s helmet and white, silk scarf that he had worn the day he shot my father down. While this had quite an emotional impact on not only myself, my wife, and our three sons, who were with us on this most fascinating of evenings, what he related to us next was even more intriguing. For this was the helmet and scarf that he had also worn several months later, on the day that he took two bullets in the head in combat over Guadalcanal, after which he flew the four hours it took to return to his home base in Rabaul. It was quite clear where the bullets had entered his head, one of them having ricocheted off the metal rim of his goggles, the second having torn through the leather of the helmet near the temple. The idea that he could have survived these wounds, much less continued to fly for four hours after that, was all but inconceivable.
"When he showed us the scarf, the first thing that we noticed was that it was quite tattered, but in a relatively symmetrical and clean-cut way. The damage, rather than being the result of the ravages of time, had occurred in one brief and traumatic encounter. The explanation was quite simple. His canopy had been blown away in the same attack that had caused his wounds; but this proved a blessing of sorts in that it kept a steady rush of air blowing into the cockpit, helping him maintain consciousness. However, his wounds were so severe that, more than once, in order to shock himself into fuller consciousness, he had to aggravate the pain by striking his open wounds. In spite of this, he several times passed out, only to be awakened by the reinforced strength of the wind rushing into his cockpit as his plane plummeted straight down toward the sea below. All this while his scarf was whipping violently in the steady stream of wind that was blowing through the open cockpit."
From: http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/cc/stevens.html
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Yeah, the fact it did and does happen cant be argued.
Didn't some bomber gunners sometimes drop people out of the planes with chutes if they thought the person would die before reaching home, making for even aid by the enemy preferable to death?
Just go's to show how conditioning and the behavior a person has, could make all the diffrence, you have one pilot passing in and out, beating his wounds to stay awake/alive, returning home getting healed, and flying again.
Where as the other guys put themselfs into enemy hands in hopes of seeing another day, even if those days be spent behind a pow camps walls.
to them all.
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Originally posted by Fulmar
I believe there is code written in AH where once you have a pilot wound and you're about to touch down for a landing, you will black out.
Yup. Was landing my K4 about 10 mins ago on a CV...blacked out 2 times on landing...still managed to land, with the CV turning, while blacked out. :cool: