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Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: oboe on February 24, 2008, 09:00:25 PM: I did a search on this topic but didn't find anything in this forum.

It would be a great effect if the Me262 trailed a thin stream of exhaust smoke from each engine when under load. And a nice blurring effect of the air immediately following the exhaust cone.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Xasthur on February 24, 2008, 09:04:40 PM: Indeed.

Not to mention the massive exhaust trail left by the 163

:noid

I suspect both are too much of a FR killer
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Overlag on February 24, 2008, 09:11:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
Indeed.

Not to mention the massive exhaust trail left by the 163

:noid

I suspect both are too much of a FR killer

same reason any contrails aint added FR killer and really does it make a difference? :)
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Motherland on February 24, 2008, 09:22:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
Indeed.

Not to mention the massive exhaust trail left by the 163

:noid

I suspect both are too much of a FR killer

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/disable.jpg)
Problem solved :aok
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: oboe on February 25, 2008, 05:30:16 AM: I don't think it would be as much of an FR problem - Me262s are generally few and far between, compared to bomber groups.

Flying Lightnings for the Headhunters, you get used to your a/c trailing multiple smoke, oil, and/or vapor trails from combat damage. And I'm talking about an effect that is maybe only 25% of the intensity of those - just enough to hint at the exhaust.

Good idea, Motherland.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Xasthur on February 25, 2008, 06:20:23 AM: With the addition of this feature there should be a check-box 'Exhaust/Con trails On/Off'.

Then the problem would be solved. If your PC can handle your own and others' exhaust/con trails... you turn it on.... If it cannot you simply turn it off.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Hazard69 on February 25, 2008, 08:05:22 AM: Ummm.......Xasthur you need to look more closely at Motherland's Pic...:D :D :aok
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Denholm on February 25, 2008, 09:16:29 AM: Xasthur Pwns reading.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Bruv119 on February 25, 2008, 09:31:10 AM: Similar to the ratos firing on the 234?

I guess this graphic is acceptable maybe something smaller that doesn't leave a massive trail?
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: moot on February 25, 2008, 09:39:12 AM: I think the slicker two-sprite trail as we had in AH1 would look adequate for the jets. The Me163 would probably look better with a fluffy-type trail of sprites as we have for all fluid leaks and fire/smoke trails in AH2.

What would be really cool are flame sprites, and some shaders..... Hint hint HT :) How about some pixel shaders in the higher tier of graphics settings? Not overdone crap like in eye candy games, but effects as subtle as they are in reality. Not lego shaped bump mapping but just the right amount so that skinners can really pump up the immersion.
Reflective metal under chipped paint, heatwaves, etc.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Serenity on February 25, 2008, 10:38:11 AM: Yes, jet exhaust, an PRETTY PLEASE CONTRAILS? It REALLY adds some effect, lol.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Denholm on February 25, 2008, 11:59:34 AM: I suppose you now support me?

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176079&highlight=contrails
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: moot on February 25, 2008, 12:15:08 PM: As long as it's done right...
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Krusty on February 25, 2008, 12:30:48 PM: Contrails don't time out. They don't go away. They stay there and gradually dissipate [hours later]. They are, in essence, clouds. It's going to just look like every plane has a gas leak if you do it in AH, not like there are really contrails.

The FPS hit would probably come from leaving contrails in the sky for a long enough time period for folks outside of dot range to see the trails and follow them to cons. On top of that al other planes have to create more trails, and even planes flying over their own contrails create MORE contrails.

It gets messy, fast.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Motherland on February 25, 2008, 02:09:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
With the addition of this feature there should be a check-box 'Exhaust/Con trails On/Off'.

Then the problem would be solved. If your PC can handle your own and others' exhaust/con trails... you turn it on.... If it cannot you simply turn it off.

Perhaps I should outline it with red boxes next time :lol
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Denholm on February 25, 2008, 03:45:04 PM: I was confused until I studied the image.;)
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: DaftDog on February 25, 2008, 04:55:27 PM: Has it occured to you that the jet exhaust would be real hard to model?
:)
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: moot on February 26, 2008, 02:34:02 AM: Why would it be?
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: SD67 on February 26, 2008, 02:38:28 AM: HT already models heat effects on the P38's just have a look back left or right on top of the booms.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Xasthur on February 26, 2008, 04:26:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Denholm
Xasthur Pwns reading.

Hahah, I just looked at the detail slider effects and saw them all at minimum and assumed that was the point of the post.

After I saw that I didn't read on any further.

Also, I think contrails would be a waste but I think that high-g air disturbance wing-trails would be fantastic.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Xasthur on February 26, 2008, 04:28:54 AM: like this:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/lamod-1.jpg)
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: moot on February 26, 2008, 05:00:06 AM: Xasthur the sliders are on maximum.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: skyctpn on February 26, 2008, 06:16:27 AM: Please use the search function denholm has requested this before. :D
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Denholm on February 26, 2008, 09:39:03 AM: Xasthur, I agree with the high G effects. Although Contrails and heat waves would be neat.:D

Looks like we have another search-policeman on our hands.:noid
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Wingnutt on February 26, 2008, 11:55:06 AM: someone needs to make a pic of like, and old tandy or something..

and at the bottom put a caption that says..

"cant have, FR killer"
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Motherland on February 26, 2008, 02:13:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
like this:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/lamod-1.jpg)

I wondered if anyone would notice those.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Denholm on February 26, 2008, 07:13:44 PM: I did without a problem.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Spikes on February 26, 2008, 07:58:20 PM: I did.
Title: Me262 exhaust effects
Post by: Xasthur on February 27, 2008, 11:24:05 AM: Quote
Originally posted by moot
Xasthur the sliders are on maximum.

Well, that truly shows how much attenion I was paying.

To my brain, far left = minimum and moving right from there = increasing.

Like reading left to right.