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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AAolds on February 26, 2008, 01:01:16 AM
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Why do manned guns kills earn no perks and why no ranking for manned gun sorties, we got stats, but not rank.
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Originally posted by AAolds
Why do manned guns kills earn no perks and why no ranking for manned gun sorties, we got stats, but not rank.
I'm prolly wrong but wasn't there an issue with "scorers" taking command of CV's and deliberately holding the way point over PT spawns and or sunken enemy TG's to reap loads of 5 Inch (manned gun) kills of PT boats ?
"bugger the war I got to score"
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You can't die in a manned gun.
No risk, no reward.
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Originally posted by Blooz
You can't die in a manned gun.
No risk, no reward.
Which begs the question; Why not?
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Can I get a clarification please? I know we get no perks for manned guns, but does it in fact help/hurt ranking?
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Originally posted by SEraider
Can I get a clarification please? I know we get no perks for manned guns, but does it in fact help/hurt ranking?
It does nothing. There is no scoring catagory for it so it neither hurts nor helps.
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Originally posted by AAolds
Why do manned guns kills earn no perks and why no ranking for manned gun sorties, we got stats, but not rank.
Not sure why.
Probably the same inane reason that buffs can,t score on aircraft they shoot down.
But you can spawn camp and land 75 kills in a Tiger.
Feelin opressed by "Da Man"
Boner
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Originally posted by SEraider
Can I get a clarification please? I know we get no perks for manned guns, but does it in fact help/hurt ranking?
It is not factored in your rank. Rank is determined according to this. (http://hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html)
Except for 8" ships guns, gunning is defensive only. I suspect that is the reason it is not included in ranking or perks. The object and mission of bombers is to destroy ground targets, not shoot down aircraft.
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Originally posted by Rolex
It is not factored in your rank. Rank is determined according to this. (http://hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html)
Except for 8" ships guns, gunning is defensive only. I suspect that is the reason it is not included in ranking or perks. The object and mission of bombers is to destroy ground targets, not shoot down aircraft.
Do "defensive" air kills in a PT boat count towards your rank?
Or if a PT kills a GV on the shore?
If I shoot down (defensively of course) a plane with my tiger tank, does that count?
What exactly is the "object and mission" of a PT boat or tank?
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"Only air categories are scored for fighter mission types, ground categories only for bomber mission types, and both air and ground are scored for attack, vehicle, boat and field gunner mission types."
There's your answer about gvs and boats.
I didn't decide any of this. Your post reads sarcastic, so I'll direct to the help pages again and leave it at that. Link >> (http://hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html)
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Originally posted by Rolex
"Only air categories are scored for fighter mission types, ground categories only for bomber mission types, and both air and ground are scored for attack, vehicle, boat and field gunner mission types."
There's your answer about gvs and boats.
I didn't decide any of this. Your post reads sarcastic, so I'll direct to the help pages again and leave it at that. Link >> (http://hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html)
The sarcasm wasn't aimed at you Rolex.
Sorry if it came off like that.
It was aimed at the rule itself.(with which I obviously don't agree)
Never meant to, or would I ever go after you.
You always seemed like a stand up guy!
Respectfully yours,
Boner
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I understand now. We're good.
;)
Of course, I don't speak for HTC, but I can understand how it's scored like it is. In the category of gvs, the ostie and M-16 are specifically designed for air kills. The system is setup so that the category is scored a certain way, and not scored by individual vehicle. So, those air kills in a Tiger, Panzer or PT Boat would have to count, or the Ostie and M-16 kills wouldn't count.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
Not sure why.
Probably the same inane reason that buffs can,t score on aircraft they shoot down.
But you can spawn camp and land 75 kills in a Tiger.
Feelin opressed by "Da Man"
Boner
There is one consolation. When you land a mission , and get to shoot down a couple 163's you can think to yourself " hehe, that dewd just lost a heap of perkies :D "
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Can you killshot yourself in a manned ack?
donkey
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Can you killshot yourself in a manned ack?
donkey
No.
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I think it kind of leaves a bit of "PURITY" to the defending..One usually knows they wont get perkies,but they do it..WHY?
A.A CV is under attack and needs to be DEFENDED..
B.A BUDDY is under attack in bombers,and needs HELP.
C.A BASE is under atttack,and needs defended..
PURE DEFENSE,and to the guys who have taken the time to get good in these guns,and who go there knowing they wont get any points for the kills,but it helps the "WAR EFFORT" of their respective side..
Kevin
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Originally posted by SEraider
Can I get a clarification please? I know we get no perks for manned guns, but does it in fact help/hurt ranking?
i think all it does is let ya pat yerself on the back for killin the vulchin bastages that were too stupid to take out all the manned guns in their 5 runs to kill all the auto acks.........:D
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Originally posted by Blooz
You can't die in a manned gun.
No risk, no reward.
Yes you can die, I got at least 2 deaths in man ack this tour, I dunno how, but it happens.
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Maybe you died as a bomber gunner? Or a GV gunner?
You don't die in ack guns, period. You tower out safely every time.
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The reason there's no real score for ack guns, I believe, reflect's the reason they are there. To help prevent vulching, or other gaminess.
The incentive is to fly; If you make manned acking a cohesive part of the score, then every flak gun in the game is occupied by people who would otherwise be flying.
Plus, unlike aircraft, there is a limited amount of Flak guns, only so many a field, and when those are destroyed, they don't instantly respawn, they are down for at least 15 minutes. IMHO, that's why they aren't scored.