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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Elfie on February 27, 2008, 03:40:25 AM
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I have a film here HiTech. In the film another pilot collides with me. He died, I asked another pilot that was in the area. Serves him right too. :D
I also died, but didn't get a collision message. A P-51 that landed a couple rounds on me got the kill, he was to far away when I died to have been shooting me. I had to slow the film down to .25 speed to see the C205 firing at the last second. I'm thinking I might have died to his guns, but that he died from colliding first and the P-51 that pinged me got kill credit. Is this correct?
Download the film from this link.
http://www.mediafire.com/?myifumuessd
*edit* Curious as to why I didn't get kill credit for the C205 since I did ping him a few times before the collision.
*edit again* Last edit, I swear! :D
Also, if the C205 hit me with his guns, even though I died shouldn't I still hear the sounds of each round hitting me?
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You blew up first Elfie. The 205 died after you. 51 pinged ya a couple times and got the kill just by being relatively close
Serves ya right for flying such a dirty Corsair. Who is your crew chief anyway? :)
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If the 205 died after I did, why didn't he get kill credit? And if I blew up first, how did he collide with me?
My crew chief heard HiTech had some really nice Scotch so he went to Grapevine to see if he could get himself a drink. :)
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Collisions CAUSE damage, but they don't count towards damage for a kill.
If you get a kill from a ram, and you never shot them, it's a proxy kill.
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Originally posted by Elfie
If the 205 died after I did, why didn't he get kill credit? And if I blew up first, how did he collide with me?
My crew chief heard HiTech had some really nice Scotch so he went to Grapevine to see if he could get himself a drink. :)
I don't think the 205 shot ya. As a master of getting in collisions, I've seen this a million times :)
Only one who shot ya was the 51
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I don't think the 205 shot ya. As a master of getting in collisions, I've seen this a million times :)
Only one who shot ya was the 51
If the 205 didn't shoot me, and I didn't get a collision message, then how/why did I die? :)
Also, if you slow down the film to .25 normal speed you can see tracers from the 205 at the last second.
Just to be clear on what I call *blown up* (reference to a couple above posts), here is a screenie where a niki driver is wondering where all his pieces parts are. :D
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/Shooter912/Explody.jpg)
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(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/ypucollided2.jpg)
The "you have collided" text does not show up in the film viewer.
And you most definitely did collide per this screen shot. Your pilot was decapitated. You took the killing blow first.
Edited for better pic.
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:lol
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Originally posted by Bronk
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/youcollided.jpg)
The "you have collided" text does not show up in the film viewer.
And you most definitely did collide per this screen shot. Your pilot was decapitated. You took the killing blow first.
That has to hurt.
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I luv a good collision mystery.:noid
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That looks a rather unforgiving death.
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boy thats gonna leave a mark!! :) :)
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The "you have collided" text does not show up in the film viewer.
The film viewer shows all text that was in the game. I should have gotten a collision message but I didn't, I double checked for that in the game right after it happened.
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Originally posted by Elfie
The film viewer shows all text that was in the game. I should have gotten a collision message but I didn't, I double checked for that in the game right after it happened.
No it doesn't.
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/myview.jpg)
Clearly I have collided and ohh look, no text.
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Originally posted by Elfie
The film viewer shows all text that was in the game. I should have gotten a collision message but I didn't, I double checked for that in the game right after it happened.
It doesn't show the "you have collided" text. I noticed that when I did collision / lag tests in the DA.
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No it doesn't.
You misunderstand, or maybe I wasn't clear......in this case, the film viewer shows all the text that I got in the game. I didn't get a collision message in the game, which is what caused me to wonder how/why I died. Again, I double checked in game for a *you have collided with* message and I didn't get one.
When I viewed the film, I slowed it way down to see if the C205 was firing just before he collided and he was, at that point I stopped it and made my OP. :)
*edit* Now the question is, why didn't I get a collision message? :lol
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dirty 205 was HOin!!!
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Originally posted by hitech
I do not believe the orange you have collide message shows in films.
HiTech
From http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=200032&highlight=Collision+message
You had to have missed it. Because YOU did collide. Can't argue with film.
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Originally posted by Spatula
dirty 205 was HOin!!!
:lol
He woulda been dead if I wasn't fighting the Mustang also. ;)
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Originally posted by Elfie
You misunderstand, or maybe I wasn't clear......in this case, the film viewer shows all the text that I got in the game. I didn't get a collision message in the game, which is what caused me to wonder how/why I died. Again, I double checked in game for a *you have collided with* message and I didn't get one.
When I viewed the film, I slowed it way down to see if the C205 was firing just before he collided and he was, at that point I stopped it and made my OP. :)
*edit* Now the question is, why didn't I get a collision message? :lol
Wow... a better question is why your so hung up on one death when you have so many others.... :lol
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You had to have missed it. Because YOU did collide. Can't argue with film.
I'm not arguing with the film or the fact that I did collide, and no, I didn't miss the collision message. I opened up the text buffer immediately upon landing in the tower. There was only one collision message and that one was for Doolitle.
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Wow... a better question is why your so hung up on one death when you have so many others....
We all die a lot in the game. Some more than others, but death is part of the game. :)
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Originally posted by Elfie
I'm not arguing with the film or the fact that I did collide, and no, I didn't miss the collision message. I opened up the text buffer immediately upon landing in the tower. There was only one collision message and that one was for Doolitle.
So the question is not "hat killed me?" (we have found out), but "why did I see no collision message?" :)
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Hmm well then I don't know. Server burp, skuzzy tripping over cord?
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So the question is not "hat killed me?" (we have found out), but "why did I see no collision message?"
Yes, originally the question was for a verification of what I *thought* happened based on what I saw in the film. (Should have let it run those last few frames.) Now the question has evolved to, why the heck didn't I get a collision message?
If I had gotten a collision message this entire thread wouldn't exist because the death would have been explained by the collision message. :)
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A better question yet is why has HTC chosen to have film omit the messages that explain what really happened in the type of event that causes more confusion and irritation than any other? :)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
A better question yet is why has HTC chosen to have film omit the messages that explain what really happened in the type of event that causes more confusion and irritation than any other? :)
I was just wondering why the collision messages are omitted from the films. :)
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Originally posted by Elfie
If the 205 died after I did, why didn't he get kill credit? And if I blew up first, how did he collide with me?
My crew chief heard HiTech had some really nice Scotch so he went to Grapevine to see if he could get himself a drink. :)
it looks like what happened, is that your computer also saw the collision, although you didn't get the you have collided message..........the 205's rounds weren't even really that close to ya from what i could see........but since ya both went in, and his rounds never touched ya, the pony pick.....errrrr,,,,,,,,driver got the kill on ya......at least that's how it looked to me......
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