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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Treize69 on February 27, 2008, 05:20:13 AM
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Why do I have a feeling this is going to either be directed by Michael Bay, or star Ben Affleck... :cry
According to the Internet Movie Database, a film about Billy Fiske titled The Few is in production and slated for release in 2008.
Ben Clinch, an RAF armourer for Billy Fiske and his comrades during the summer of 1940, said, "I can't see how they can make a film of Fiske's life. It was quite short. He was unremarkable, in the context of the squadron. He was just another pilot as far as we were concerned." Speaking to The Independent, Bill Bond of the Battle of Britain Historical Society argued that whilst Fiske was remarkable as a character, it was important to remember that he recorded no kills. "It is going to be a farce if we have the Yanks shooting down everything in sight, the battle was four weeks old when Billy was shot down. He made several sorties but he didn't shoot anything down, and his impact on the battle was negligible. We are concerned."
I smell more Grade-A Hollywood Bull-Plop in the offing. :(
I thought that the book "The Few" would make a good movie, but not if its just about Fiske. Each of the other 6 did more in the Battle, he just happened to be the only one famous before the battle.
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UGGGHHH!!!!
Can we start a petition somewhere? If you have any email addresses that we can barrage to stop this before it gets out of hand please post em.
NO tom cruise
NO ben aFFLECK!!!!!!!!
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Yes, if anyone has any contact info, or comes across anything liek a petition, PLEASE post it. I would actually picket in front of the premier of this one if all the info of it I've seen is accurate. Every comment I've seen on it from people in the know say its a total farce. Icluding this one-
The Few, a novel by Alex Kershaw, tells the stories of the men who flew in the Battle of Britain. As of 2003, a Hollywood film similarly named The Few was in preparation for release in 2008, based on the story of real-life US pilot Billy Fiske, who ignored his country's neutrality rules and volunteered for the RAF. A Variety magazine outline of the film's historical content[8] was said in The Independent to have been described by Bill Bond, who conceived the Battle of Britain Monument in London, as "Totally wrong. The whole bloody lot."
Sounds like its been in the offing for a while, but then a lot of flicks never get released for various reason, so theres hope...
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And those who don't know who he is- http://www.fiskes.co.uk/billy_fiske.htm
He was quite a guy, and would make a good subject for a movie, but not if its a feature length film about his "exploits" in the BoB. He didn't do anything besides fly a few missions, MAYBE get a kill (depending on the source you check), and get critically injured trying to bring a burning Hurricane in when he could have bailed and probably been fine. Not the stuff Hero-flicks are made of...
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If it's in production, I'd say it's already out of hand.
Anyway, Bruv, I'm betting that if Fiske hadn't shagged your Great Aunt Doreen while he was over there, then due to some freakish "butterfly effect", Operation Sealion would have gone ahead and you'd be eating sliced, fermented cabbage instead of fish and chips.
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I think Bruv would make an excellent "creative consultant" on this project. Unfortunately, after reading the initial post and seeing it is about an American, he may just attempt to sabotage the whole thing altogether. They may want to tighten up their security, and monitor all flghts out of the U.K. for awhile, lol. Yeah, the whole thing sounds a Pearl Harbor II cheese-fest. Now, a movie about the battle featuring someone like, say, Bob Doe, now I'd pay good money to see that one. Oh, and btw Bruv, what can you tell us about the earthquake? Sry, not intentionally trying to hijack this thing.
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mmmm fermented cabbage!
Although 7 Americans gave up their own personal safety to participate and one gave his life I doubt the few of the few would have made that much of an impact overall.
Any film entitled the few needs to have Bader, Johnnie Johnson, Sailor, crazy poles etc etc.
Just remake the original and add modern day CGI and I'm happy.
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I don't know who started this "Everything that happened in WWII has to be bastardised to make it Americans Only", but its got to stop. The war had been going for over two years before we got there; we didn't instantly save the world as soon as we declared war; our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines weren't invincible genius supermen with god-like powers...
Oldest example of it I can think of is Steve McQueen in The Great Escape, and its gets exponentially worse from there.
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jscore see oclub for that topic.
I'm down saff so I didnt feel a thing,
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Originally posted by Treize69
I don't know who started this "Everything that happened in WWII has to be bastardised to make it Americans Only", but its got to stop.
It's about making money, making a films that appeal to a larger market.
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I'm waiting to see one with an American in the Luftwaffe or the IJN. And the deep philosophical issues of killing your own countrymen while fighting for the enemy. And his love affair with a supermodel cabaret singer with huge blue eyes and D-cups.
Oh god, I just gave them the idea for the next bit of schlock, NOOO!!!
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watch out Treize you will be accused of being left wing and anti-american shortly.
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No, just anti-Hollywood.
Plus I'm sick of all these kids seeing this BS on the big screen and thinking its real, since we all know movies are ALWAYS accurate....:mad:
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Originally posted by RTGorkle
If it's in production, I'd say it's already out of hand.
Anyway, Bruv, I'm betting that if Fiske hadn't shagged your Great Aunt Doreen while he was over there, then due to some freakish "butterfly effect", Operation Sealion would have gone ahead and you'd be eating sliced, fermented cabbage instead of fish and chips.
Gotta love the Hollywood historians. Some folk lap it up like a kitten at the milk churn.....bless!
what can you tell us about the earthquake?
felt like a high 2 or low 3...bit of a bump then zinged out in about 5 secs. By zinged i mean like a comb that's been flicked.
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Hopefully Moelders or another high scoring german ace will be played by Mel Gibson, shooting down swathes of allied airmen.
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Originally posted by thrila
Hopefully Moelders or another high scoring german ace will be played by Mel Gibson, shooting down swathes of allied airmen.
propably we see Will Smith as moelders. :D
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Yes.:) An awesome idea! Instead of the line "get me spitfires for my wing" when goering asks him what can be done to achieve air superiority he can say the line from 'independence day'- "i gots to get me one of these!" as a spitfire roars by.:D
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As historically inaccurate hollywood movies tend to be, (the film JFK comes to mind for some reason), I would bet it will have Ramboesque americans with superior skill and heat ray vision coming to the aid of the british forces.
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my work colleagues and I are going to see rambo tonight.
Hopefully there is lots of cheese and killing should be a good night!
"you want a war, i'll give you a war"
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A great war movie? Can hollywood make one? Without bringing in the "look at how good we are" flag waving aspect. Or BS romance.
If the boys can come up with something anywhere near the quality of Das Boot, I will be impressed.
Saving private ryan is probably the closest. Jarhead's good too.
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all this begs the question...
Why don't brits make movies about the lives of their guys who fought in the battle of britan?
they have the studios and the actors and the material.
lazs
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wasn't that done in '69?
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I think there needs to be a new law:
No one can make a WWII movie but Steven Spielburg and Tom Hanks.
Which is to say, I'm also not encouraged by George Lucas' planned Tuskegee Airmen movie.
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That's already been done too, hasn't it?
Dude from the Cosby show was in it.
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Any movie that can be made has already been done. All they do is cut and paste the plots from old movies with new "actors" (read- overhyped celeb of the year) and reshoot it, give it a different name and try to pass it off as a new movie.
Didn't you know that? :confused:
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I am not going to lose a moments sleep over the movie, who's in it, what the plot is, the main character or anything else about it. No one is forced to see a movie. If you don't like something about it, ignore it. When people don't pay for tickets even hollywierd will get the message.
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But thats the thing- people will pay to see it, and they'll keep making them. Do you know anyone, WWII aviation enthusiast or not, who liked Pearl Harbor? Even my GF at the time, who knew absolutely nothing about the real history, hated it and thought it was a waste of film. But it made money, and despite all the articles and discussions obout its 100% inaccuracy some people still seem to take it as history. It almost seems that the more rediculous the movie, the better it does, and the more inaccurate the more people believe it.
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The more people fuss and post about the movie the more interest they develop for it by others who might have just ignored it. They may just go to see if it's as bad as everyone said or vice versa. If you don't like something ignore it. It might come as a shock but hollywierd thrives on attention. If you deny it then it looks to gain it in another direction. Don't feed the machine until it make what you want. In any event a movie is not real life and you CAN go on living without thinking about it. :huh
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Lazs
You can teach monkies to post better than you......
Sorry couldn’t resist ....oh and as posted before there was a brit film on the Battle of Briton done in 1969, so it seems u septics are trying to copy us again ...:)
ps ....general knowledge question about the film ...BATTLE OF BRITAIN .....
What do the combatant aircraft in the film all share the same off????
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Merlin Engines.
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TRIEZE WINS .......my huge overdraft :)
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I own the '69 brit movie on the battle of britan but... that is not what we are talking about here are we?
We are talking about making a story about the lives of the interesting guys that were in the battle.
lazs
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Originally posted by expat
You can teach monkies to post better than you......
dagadagadaga
;)
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and.. along those lines.. it seems odd that a movie about a character in the BOB who was larger than life would be considered boring cause he only shot down one plane yet....
some of you are getting all wet about an entire squadron.. tuskagee.. who never created an ace.
lazs
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curval.. I don't know about teaching monkeys to post better than me... or anyone else for that matter but I could certainly teach em to comprehend posts better than you and expat..
re-read this... "all this begs the question...
Why don't brits make movies about the LIVES OF THEIR GUYS who fought in the battle of britan?
they have the studios and the actors and the material."
Like I said.. I own the '69 movie on the battle.. Now let's talk about the pilots.
lazs
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When talk of that film first came out a while ago, Tom Cruise was supposed to star in it.
If you were to do it right, there is a story that would be an interesting one to tell. There were 4 RAF pilots who first met during the Winter Olympics of 37-38 where they all competed. Billy Fiske, Roger Bushnell (Great Escape) Willie Rhoades Moorehouse (KIA BoB) and Max Aitken
To somehow follow their lives from the test of the Olympics to the horror of war, would in my mind make for an interesting story and it wouldn't just be about the American. Moorehouse was the son of a KIA VC winner in World War I. Growing up with that to live up to must have been hard. Bushnell's story is well known enough as the mastermind behind the Great Escape. He'd gone down in a Spitfire over Dunkirk as CO of 92 Squadron.
All 4 served in 601 Squadron RAF, unofficially known as "The Millionaire's Squadron"
It goes on and on. Of the 4, only Max Aitkin survived the war.
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I don't know lazs. Perhaps they were just boring compared to this fellow.
What would you rather watch, a great film about the war with lots of combat footage or some love story about one American flier who *might* have gotten a kill?
I assume this must be a love story...if not what? Was the guy a good comedian or something? Did he play lots of jokes on his squadees?
Either way, I don't care. Show me the dagadagadaga.
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curval.. I don't have any comment on the choice of fiske.. Don't know enough about him.
I am just saying that I am sure there must be a lot of brit pilots from the battle who would make for a great movie.
I was just wondering why the brits don't do it. Like I said..they have the studios and they have the actors.
I personally like the battle stuff more myself but if a character is interesting enough it sure as hell would be worth watching.
Just watched the assassination of jesse james.. now.. there really wasn't much action in the movie considering his career in both the civil war and after but it was a very interesting character study about a very interesting guy.
lazs
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When talk of that film first came out a while ago, Tom Cruise was supposed to star in it.
Oh god no...
Charon
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Why don't brits make movies about the LIVES OF THEIR GUYS who fought in the battle of britain?
I have no idea other than the practical. What percentage of people other than GEEKS like us would wanna pay to see it ? Would Yanks, Kiwi's, Diggers, knucks or any other English speaking nation go see, on mass, a film about a Brit pilot. Who would cough up the dosh on such a risky investment?
Other considerations :- Some of the BoB guys are still kicking. Europe is a stones throw. British reserve / stiff upper lip.
Personally I'd love to go see a remake of Dam Busters, Battle of Britain (dagadaga) and a TRUE version of Bridge over the River Kwi but I'd have to go all caveman on me Mrs if I wanted her to go with me.
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I actually know a lot of women who do enjoy those historical war movies- I took my GF at the time to see Saving Private Ryan when it came out and she loved it.
Of course that was a week before I left for basic and she flipped out on me...
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Originally posted by LYNX
Personally I'd love to go see a remake of Dam Busters
Peter Jackson has you covered. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dambusters_(film_remake)#Remake)
:D