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		General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: sluggish on February 27, 2008, 08:59:39 AM
		
			
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 4 Old Church Street,
 Chelsea,SW3, England.
 
 From the desk of Mrs Stella Cole
 
 I am sorry for bouncing into your privacy. You might not know the
 sender
 of this Mail. But i got your E-mail when searching files on reputable
 people online. let me start by introducing myself. Here writes Mrs
 Stella
 Cole (Phd.Msc,Fsd). I am married to Pharmacist Dave Cole an Englishman
 who
 died years ago. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of
 7.5
 Million (Seven Million, Five Hundred Thousand Great Britain Pounds
 Sterling which were derived from his vast estates and investment in
 capital market with a security company here in UK. Presently,this money
 is
 still with the bank.
 
 My Doctor told me that I have limited days to live due to the cancerous
 problems I am suffering from. I have decided to donate this fund to you
 and want you to use this gift which comes from my husbands effort to
 fund
 the upkeep of widows, widowers, orphans, destitute, the down-trodden,
 physically challenged children, barren-women and persons who prove to
 be
 genuinely handicapped financially.
 
 As soon as i receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the
 bank
 in UK. I will also issue you a Letter of Authority that will empower
 you
 as the original beneficiary of this fund. My happiness is that I lived
 a
 life worthy of emulation. Please always be prayerful all through your
 life.Please assure me that you will act just as I have stated herein.
 
 Hope to hear from you soon and God bless you and members of your
 family.
 
 NOTE: I will prefer you contact me on my most private and confidential
 email address: mrsstellacole@hotmail.com
 
 Thanks you very much for your time to read my email. I look forward to
 hear from you soonest.
 
 Faithfully Yours
 Mrs Stella Cole
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 I get these things all the time.  Usually about a long lost relative of mine who has died and I'm the sole beneficiary.  If everyone gets these I bet they hook quite a few suckers (probably mostly elderly).
 
 Here's another one I got a couple of days ago-
 
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 Hello,
 
 This letter might surprise you because we have met neither in person
 nor by correspondence but after series of searches on the internet, i
 found it interesting, and decided to contact you
 
 I am Mr. Moore Phillip, Employed with Ashfield Finance, serving
 in Customer Relation Department with the foreign remittance Accountant
 In the Bank.
 
 Dr Robin Blake a good client of mine lost his life and that of the
 family in that London unforgettable bomb blast and he happened to be
 your country man. Incidentally before his death he left a huge sum of
 deposit with the bank, which I have tried to remit to any of his
 relation, but failed due to failure to find his relations.now the bank
 has issued an ultimatum to have the fund retrieved or it will be
 confiscated.
 
 My sole aim of writing you, is to present you as the next of kin. More
 details about this will be communicated to you prior when your
 response is received
 
 Please have no fear for I assure you I have every document needed to
 make this deal which I will send to you on your positive response.
 Waiting in earnestly to hear from you.
 
 Sincerely,
 Mr. Moore Phillip.
 +44 701 112 1960
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 and another-
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 A.C.F
 Association charity foundation nl,
 Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
 
 Based on the random selection exercise of internet service providers
 ISP) and millions of Super market cash invoices worldwide, you were
 selected among the lucky recipients to  receive the award sum of
 US$2,000,000.00 (TWO Million United States Dollars) as charity
 donations/aid from the Association Of European  Charity Foundations
 and the UNO in accordance with the enabling act of Parliament.
 
 On contact with this officer, you'll be given your
 donation pin
 number which you will use in collecting the funds.
 
 Please endeavor to quote your Qualification
 numbers (N-121-6537, G-001-06) in all
 discussions.
 **********************************
 Executive Secretary,
 Mr. Arthur stewart
 Tel:+31-626-415-837
 Fax: +31-847-375-060
 Email: acf_mrarthur_2008@yahoo.com.cn
 **********************************
 
 
 Am I the only one getting these?
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				Yeah, this is your big chance to make it big!
 
 ;)
 
 These are common scams, and there are folks who document how they reverse-scam the scammers.  It's called a 419 scheme, named after the section of Nigeria's law (the most common place for these to originate from) regarding electronic fraud.  There are suckers who have lost tens of thousands to these people because their greed got in the way of their sense.  It's the people that DIDN'T get skeptical like you that screwed up.
 
 Check out http://www.419eater.com/ to see some funny reverse scams.
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				Nope, I get them occassionally - all scams and to be avoided. I just tap the junk mail button then delete.........
 
 
 Wurzel
 
 Although, if you look at 419.com, there are people who annoy the nigerians who do it also.
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				I get them all the time.
 
 Whatever you do do not respond or pay them any attention.  All are scams.
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				Those who fall for any e-mail scams are perfect examples of how the inbreeding that has been going on since Adam and Eve started it all is finally kicking in :)
			
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				I got one last year in which there was a blank cashier's check that had to be gotten out of the country but it was in the wrong denomination...
 
 I told the guy to go ahead and cash it and he could keep half.  He said it went against his morals to keep half of my great uncle twice removed's money...
 
 I gave them a PO box to send the money and my phone number.  THEY ACTUALLY CALLED ME!  They called at 2:00 am and I was groggy and didn't know what to say to them.  They guy spoke with a thick accent (couldn't tell from where).  He said he needed my checking account number and bank routing number.  I told him to just cash the check, keep half and send the rest in cash to my PO box.  I argued with him for a few minutes and hung up.
 
 I still can't believe they had the stones to actually call me...
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				I can't believe you gave them your phone number.
			
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				Originally posted by Curval 
 I can't believe you gave them your phone number.
 
 Why?
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				Originally posted by sluggish 
 Why?
 
 
 Why would you give a bunch of crimminals your telephone number?
 
 They are trying to scam bank info out of you but they don't actually know you at all.  In your case they have *something* to work with...a phone number and PO Box # (unless you gave them a fake one, which is fine).
 
 It is amazing what these scammers can get away with with only limited info on you.
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				lol @ mosty private email...... Hotmail is not private or secure...
 
 Write her back and tell her you were just looking for your next sugar Mama as the last one just died in an accident. Although your still grieving she can help you get over her death. Then tell her that worked when the others died. Then ask for her phone and address so you may send pics and give a call. Sign it your next great lover.
 
 :rofl
 
 419 has setups and help to scam the scammer. If you have some free time it is a blast to make these scammers waste alot of time. They have phone and fax numbers setup that you can give to the scammer and they work together to hassle scammers. Just Google 419.
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				Sluggish,
 
 With your phone number, an index, not the regular phone book but the professional index can be accessed. Even if your phone number is unlisted it does not mean it is unpublished in these indexes. That will give the scammer your address and name. From that info they may be able to further intrude on your security and open accounts.
 
 I do not give out info like that to anyone on the internet I do not know under a circumstance anything like a scam. That's just plain silly.
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				Originally posted by Maverick 
 Sluggish,
 
 With your phone number, an index, not the regular phone book but the professional index can be accessed. Even if your phone number is unlisted it does not mean it is unpublished in these indexes. That will give the scammer your address and name. From that info they may be able to further intrude on your security and open accounts.
 
 I do not give out info like that to anyone on the internet I do not know under a circumstance anything like a scam. That's just plain silly.
 
 
 Listen,  anything can be hacked but if were as easy as you are saying, phone books would be outlawed.
 
 If it were as easy as hacking into someones bank account using phone numbers and addresses, don't you think the scammers would thumbing through phone books rather than sending random emails?
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				Sluggish I'm not talking about hacking at all. It has nothing to do with your computer security. I've used those indexes to track down felons and other wanted folks. Those indexes are available to the public by mail order if you know where to get them. They are cross referenced by name address and phone number. If you have one of those pieces of info you can get the rest.
 
 If you want to give out your personal information have at it. Those interested in making a living through scams will be delighted with your cooperation. No one here is going to be responsible for you or your decisions. Trying to straighten out your credit history will be a very engrossing project should you get hit.
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				One real problem is that you're not considering the gold standard of spam & scam.  They know that most people will ignore them or see through things.  But anyone who jiggles the hook is worth watching.  There are spam & scam lists where folks who expressed interest (even if they didn't follow through) are flagged for more attention.  By giving them your number, you got onto 'a list' as a potential sucker worth investing more time in going forward.  This could include them taking the effort to correlate the publicly available information about you in conjunction with an elaborate phishing expedition or other fraud because, in their book, they now have a 'connection' with you.
			
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				My favorite one was about a Nigerian astronaut who'd been stuck in space for 15 years, and had accrued a HUGE flight bonus, but needed help getting back to earth. I think I've still got that one around here somewhere...
 
 :rofl
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				Originally posted by Chairboy 
 One real problem is that you're not considering the gold standard of spam & scam.  They know that most people will ignore them or see through things.  But anyone who jiggles the hook is worth watching.  There are spam & scam lists where folks who expressed interest (even if they didn't follow through) are flagged for more attention.  By giving them your number, you got onto 'a list' as a potential sucker worth investing more time in going forward.  This could include them taking the effort to correlate the publicly available information about you in conjunction with an elaborate phishing expedition or other fraud because, in their book, they now have a 'connection' with you.
 I say connect away!  You can't squeeze blood from a turnip and such...
 
 But seriously, it's been well over a year since they called and my identity hasn't disappeared yet.
 
 I think you are giving these boneheads more credit than they deserve.  They send millions of emails out and get a few hits.  They employ the same tactics as I've heard some men use to pick up women:  Whisper a lewd comment into 100 women's ears and you'll get your face slapped 99 times.  But there's always that 1...
 
 
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				Possibly.  But I wouldn't give out any more info to anyone.
 
 These guys may be pretty stupid but they have relatives/friends in the US and the lot of them would slit your throat for $10 and not give it a second thought.
 
 Let's be careful out there.
 
 ;)