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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: redman555 on February 28, 2008, 06:55:15 PM
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If you could pick any aircraft to be added to the game, what would it be, personally, i want that B-29
-BigBOBCH
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well...
hmm...
Bf.109C (4x 7,92mm MG17's, main Spanish Civil War 109 variant).
Or a Ta.152C (think that was the one... 4x 20mm cannon and a 30mm in the hubb :t ).
A Ju52 loaded with bombs would be cool to... Spanish Civil War scenario? Ar68's and 109C's vs. I-153's and I-16's... now that would be awesome.
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The VADER :t A-26
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lol
Super-strafer:D
:rofl donkey
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Do-217
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You say any aircraft?
Starwars X-Wing Fighter. :D
Do-217E
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he-111 or me410
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SuperStrafer.
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as always there is never a question which plane I would give my left %^& to fly
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Do335.png)
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Originally posted by JB73
as always there is never a question which plane I would give my left %^& to fly
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Do335.png)
A Jumo-213 and a DB-605 right? I cant seem to remember. The forward engine definately looks like a 213 though.
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Bomber..... Do-217
Attack...... Me-410 or Ki-45 (basically same ideas)
Fighter... Ki-43 (Oscar)
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Originally posted by Motherland
A Jumo-213 and a DB-605 right? I cant seem to remember. The forward engine definately looks like a 213 though.
Both engines are DB 603
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Originally posted by Lusche
Both engines are DB 603
Hmm. Odd lines for a DB 60X engine.
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Originally posted by Motherland
Hmm. Odd lines for a DB 60X engine.
Just a radial radiator.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Just a radial radiator.
Ohhh... kay... I get it now. I thought that was just the way the Jumo-213 looked, as I've only really seen it on the Dora, which has a radial radiator, and I've never seen any other plane with a radial radiator that I can think of. So, I associated the lines of an engine with a radial radiator with the Jumo-213... and here we are.
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I.A.R. 81c
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P-38D, P-38E, P-38F, and P-38H. Honestly, does AH need any other plane than the Lightning? Well, I supposed you can make a small argument for the I.A.R. 81c but that's about it.
ack-ack
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A-26 INVADER
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Brewster
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Originally posted by LLv34_Dictonius
Brewster
Agreed 100%
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Originally posted by JB73
as always there is never a question which plane I would give my left %^& to fly
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Do335.png)
Read somewhere that it had a small explosive charge in the tail.
My guess is, it was activated just before you were ready to bail.
Would remove any (ah hem) dangerous obsticals you may encounter as you pass the rear of your plane.
Or not.
Either way it was an awesome plane!!
They found an old one on the bottom of a lake or something, and the small charge in the rear was still good.
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Originally posted by JB73
as always there is never a question which plane I would give my left %^& to fly
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Do335.png)
Looks like the same motor from the ju-88s and the fw-190D
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Originally posted by beddog
Looks like the same motor from the ju-88s and the fw-190D
That would be the Junkers Jumo 213 (or earlier models in the Ju88). As Lusche explained just earlier, it looks like that due to the radial radiator, even though the engine is different. I thought the same thing at first also. Its a DB-603, similar to the DB-601 (in the 109D and E, and maybe the 110C?) and the DB-605(used in the 109F-K)
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Spitfire Mk XII :aok
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P-47M
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The early Yaks or Mig 1 and 3, maybe even a Russian Buff.
Some more Japanese Aircraft. Ki43, Ki44
Early German Bombers. He111 Do17
F7F
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Originally posted by redman555
If you could pick any aircraft to be added to the game, what would it be, personally, i want that B-29
-BigBOBCH
bird of prey:D
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Originally posted by Rebel
P-47M
+1 :D
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(http://[IMG]http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/FiatG55series1.jpg)[/IMG]
The Italian job.
Fiat G55 series 1........just do a search. Even the Germans wanted it.
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F8..:D knowing that won't happen the Oscar would be nice.
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Originally posted by evenhaim
he-111 or me410
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Polikarpov I-16 Types 24 and 28.
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I'd go for a P-61, or a A-26.:aok
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How about Gloster Gladiator AND Fiat CR.42 biplanes?
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This is sure to rub some feathers wrong..
"While performance was excellent, the aircraft (Fiat G.55) proving superior to the Bf 109K and Fw 190 in testing, production was not allowed by the German authorities."
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I think it depends on whether your a "scenario" guy or a less historical type. With the P-39 now in the need for more early/midwar birds is there. While the brewster would be the most popular choice the "best" fit would actually be the hawk75. It was a contemporary of the brewster and saw service with both the fins and the french so it would fit both sides nicely...
If your more toward the "it's a sim, not a reenactment" then 2 planes stand out...the Do-335 and the F7F. Both are actually 1943 designs that didnt see widespread service but were actually operational in 1944.
The F7F was deploeyed to the fleet in april of 1944 but since Grumman already had the F6F and upcoming F8F it didnt politically rock the boat even though the test pilot (Corky Meyer) felt is was by far the best fighter (prop) the US ever built.
The Do-335 was made the #1 priority for the luftwaffe but the original factory was bombed to rubble and all the major tooling destroyed. Orders were issued to convert the He-219 factory to the 335 but henkle dragged its feet and fought the change keeping the 335 out of the war.
No question both planes played no historical role and would have no place in a scenario etc. They do however represent the 2 most advanced piston engine fighters ever operationally deployed during the war. These two were unique in that they were actually both midwar designs that were ordered into mass production, not late war "concept prototypes" that were never really close to service.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
Spitfire Mk XII :aok
Yep!:aok
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I'd fly the J7W Shinden
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The problem with planes like the J7W is that they never really existed. You dont have any real data since only prototypes were ever built. In the case of the J7W only 1 prototype was ever built. Compare that to the D0-335 which had 34 production planes built and flew some operational sorties or the F7F that went thru a full set of combat evaluations and was operationally deployed to a single stateside squadron (USMC){think had 34 F7F-1's built as well}.
If they wanted to enough data should exist to model both planes reasonably well. Most of the major varients in the "late war" arenas are represented {the G.55/P-63 being the exceptions}. The bulk of planes that can be added are either early or midwar planes. Since 80% of the player base seems to fly the LWA's almost exclusively I dont know how much play most newer additions will get.
We really havent had a new "perk monster" in awhile. While the D0-335/F7F {or both} would continue the addition of planes of marginal historical value (if any) they would get wide use in the LWA and also provide some interesting insight into the potential value of these planes had they been deployed.
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Ju87G1 or G2.
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Originally posted by Judochop
This is sure to rub some feathers wrong..
"While performance was excellent, the aircraft (Fiat G.55) proving superior to the Bf 109K and Fw 190 in testing, production was not allowed by the German authorities."
The G.55 was never tested vs either the K4 or any late model 190. It was actually a midwar bird and testing was done in Feb of 1943 vs a 109G4 and 190A5. The biggest benifit to the G.55 was that it had 3 x 20mm integrated into the design without gondolas. Kurt Tank contnued to work on a 5 x 20mm version after Italy surrendered. General concensus is that the G.55 performed equally to the 109 and was judged slightly inferior to the 190 by the germans. The G.55 ceretainly had better landing/takeoff handling then the 109 did and the end result was an "official" request to replace the 109 with the G.55 by the luftwaffe. It was determined that the G.55 took 2.5 or more times the man hours to build at a comparetively higher cost so the request was denied.
There is no question that the G.55 significantly outperformed both the 190 & 109 if they had been configured with the heavy gun packages. The G.55 also had a significant edge in range (20%+) so given the US losses in daylight bombing had even a few squadrons of G.55's been available in mid 1943 the course of the airwar might have changed since the G.55's had the performance to contest the 38's and jugs and the firepower to hit the buffs as well as some additional "time on station" to play with...
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............ME 410.........
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Me-410
He-162
Ki-43
He-177
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P-47 -m :aok +2
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I was remiss earlier in not doing my full I-16 spiel so here it is (again):
The Polikarpov I-16 was produced in both high and low wing monoplane versions, both with and without enclosed cockpits, and in both single and two set trainer versions. Quite the versitile airframe.
(http://www.commemorativeairforce.org/gallery/acgallery/fullsize/I-16_fs.jpg)
General characteristics
• Crew: one pilot
• Length: 6.13 m (20.1 ft)
• Wingspan: 9.00 m (29.5 ft)
• Height: 2.25 m (7.38 ft)
• Wing area: 14.54 m² (156.5 ft²)
• Empty weight: 1,383 kg (3,049 lb)
• Loaded weight: 1,882 kg (4,149 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 2,050 kg (4,520 lb)
• Powerplant: 1× Shvetsov M-63 air-cooled radial engine, 670 kW (900 hp) driving a two-blade propeller
Performance
• Maximum speed: 460 km/h (290 mph)
• Range: 440 km (275 mi)
• Service ceiling: 9,700 m (31,800 ft)
• Rate of climb: 14.7 m/s (2,900 ft/min)
• Wing loading: 129 kg/m² (26 lb/ft²)
• Power/mass: 0.36 kW/kg (0.22 hp/lb)
Armament
• 4× fixed forward-firing 7.62 mm (.30 cal) ShKAS machine guns, a total of 3,100 rounds of ammunition.
• 6× RS-82 rockets or up to 100 kg (220 lb) of bombs
Built from 1933 through 1941 with over half still in service in 1943 the Polikarpov IL-16 was a historically significant aircraft. I was the worlds first monoplane fighter, the first with retractable landing gear, and the first with a closed cockpit (some versions). It was built in many varients over it's lifespan but the type 24 was the most used varient in WWII. The type 28 replaces two of the 7.62 mm ShKAS with to 20mm ShVAK cannons.
Over 20000 were produced (among the highest production aircraft of WWII)
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Alright then Uh....
Maybe the OS2U Kingfisher
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(http://www.usu.edu/afrotc/images/f22%202.jpg)
Oh, you mean WWII plane...
In that case, never mind.
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Originally posted by Ongurth
(http://www.usu.edu/afrotc/images/f22%202.jpg)
Oh, you mean WWII plane...
In that case, never mind.
That is my favorite recent day plane =D Fa-22 Raptor = D shes so pretty lol
-BigBOBCH
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F4u-4c - Same F4u-4 as we have in game, but 4x 20mm cannons with same loadout F4u-C has.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
Read somewhere that it had a small explosive charge in the tail.
My guess is, it was activated just before you were ready to bail.
Would remove any (ah hem) dangerous obsticals you may encounter as you pass the rear of your plane.
Or not.
Either way it was an awesome plane!!
They found an old one on the bottom of a lake or something, and the small charge in the rear was still good.
they were to jettison the lower vertical stabilizer and rear propeller in case of a gear up ditch.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Built from 1933 through 1941 with over half still in service in 1943 the Polikarpov IL-16 was a historically significant aircraft. I was the worlds first monoplane fighter, the first with retractable landing gear, and the first with a closed cockpit (some versions).
Well, the I-16 wasn't the first fighter to have an enclosed cockpit and retractable gear. Grumman's FF1 had both in 1931. The Junkers D-1 of 1918 was a true monoplane fighter. What the I-16 did was incorporate all of the these innovations into one design.
My regards,
Widewing
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(http://www.simviation.com/pageimages/d520runwy.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/davest/Yak3.jpg)
Yak3
...-Gixer
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I'm an Events guy, so it's the D4Y Judy Judy Judy for me.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/D4Y3_pulling_up.jpg)
Gives the IJN a Fighting Chance in 1943.
Otherwise my dream ride would be the Yak-9UT.
-Sik
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P-61 Black Widow
(http://www.emotionreports.com/images/p-61_1%20expanded.JPG)
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Prop: Fiat G.55
Bomber: B29 with conventional bombs.
Jet: Me262 A-1a/U4
Bomber destroyer version, two prototypes with an adapted 50 mm MK 214 (or Bordkanone BK 5) anti-tank gun in nose
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38H
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I think that current plane setup is good and we dont need more.
So.. no more planes please.
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Fiat G.55
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Originally posted by humble
The G.55 was never tested vs either the K4 or any late model 190. It was actually a midwar bird and testing was done in Feb of 1943 vs a 109G4 and 190A5. The biggest benifit to the G.55 was that it had 3 x 20mm integrated into the design without gondolas. Kurt Tank contnued to work on a 5 x 20mm version after Italy surrendered. General concensus is that the G.55 performed equally to the 109 and was judged slightly inferior to the 190 by the germans. The G.55 ceretainly had better landing/takeoff handling then the 109 did and the end result was an "official" request to replace the 109 with the G.55 by the luftwaffe. It was determined that the G.55 took 2.5 or more times the man hours to build at a comparetively higher cost so the request was denied.
There is no question that the G.55 significantly outperformed both the 190 & 109 if they had been configured with the heavy gun packages. The G.55 also had a significant edge in range (20%+) so given the US losses in daylight bombing had even a few squadrons of G.55's been available in mid 1943 the course of the airwar might have changed since the G.55's had the performance to contest the 38's and jugs and the firepower to hit the buffs as well as some additional "time on station" to play with...
The G.55 was one of the 3 seiries 5 fighters that the Italians made. The 2005, .205 and the G.55 were all built around the same time. The G.55 was acually a late war high-alt fighter which outpreformed the .205 in high alts. They could not chose which one was better so they let all of them go into production.
There main problem was that was that they built them like they were Ferraris, with time. If they did not do this, they would have a significant impact on the war.
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Originally posted by Bosco123
There main problem was that was that they built them like they were Ferraris, with time. If they did not do this, they would have a significant impact on the war.
Rommel would disagree with you on "Ferrari-like Quality".
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Originally posted by Wingnutt
+1 :D
+2:D
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Spit 10 1/2 or B-30 1/3 of course, naturally... we need them :rolleyes: :noid
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Originally posted by Wingnutt
+1 :D
+3 :aok
Can we throw in something like the concorde for troop delivery?
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He111
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A6M3
Ki-43
Enough said. :aok
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Originally posted by mipoikel
I think that current plane setup is good and we dont need more.
So.. no more planes please.
Yes that's be good for me also as I am quite happy now with this plane .
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1007_1204407472_ki84blue3kils.jpg)
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Bomber: HE111 or bomber mossie
Fighter: 163
Attack: A26
GV: 88mm flak, with both AP, HE and flak round or 2 EW tanks (Panzer III?)
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well just for something different id like
gloster gladiator
fiat cr42
and I153
biplanes should suit a few of the strange guys here
BIsexual = you pay for it ?
Tri sexual =you try anything ?