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Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
Over the past 6 or 7 months 5point has been collection model airplanes. Everytime we go to wal-mart we have to run to the toy section to see if they have any new ones. I thought I would post pics of the ones we have now and see if you guys have any. We have about 3 more that we have to put together and 2 small ones also that are 1:100 scale size but cant get them to look right with the camera.

Here are the ones we pics of. We have a total of 12 model planes..

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes003.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes007.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes006.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes010.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes012.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes014.jpg)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j138/Nanci05/planes016.jpg)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: DrDea on February 29, 2008, 11:58:16 AM
Thats just way to clean.Get some burnt umber and turpentude and make a wash to dirty up those panel lines for cod's sake.
 The horror.Oh the horror.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 12:10:26 PM
we just laid that flooring on sat and we did it wrong we are going to take it all up and do it again. If your so worried about the lines why dont you come over and make your little mixture and do it yourself. I dont see me walking around my house in a maid outfit cleaning and doing everything. Your more than welcome to swing by and do it if you'd like.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Dux on February 29, 2008, 12:28:07 PM
lol... zooom!

He's talking bout the models. :lol
Title: Model Planes
Post by: republic on February 29, 2008, 12:29:56 PM
I saw those at Walmart too, I picked up a 109-G6.

Wish they would have had those toys when I was a kid...  :(
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Airscrew on February 29, 2008, 12:30:07 PM
Hey, MsB,  I think Dea was talkin about the planes,  not the floor :lol ... they need to look used and beatup...
Title: Model Planes
Post by: DrDea on February 29, 2008, 12:41:33 PM
:rofl  I wasnt even looking at the floor.I was refering to the planes being to clean.I like to dirty em up a bit.Dirt in the wing panels and such.Grease on the wheels and all that just been used in combat stuff.Gives em character but bt all means,you bought em and you can display em anyway you prefer.Its just alot of fun to give em a used look.:aok
Title: Model Planes
Post by: indy007 on February 29, 2008, 12:46:40 PM
Good start, but they need weathering and proper highlighting no matter what. That's just part of modelling in general.

Highlighting, as its most basic, is fading the colors and making the edges brighter and shinier. It adds definition, and there's multiple techniques for doing it.

The quick way is "dry-brushing". For example, if you wanted to do the edges of your bombs, you'd paint them a darker metal color. Then, with your lighter color, get a bit on the end of your brush, and wipe most of it off on a napkin. Now lightly brush that over the surfaces. The paint will stick the the edges and brighten them up.

Highlighting by hand is very, very time consuming. It involves anywhere from 3 to 102983213 shades between the colors and requires an exceptionally steady hand. For my generic troops in warhammer 40k armies, I tend to do 7 shades, and 15 shades for leaders... but those are for competition and affect tournament point scores. I'm not very good at it :(

Inking is a "cheater" method imho, but it works. It's literally an ink, so make sure you cut it with water, then simply "wash" it over the model. The ink well settle in crevices, dry, and darken them up nicely. The downside is that sometimes it turns out too shiny (at least for my liking).

Black-lining would really make the colors pop and be a beautiful model, but you lose a bit of the realism. That, imho, is better for personell instead of vehicles, but I've seen it done before.

Weathering just makes stuff look used. I prefer mine in parade ground appearance, but iirc, a good technique is to use wall spackle mixed with brown paint. This gives a nice "mud" you can apply with a brush. Running your thumb over a toothbrush loaded with it can give you some really nice spray patterns.

Try this site. (http://www.dakkadakka.com) It's actually for miniature wargaming models, but the methods and techniques for painting vehicles are the exact same.

This is *not* my work, but it helps give the idea. Look at the skull on top of his banner pole. That's good highlighting between just 2 colors ("bone white" & some shade of brown.. forgot what its called), and then highlighted again with a touch of white. The results can be fantastic with a bit of practice.

(http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Ork_Warlord_Ghazghkull_Mag_Uruk_Thraka.gif)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: DieAz on February 29, 2008, 12:48:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MsBhaven
we just laid that flooring on sat and we did it wrong we are going to take it all up and do it again. If your so worried about the lines why dont you come over and make your little mixture and do it yourself. I dont see me walking around my house in a maid outfit cleaning and doing everything. Your more than welcome to swing by and do it if you'd like.



:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

too funny. woman posts comments and pics of planes, then thinks he is talking about the floor.


sorry I'm laughing about it , but it is too funny.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rondar on February 29, 2008, 01:00:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MsBhaven
I dont see me walking around my house in a maid outfit cleaning and doing everything.


Yeah Yeah, but I bet it's one o them French Maid Outfits tho. :lol
Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 01:06:45 PM
Oh LOL i thought you were talking about the floor. I never knew that you could do that kind of stuff to model planes. When you said turpentude i thought that was some kind of floor cleaner. LOL.. whoops.. Oh well i just wanted to post them and see if you guys had anything.

 DieAz Your the reason not alot of girls play this game..
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Shamus on February 29, 2008, 01:09:43 PM
For future reference, you should display all your models on a clothes dryer.

shamus
Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 01:12:56 PM
why would i want to display them on a clothes dryer
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Airscrew on February 29, 2008, 01:17:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MsBhaven
why would i want to display them on a clothes dryer

Keeps you closer to the laundry room... dont you have some clothes to fold?  And do something about that floor,,  jjeezzz, girls playing with model airplanes... whats the world comin too...
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Shamus on February 29, 2008, 01:18:38 PM
It seems to be becoming the standard in AH :)



shamus
Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 01:21:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Airscrew
Keeps you closer to the laundry room... dont you have some clothes to fold?  And do something about that floor,,  jjeezzz, girls playing with model airplanes... whats the world comin too...


first of all i dont play with the model airplanes they just sit around and second i am 21 i am not a house wife or a maid. Oh and lets get real guys you act like you dont like girls playing the game with you and that are interested in the same things..RIGHT for some reason i dont believe it.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Shamus on February 29, 2008, 01:24:44 PM
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z207/Pimpzdog/Picture023.jpg

Sorry, do a search in aircraft under pipz, kind of an inside joke:)

shamus
Title: Model Planes
Post by: DieAz on February 29, 2008, 01:44:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MsBhaven

 DieAz Your the reason not alot of girls play this game..


because I laughed?
or said sorry?
or maybe some other reason?

please do tell. why am I the reason?
Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 02:05:55 PM
well it seemed to me that you made it sound like a girl cant post on here by the way you said "woman post comments and pics of planes, and thinks he is talking about the floor" like i said b4 i didnt know you could do that kinda of stuff to planes.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Regulator on February 29, 2008, 02:10:54 PM
Very nice work on the models, very nice.

I like both immaculate models and those "weathered" to look a little war weary.  Both styles can be appreciated for excellence in modeling, and the beauty of the aircraft design.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: DieAz on February 29, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
lol, you are one word off with that quote.
that one word can mean a big difference in how something is perceived.
the reason I was laughing so hard is in ( ). (usually, women sees things different than men do.)
or as Dux said "zooom!" {not going to explain that one}
you can post all you want.
I never said anyone couldn't post.
this is HTC's house and is their say on, who is welcomed or not.

by the way, welcome to AH.
:p  don't get :furious , I am just :t  sometimes. :aok
Title: Model Planes
Post by: ChickenHawk on February 29, 2008, 02:58:37 PM
Nice looking planes.  Thanks for sharing. It makes me want to finish that 190 thats been sitting in my closet for a couple years waiting for that perfect paint job.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: MsBhaven on February 29, 2008, 05:04:53 PM
its okay, i now get what you were talking about and when i told 5point about this today he had no idea either you could make the model planes look old. so sorry. and thanks for the welcome
Title: Model Planes
Post by: sluggish on February 29, 2008, 08:08:39 PM
I've got the mustang and I've been looking at the bubble top jug.  I've also got a B stang in a smaller scale.  These are made by Corgi and come fully detailed.  For lazy people like myself they are perfect.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: texasmom on February 29, 2008, 08:38:03 PM
I didn't know that you're "supposed" to give them the battered look. I've got nothing but sons. I always harass them because their models look like crap after being tossed around, "flown" into the grass, off of the roof, into the dogs, through entryways & into bookshelves, through the ceiling fan.

Who knew!?!
Title: Model Planes
Post by: sluggish on February 29, 2008, 08:48:43 PM
That laminate looks awesome.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Xasthur on February 29, 2008, 09:09:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MsBhaven
first of all i dont play with the model airplanes they just sit around and second i am 21 i am not a house wife or a maid. Oh and lets get real guys you act like you dont like girls playing the game with you and that are interested in the same things..RIGHT for some reason i dont believe it.


There is a person here who builds model aircraft a lot.

He always posts photos of the models on top of his washing machine. People complain that the models don't look 'right' if he doesn't photograph them on his washing machine.

It's an inside joke.

Those models look cool, I haven't seen anything of that quality in Australia... I just make my own instead.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Maverick on February 29, 2008, 09:34:55 PM
Txmom,

Do your kids hang the models from the ceiling? I did that when I built models as a kid. I had 3 corners set up in 3 different eras of flight. WW1, WW2 and Korea. They were set in different angles as if in a dogfight. At least until my little sister got in my room with a pair of scissors. :mad:
Title: Model Planes
Post by: texasmom on February 29, 2008, 09:36:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Maverick
Txmom,

Do your kids hang the models from the ceiling? I did that when I built models as a kid. I had 3 corners set up in 3 different eras of flight. WW1, WW2 and Korea. They were set in different angles as if in a dogfight. At least until my little sister got in my room with a pair of scissors. :mad:


Nope, they sure don't. Any time that my kids build the models, they're strictly for play-time... not at all for display.  Someday they may get to the point where they display them... for now they're still playing with them :)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: LePaul on February 29, 2008, 10:02:10 PM
Ive seen the large toy airplanes at WalMart around the holidays.  

I confess...the German-marked F-104G was too cool to pass up  :)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rino on March 01, 2008, 01:56:21 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
There is a person here who builds model aircraft a lot.

He always posts photos of the models on top of his washing machine. People complain that the models don't look 'right' if he doesn't photograph them on his washing machine.

It's an inside joke.

Those models look cool, I haven't seen anything of that quality in Australia... I just make my own instead.


It's Pipz :D
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rino on March 01, 2008, 02:00:57 AM
One thing about weathering, most folks go off the deep end overdoing it.
When I was in, the planes looked a little dirty sometimes real dirt magnet...the F4 Phantom>, but they would be washed and painted
regularly.

      Some birds, like the Japanese ones stuck out on the islands for years,
could get pretty grimy.  But most ground crew takes too much pride in their
birds to let it go as much as alot here seem to think.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rino on March 01, 2008, 02:03:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by texasmom
I didn't know that you're "supposed" to give them the battered look. I've got nothing but sons. I always harass them because their models look like crap after being tossed around, "flown" into the grass, off of the roof, into the dogs, through entryways & into bookshelves, through the ceiling fan.

Who knew!?!


Before I tow a plane at Morristown, I'm supposed to do a walk around and note
any damage to the bird before it moves.  I swear there are some that come in
where it's easier to note where it ISN'T dinged up :lol
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rino on March 01, 2008, 02:12:03 AM
Since I don't seem to have the time for assembling plastic anymore, I've
switched to collecting diecast.  Here is one that CorkyJr turned me onto
from Eagles International...a 1/48th scale Lee Archer bird Ina the Macon Belle.

(http://www.onmarkint.com/images/1/10003/10003a.jpg)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Guppy35 on March 01, 2008, 02:23:41 AM
Rino's a diecast fanatic.  My first 38 came via Glenn.  Conned me into 1/72nd P47s now to go with 15 Armour 1/48th scale 38s, including 2 80th Headhunter birds :)

Got two Eagles International 4th FG Mustang too and a couple of Corgi 1/72nd birds (Spit V and Hurri ) that I got for doing the profiles for them.

Diecast birds are addicting, and I'm an old model builder from way back.

Armour 1/48th P-38J "Jandina IV"  80th FS Headhunters, pilot Jay Robbins

(http://www.diecastace.com/sitebuilder/images/review_fm_p38_jadina.01-958x653.jpg)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: AWMac on March 01, 2008, 02:33:15 AM
My bedroom when I was 15 looked like the Battle of Britain...

Planes with holes in them, some with flames, some smokin, diving in a death spin minus a wing... all hanging from the ceiling with fishin line.

Had the ceiling painted blue with clouds and puff ack.

It was my room. Loved it.

Mac
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Bluedog on March 01, 2008, 04:27:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by texasmom
Nope, they sure don't. Any time that my kids build the models, they're strictly for play-time... not at all for display.  Someday they may get to the point where they display them... for now they're still playing with them :)


I'm 36 and I have been known to hold a model at arm's length and make 'Vroom...dakka dakka dakka' sounds to this very day ;)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: SD67 on March 01, 2008, 04:58:35 AM
I had an awesome MIG25 model I made when I was in primary school (grade school for you yanks:lol), it was so good I thought it could actually fly so I cut out holes in the tailpipes for a pair of rocket motors from the local hobby shop. Lets just say it was a spectacular lesson in the mechanics of weight and balance.
I also had an awesome TigerII model that I later motorised and R/C'ed.
There were many others, but those two really stand out.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: airspro on March 01, 2008, 05:03:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Shamus
It seems to be becoming the standard in AH :)



shamus


Yes quit true shamus and all GVs are shown on electric ranges  :aok

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Grayeagle on March 01, 2008, 05:15:01 AM
er ..

..as far as I know 'modeling' is not the process of buying something to look at.

Nice planes tho :)

-GE aka Frank (who hasn't 'modeled' for years)
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rino on March 01, 2008, 12:00:55 PM
Like anyone would want to see your ugly butt in a bikini GE :D
Title: Model Planes
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2008, 04:10:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bluedog
I'm 36 and I have been known to hold a model at arm's length and make 'Vroom...dakka dakka dakka' sounds to this very day ;)


:)  That's perfect.
Title: Model Planes
Post by: Rino on March 02, 2008, 04:28:39 PM
When I was in the AF, I used to build alot of model aircraft.  Most of
them were weird ones like the Saab J21 or MS 406s.  I ended up with
72 models taped to the concrete ceiling of my dorm room.  I guess it was
a bit unusual because they asked me if it was "ok" if Gen Creech inspected
the room.  Since he had 4 stars and I had 2 stripes, I thought it would be
ok :rolleyes:

     About 6 months later, the pride of my fleet
decided to depart the ceiling and auger.  This event got me fed up enough
to invite my roomie to a day out in the swamps of Georgia shooting
plastic models with .22 rifles.  A good time was had, and it was better than
just tossing em in the trash :D
Title: Model Planes
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2008, 05:05:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Rino
... the pride of my fleet

decided to depart the ceiling and auger.  This event got me fed up enough
to invite my roomie to a day out in the swamps of Georgia shooting
plastic models with .22 rifles.  A good time was had, and it was better than
just tossing em in the trash :D


:D