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Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: SIG220 on February 29, 2008, 06:41:17 PM
So much for illegal immigration being harmless to society:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334112,00.html


http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4340746
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on February 29, 2008, 06:48:14 PM
Last weeks news. And not at all uncommon. Happens 2-3 times every six months around here. Usually they've been "caught and released" a couple of times before.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Selino631 on February 29, 2008, 07:08:33 PM
that is crazy right there, what they should do is have busisness have all there employes information that they are legal and everything thing and if there not... boot the out of OUR COUNTRY!!!!:furious
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Donzo on February 29, 2008, 07:20:42 PM
From our local paper: http://www.startribune.com/local/16125177.html (http://www.startribune.com/local/16125177.html)
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: LePaul on February 29, 2008, 07:43:02 PM
Sadly 4 kids had to die before the national media really got the message....this is a huge problem, let's finally deal with it.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: SteveBailey on February 29, 2008, 11:30:17 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Sadly 4 kids had to die before the national media really got the message....this is a huge problem, let's finally deal with it.



You think they goot the message?  I do not.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Xargos on February 29, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
You think they got the message?  I do not.


Neither do I.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Donzo on February 29, 2008, 11:45:47 PM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
You think they got the message?


Nope.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Saxman on March 01, 2008, 12:35:32 AM
Yeah, it's not like legal residents aren't ever killing people in wrecks after running traffic signals. :rolleyes:
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: moot on March 01, 2008, 01:02:10 AM
Saxman do you have stats showing illegals are at least as safe as regular americans on the road and any other aspect?
Not only they trespass and leech, they also make a mess...
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: eagl on March 01, 2008, 01:09:00 AM
More "proof".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpomTIkv0V8

Dunno where they got the names or statistics from, but it sure is maddening if there is a shred of truth to it.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Pooh21 on March 01, 2008, 01:12:05 AM
lots of hit and runs around here are done by illegals.

One girl jogging last year died cause instead of calling for help our burrito munching border jumper made a run for the border.

Not an American citizen and kill one. Bullet to the head :aok
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Saxman on March 01, 2008, 09:33:47 AM
moot,

Do you have any empirical stats that show they AREN'T?

eagl,

What's maddening about that video is, once again, that it's skewed to focus only on the actions of a small part of one group. Like I said before: I guess that means people in the country legally don't commit violent crime?

It's one thing to argue that they shouldn't be here because they're in the country in violation of emigration laws, but for THIS is just stupid.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Donzo on March 01, 2008, 09:43:25 AM
Hey sax.....If she wasn't here illegally would those kids have died?
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: Xasthur on March 01, 2008, 09:51:46 AM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Yeah, it's not like legal residents aren't ever killing people in wrecks after running traffic signals. :rolleyes:


Where are you going to deport legal residents to? Legal citizens are sent to jail for said acts.

The argument that 'we do it too' is meaningless and redundant. What does it justify?

Removing illegals is the removal of additional risk. That youtube clip claims that 48 000 Americans have been killed by llegal immigrants since 9/11. Since they provide no source for this claim we will assume, for argument's sake, that a maximum of one quarter of this number is true.

That is 12 000 people that would not have died had the illegal immigrants not been able to gain entry to the country in the first place. I don't know about you, mate, but if that was happening in my country I would not be happy about it.

You can't get rid of all the law-breakers and fools but you certainly should get rid of the ones that don't belong there in the first place.

Of course legal citizens commit crimes... they are sent to jail and are just as contemptible as the illegals that do the same thing. The difference between the two is that the illegal immigrant has committed the additional crime  of simply being there in the first place.

I don't want to sound like an stunninghunk here but the prevention of needless deaths should be high on any country's agenda.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: DrDea on March 01, 2008, 10:07:59 AM
This is just all to common.Arizona is the only state I know of that is now targeting the employers and dropping a heavy hand on licences of buisness owners if multiple infractions are found.Its a start.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: moot on March 01, 2008, 10:13:40 AM
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Originally posted by Saxman
moot,

Do you have any empirical stats that show they AREN'T?
I have empirical evidence they need to GTFO.  That they're crashing cars and using stolen ID (including voting apparently!), leeching healthcare, as well as slipping through the cracks of law enforcement, etc is just icing on the trespassing cake.
Where's your evidence that legal residents break anywhere as many laws as illegals?  This does merit special attention, the same way diplomats or their relatives going on joyrides with immunity deserve it.  That's what illegals have, and it's not to a negligibly lesser degree.
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: lazs2 on March 01, 2008, 10:22:08 AM
let's work out the complex math shall we...

remove the illegals and the xxxxxx amount of crimes they do commit and we will remove.. let's see..  xxxxxx amount of crime.

they are just doing the crime that the citizens are too lazy to do.

lazs
Title: Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Young School Kids
Post by: john9001 on March 01, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
they are just doing the crime that the citizens are too lazy to do.

lazs



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