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Title: hard time
Post by: kazz on March 03, 2008, 05:48:46 PM
ok i cant do anything with mi joystick adn every time i ppull up mi plane rumbles and plummits towards the ground i need help now!
Title: hard time
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 03, 2008, 06:05:24 PM
I've heard a trick called "proper spelling and grammar" but I think it's just a rumor.

Try decreasing the fuel loadout, and wait for your plane to gain plenty of speed before gently pulling up on your stick.
Title: hard time
Post by: TalonX on March 03, 2008, 06:29:29 PM
Try no more than 50% fuel, gain speed, then keep it while you practice maneuvering.
Title: hard time
Post by: otis63 on March 04, 2008, 06:35:08 AM
Check to see if your axis got switched somehow in controller preferences. That has happened to me a couple of times. Not sure why but they did. Just a suggestion.
Title: hard time
Post by: Hawk55 on March 04, 2008, 06:50:56 AM
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Originally posted by EskimoJoe
I've heard a trick called "proper spelling and grammar" but I think it's just a rumor.


Agree Joe...maybe some effort at proof reading what one typed might also be useful.  My goodness...:eek:
Title: hard time
Post by: Ghosth on March 04, 2008, 07:17:34 AM
How to fly:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=193009
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/flightcontrols/flightcontrols.htm

Takeoff and landing:
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/takeofffield/takeofffield.htm
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/landingfield/landingfield.htm
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/landingcarrier/landingcarrier.htm
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/landingcarrier/landingcarrier.htm

Also a very important thing to do is setting your views! After all you cannot shoot someone you dont see.
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/views/views.htm
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/overthenose/overthenose.

I'm in the TA most afternoons roughly from 3 - 4:30 central time.
Feel free to give me a shout and we'll see what we can do.
Title: hard time
Post by: Bosch232 on March 04, 2008, 09:17:08 AM
Remember that Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosemite Sam chases Bugs into a huge airplane parked on the tarmac?  And in the next scene Bugs is in the pilot's seat, wearing a pilot's cap, and buried behind a four foot high book titled "How To Fly"...?

Hilarious.    :D
Title: Re: hard time
Post by: SWrokit on March 04, 2008, 09:46:20 AM
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Originally posted by kazz
ok i cant do anything with mi joystick adn every time i ppull up mi plane rumbles and plummits towards the ground i need help now!



Kazz, many unknown variables with your post.  From what little you posted Bro definitely sounds as though your stalling out.  Without being there to actually see what your doing it's hard to advise.

It appears you are new to the game, welcome.  I would recommend you take a little time, and Ghosth's advice..........take a trip to the "Training Arena", it will be well worth your investment of time.  Most times there will be a trainer on duty like Ghosth.  Even if there isn't a trainer on, there is generally experienced players in the TA that will offer you help in improving your flying skills.................not your "Spelling & Grammer".

Again, welcome to HTC..........your newst addiction  :D

Title: hard time
Post by: BaldEagl on March 04, 2008, 10:49:25 AM
Most likely your plane "rumbles and plummits towards the ground" because it's stalling.  In most planes you need at least 150 mph ias (the white needle on the speedometer) before you can even begin to think about pulling up and even that is marginal.

I suggest, until you learn a little more, that you turn on auto take-off.  It's located under options/preferences IIRC.
Title: Re: hard time
Post by: humble on March 04, 2008, 11:22:25 AM
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Originally posted by kazz
ok i cant do anything with mi joystick adn every time i ppull up mi plane rumbles and plummits towards the ground i need help now!


Dont pull up....

While this is partially tongue in cheek its also fundementally correct.

Learning to accurately gauge stick inputs is a fundemental part of flying (both IRL and in a sim). More real pilots die from excessive inputs/correction then any other pilot related cause. The single biggest fundemental in teaching unusual atitude recovery IRL is "unloading" the control surfaces. Many planes are very docile prior to departure and early attention to input and power settings avoid often fatal complications due to either overspeeding or overstressing the airframe (think JFK Jr). If you simply "let go" you find that your plane will self correct rather nicely prior to a full stall...once "stable" simple control inputs will return you to level flight.

Probably the best (saddest) example of this is the 737 crash in Pittsburgh (US Air I believe) where two seasoned pilots were so overwhelmed they never unloaded the plane and crashed even though they had plenty of air under the wings for well over a minute...

In the game as you get more experienced the ability to control stick pressure in a knife fight often comes down to unloading or almost unloading the plane in low speed high AoA (Angle of attack) conditions to maximize E state and maintain control at the edge of the flight envelope.

As a side note the recent 737 clip from hamburg shows outstanding judgement and proper control inputs under life threatening conditions as the plane was thrown into unusual attitude at the worst possible moment.
Title: hard time
Post by: fuzeman on March 04, 2008, 02:17:24 PM
mac shure ur stickjoy si calibreated ni windoes adn ni Asec High.
Title: hard time
Post by: Lusche on March 04, 2008, 02:19:13 PM
:rofl
Title: hard time
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 04, 2008, 05:51:47 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
:rofl

:rofl
Title: hard time
Post by: Marshal on March 04, 2008, 09:08:13 PM
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Originally posted by fuzeman
mac shure ur stickjoy si calibreated ni windoes adn ni Asec High.


:rofl
Title: hard time
Post by: Meatwad on March 04, 2008, 10:22:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
:rofl

:D
Title: Re: Re: hard time
Post by: uberslet on March 05, 2008, 06:04:10 AM
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Originally posted by SWrokit
Kazz, many unknown variables with your post.  From what little you posted Bro definitely sounds as though your stalling out.  Without being there to actually see what your doing it's hard to advise.

It appears you are new to the game, welcome.  I would recommend you take a little time, and Ghosth's advice..........take a trip to the "Training Arena", it will be well worth your investment of time.  Most times there will be a trainer on duty like Ghosth.  Even if there isn't a trainer on, there is generally experienced players in the TA that will offer you help in improving your flying skills.................not your "Spelling & Grammer".

Again, welcome to HTC..........your newst addiction  :D

WOOT! Roket said what I was THINKING! :aok
Title: Re: hard time
Post by: kilz on March 06, 2008, 11:20:08 AM
mac shure ur stickjoy si calibreated ni windoes adn ni Asec High.

by all means lets discourage the boy from posting in here by making him look stupid OUTSTANDING JOB. this coming from a CM team member
Title: Re: hard time
Post by: jimson on March 06, 2008, 11:42:33 AM
I missed the part about good grammer being a requirement to post, and when did my witchy high school english teacher become a moderator here?
Title: Re: hard time
Post by: Hawk55 on March 06, 2008, 11:54:34 AM
mac shure ur stickjoy si calibreated ni windoes adn ni Asec High.
:lol :rofl
Title: Re: hard time
Post by: kilz on March 06, 2008, 01:45:32 PM
I missed the part about good grammer being a requirement to post, and when did my witchy high school english teacher become a moderator here?

dont worry about it. you will soon find there are lot of people that troll the forums. hope you found some useful info on this thread