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Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: moose on March 04, 2008, 10:38:31 AM
im surprised you guys arent all over this..
anyone know whether the video is faked? i dont have any sound at work but the dog didnt look too alive in the vid..
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 10:43:27 AM
Doesn't appear to be faked, but certainly appears to be a tremendously stupid PR move either way.  The guy lives a couple miles from my mom & sister (pretty much exactly between them) in Monroe, I've asked them to keep their ears open.  I'm curious if it'll make it into the local media or rumor mill.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 10:48:17 AM
Not sure what is worse, that...or being naked and urinating on fellow soldiers...
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gfDdCUdpqPcfhjVq4hODS-C0lyxg
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Eagler on March 04, 2008, 03:13:32 PM
strange how some think just turning a person into a soldier will make that person a stable/ honest / upright / outstanding individual ... my guess is the armed services has more than their fair share of crack pots
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: trax1 on March 04, 2008, 03:17:56 PM
I don't know, I think the vid is faked.  I mean you have atleast 3 guys in it, and I doubt all three would go along with killing a puppy.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: rpm on March 04, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
The Marines are investigating. We'll find out if it's faked or not. I'm no PETA member, but that was just wrong.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Yeager on March 04, 2008, 03:23:13 PM
heard a radio interview of the marines sister. She vouched her brother was raised around pets and was a life long dog lover (her words).  She is incredulous at the amount of hate mail the family has recieved and does not believe her brother is guilty of animal abuse and believes this is a staged event.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
If it's staged, it's an unbelievably dumb staged event.  If it's not staged, then it's callous, cruel, and then back to unbelievably dumb.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: LePaul on March 04, 2008, 04:23:14 PM
Man let's hope its a stupid attempt at bad humor.  That's just bad.  

But I assure you, Al-Jezzerra (sp?) will make that their hourly highlight for weeks
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 04:30:14 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Man let's hope its a stupid attempt at bad humor.  That's just bad.  

But I assure you, ABC, NBC, and CBS will make that their hourly highlight for weeks

Fixed!
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 04, 2008, 04:59:36 PM
What i find funny is the repost's and movies of all these *bleeding hearts* posting there opinions of the matter on you tube all while having the other videos of the puppy killing being removed.

people telling him HE needs to grow a set of bigger balls (the guy in a war zone, the guy in a uniform, the guy with a gun in his hand) is very comedic.
His voice sounded like someone you would *fake punch* and watch him hit the deck while making some kinda "eeeek" sound.


Honestly, kill a puppy..kill two.

If it gets your jollys off, and stops you from shooting that 30 mag of rounds into some crowd of people you no longer feal like working for (iraqis) i say go for it. At least they didnt chain them up and make them run for hours on end in the arctic snow, or have two fight to the death. or eat them as part of some asian meal.


Toss my butt off a cliff before you do any of those things listed above to me.
Guess people dont think of it like that.

1:Food
2:Moblity
3:Fight champion

Todays dog's have alot goin' for them i guess.
(and Yes, i hate dogs, so i see nothing wrong with this)


:Edit: what would have been funny is if the soldier had interigated the pup just before tossin' it over.

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WHERE IS HE!?
WHERE IS OSAMA!?

TELL US NOW!
Were not getting anything from this one....

*toss*
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Okay enough is enough, they are stripping the videos from every sight imaginable, yet i can still find movies of PEOPLE being beheaded when the iraq war started.
Another reason all you "Animal" lovers can go take the same jump that pup did. Learn your species.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 05:14:28 PM
Our society has grown to this (Thanks liberals...)

Kill a human, get prison time and out in 7 years.

Steal his money...get 20.

Kill a puppy while in uniform...you make the evening news globally.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: trax1 on March 04, 2008, 05:17:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Our society has grown to this (Thanks liberals...)

Kill a human, get prison time and out in 7 years.

Steal his money...get 20.

Kill a puppy while in uniform...you make the evening news globally.
What does video of a soldier killing a puppy have to do with being liberal?  So does that mean conservatives are ok killing puppy's?  I don't care what you are, killing a puppy is just evil, but I'm sure that video is fake.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 05:19:53 PM
You're probably right. I'm sure the impact of liberal politics since the 1960's and convicts getting away with murder are not associated in any way.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: trax1 on March 04, 2008, 05:21:52 PM
I just don't see the link to killing puppy's.  I mean seriously, don't think that it's kinda an evil thing to do?
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Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 05:21:56 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You're probably right. I'm sure the impact of liberal politics since the 1960's and convicts getting away with murder are not associated in any way.
Ripsnort, the number of lynchings has gone down since the 1960s too, I believe.

Correlation equals causation, right?
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 05:35:54 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ripsnort, the number of lynchings has gone down since the 1960s too, I believe.

Correlation equals causation, right?
The Democrats are finally coming around thankfully. :aok
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: DYNAMITE on March 04, 2008, 05:43:05 PM
I just saw the video.... that was awful :confused:

What a bastard
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Charon on March 04, 2008, 05:43:41 PM
I imagine there are any number of Marines, including war hardened Marines, who would kick his bellybutton if they saw him pulling such a stunt.

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Another reason all you "Animal" lovers can go take the same jump that pup did. Learn your species.


The quality of humanity and empathy is what sets us apart form the other animals. Unfortunately so does cruelty for amusement's sake. If you find humor in this you're a ****head.

Charon
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: rpm on March 04, 2008, 05:56:12 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
I imagine there are any number of Marines, including war hardened Marines, who would kick his bellybutton if they saw him pulling such a stunt.
Naw, Ripsnort's cool with it so they must be Amerihaters.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 06:09:36 PM
Well, rpm, I'm not cool with it, nor am I cool with the press only covering the bad over there, when so much good is happening. Gee, I wonder why they don't cover the good things happening in Iraq. :rolleyes:

Here is a clue: Most in the press are bleeding liberals.

And don't tell me nothing good is happening. You have to dig to page 25 to find them, or know someone who just returned from there.

Could you image the press reporting on marines killing a puppy in 1945 on Okinawa? :rofl
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: DYNAMITE on March 04, 2008, 07:07:27 PM
Rip... if Youtube existed back then, you never know.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 07:15:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Could you image the press reporting on marines killing a puppy in 1945 on Okinawa? :rofl
Well, if the soldier filmed it, then attached it to the beginning of the Movietone News reel, I suppose they might...  

This guy DID post it to YouTube, it's one thing to hear about something happening, it's another to see it on video.  You...  Do understand the involvement video has on this whole thing, right?
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 04, 2008, 07:22:48 PM
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Originally posted by Charon
I imagine there are any number of Marines, including war hardened Marines, who would kick his bellybutton if they saw him pulling such a stunt.

 

The quality of humanity and empathy is what sets us apart form the other animals. Unfortunately so does cruelty for amusement's sake. If you find humor in this you're a ****head.

Charon


While i agree, i have yet to see a animal throw another animal off a cliff, or mush it thru hours of freezing cold, or eat it to keep alive, or have it pit its life against another for sport.

And no, it turned my stomic.
Far from humor, but it could be worse.

*closes his eyes and imagines all the cows that get there throats cut for beef*

Yeah, poor little puppy. :lol


For whatever its worth.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: trax1 on March 04, 2008, 07:43:35 PM
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th


*closes his eyes and imagines all the cows that get there throats cut for beef*

Yeah, poor little puppy. :lol


For whatever its worth.
You do understand the difference in killing a cow thats been raised for that purpose, and is being slaughtered for food, and killing a little puppy for a laugh don't you?
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 04, 2008, 08:26:20 PM
So your justifying the slaughter of hundreds of cows daily because (its what we made them for) vs. some guy throwing one dog off a high place?

Maby thats why he got the puppy in the first place.

Com'on, two wrongs dont make it right, but im sure it wont stop ither you or i from having a hamburger for dinner tonight.

And if you ask, would i rather have a hamburger made of beer, or puppy's, i would have to say ill try them bolth, and tell you how it was.
but i have yet to taste puppy. :cry


And the diffrence? yeah one makes you  $ the other makes some guy laugh, and then makes you feal bad for the puppy.
Who's laughing at the cows being slaughterd? the farmer and the dude packaging the meat.

Bling bling!

Rethinking, maby we should just throw his arse off a cliff, save us all the trouble, show the world we wont stand for this kind of abuse of puppys.
I wounder how many puppys got bombed in the start of the wars.

Lets go get bush. :)
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 04, 2008, 08:32:50 PM
looks like rpm ran away with his tail between his legs after my post.:rofl
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: cav58d on March 04, 2008, 08:48:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort

Could you image the press reporting on marines killing a puppy in 1945 on Okinawa? :rofl


The American people would be just as outraged in 1945.   Wearing a uniform does not give anyone a free pass to do this kind of crap.  

Some of you guys have gone off the deep end lately.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: cav58d on March 04, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
However Ripsnort, I will agree with you on the media and it's coverage of Iraq.  Their agenda was set long before this war started.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Slash27 on March 04, 2008, 09:02:54 PM
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
and Yes, i hate dogs,  


 What kind of ******* doesnt like dogs?
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: thrila on March 04, 2008, 09:21:56 PM
badkarma, it's pretty obvious you have an abnormal sense of morality if you believe it is ok to kill harm an animal for harms sake.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: JB73 on March 04, 2008, 09:24:00 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
What kind of ******* doesnt like dogs?
I don't like dogs. filthy, and I don't have opposable thunbs just to pick up the poo of an animal.

But I do not condone or would ever harm a dog, I just don't like them for me. If I want to care for something, get up at 5 am or it will poo on my floor, get home by 5 pm or it will get into my garbage, or anything similar I'll get some chick pregnant then at least the child will grow up.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Slash27 on March 04, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
But I do not condone or would ever harm a dog, I just don't like them for me. If I want to care for something, get up at 5 am or it will poo on my floor, get home by 5 pm or it will get into my garbage, or anything similar I'll get some chick pregnant then at least the child will grow up.


Not all dogs are like that.:D
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 11:29:36 PM
Here ya go, Rip:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334709,00.html
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: SIG220 on March 04, 2008, 11:30:16 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
What kind of ******* doesnt like dogs?



Perhaps someone who instead loves cats????


(http://www.funnycatpix.com/_pics/super_happy_cat.jpg)
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Russian on March 04, 2008, 11:38:03 PM
Looks fake.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=621_1204615429
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on March 04, 2008, 11:45:51 PM
if thats real I have some ocean front property in Montana to sell you.

Why exactly they decided to throw a stuffed puppy off a cliff I have no idea, but this whole thing could be being taken out of context of the situation.

Also could just be some guy whos not really a marine in the vid, trying to make our armed forces look bad.

Either way its definetly fake.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 11:49:06 PM
Well, it's really a marine, and he just got back from Iraq.  He's based in Hawaii, lives a couple miles from my family in Seattle, so there goes about half of your arguments, ones that you could have taken care of by reading some of the news coverage.

I know it's fashionable to bray 'faaaaaake!' anytime you see something on the internet, but make sure you do your homework.  It might be 'fake' in the sense that they threw a dead puppy or something and added sound effects, but even then it's still stupid.  Crap like this makes life awful hard for the folks over there.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on March 04, 2008, 11:55:13 PM
Theres no proof yet that the guy whose name was said in the video is actually in the video. If you read the article posted it makes that clear.

It is unlikely that someone would go through so much just to fake this, but it is possible.

BTW, watch the vid, you can easily tell that the dog isn't even dead, its a stuffed animal. Watch the legs when its thrown. They move out to the sides in a way that a real dogs could not, unless the dogs bones had been broken. Even then I doubt they would move the way they do.
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Post by: Chairboy on March 04, 2008, 11:59:07 PM
Ok, you're on record with a definitive statement that it's fake.  I'm still not sure, but I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand.  Unlike you, I have no doubt that there are dumb folks out there who do really dumb crap, and acknowledge that this guy might be one of them.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Vulcan on March 05, 2008, 12:11:07 AM
Meanwhile in not headline news....

http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4385517&page=1

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On Sunday morning a 25-year-old Syrian man beheaded his nephew at Al-Marhaba supermarket, Arab News reported. The man reportedly killed the child after an argument with his sister and brother-in-law.

"It happened so quickly. Before people could intervene, the man had cut more than half way through the child's neck," said Abu Muhammad, a grandfather in his mid-60s, told Arab News.



What I found interesting is on a NZ BBS the puppy incident provoked more posts than this incident. Sad really.
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Post by: Bluedog on March 05, 2008, 12:33:29 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
What kind of ******* doesnt like dogs?


Usually the kind that is scared of them.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: Pooh21 on March 05, 2008, 12:50:04 AM
What kind of ***** is scared of dogs?

Any ways its him, teh internets even found his Mom's Realty (http://washington.cutaboverealtyagents.com/showListing/id/435804/name/RanayeEMotari/index.html)  page.

I sure as heck am not ever gonna watch the video. Any kind of person who abuses animals deserves to rot in hell.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: crockett on March 05, 2008, 12:52:31 AM
That dude's profile was leaked for one of the social network sites several days ago. Was insane the amount of death threats people were posting. That and every other post was the dude's address along with his phone number.

One thing is for sure real or fake he will likely be paying for his stupidity for quite awhile. His family included.
Title: marine kills a puppy?
Post by: DrDea on March 05, 2008, 01:14:39 AM
Badkharma...I hope that moniker truly follows you through life.That worthless ****sucker needs to be thrown off a cliff himself.Like dogs or not ******s like that not only give our troops a bad name and liberals ammo to fire at them,but people like him need to be taken out and shot.