see i have been telling yall for years that Adonai is a perv no one listens geezzzzz
This has no place here
sadly I watched it, and i don't like that you dive from 10k or 11k to the agreed alt cap (giving you a 50-100mph speed advantage), and use external views frequently throughout the fight.
maybe my understanding of the alt restriction is wrong?
Appologise to communityWords
Sometimes I get a little to boistious, more or less choising this word because the other 3 and four letter words would simply get this post deleted by skuzzy. I am apologizing to Batfink and some others in community, I am not taking time to go down a list of people I ran into, but some people like myself need to eat humble pie and shut up at times. Those who know me, know I have never said I was better then anyone else. Regardless that unless you spoken to me on vox or flew by my side dont jump to conclude im an evil deminted person. I Have my game personality as everyone else does. Yes I am boistious and not first to admit that I will toot my horn mostly at the wrong times, either what you call a "whine" or simply my frustrations. I am competitive. As reference to this, alot of people say same old "oREo" comment. Unless you were in a squad with oDALLASo or myself, dont be first to judge him, Yes he went as far as voxing people and was typically annoying, but as a squad leader, I found him to be one of the smartest people i've ever seen, im sure quite a few will back him on that he was a good squad leader just not a good member of a community. And I am appologising because I am not going to end up as one of the black sheep of this good community over some petty garbage when we could be having a beer and talking about aces in 15 minutes from now. I do respect all members of community untill proven otherwise. Yes I've disrespected certain people, no excuse for it I know, simple taunting shouldn't be taken so harsh, otherwise just use a squelch function. However I offer this appology from me, Adonai in hoping some of you might not take this forum post as just an excuse to get away from the problems, but rather make amend for my mouth.
This has no place here
sadly I watched it, and i don't like that you dive from 10k or 11k to the agreed alt cap (giving you a 50-100mph speed advantage), and use external views frequently throughout the fight.
maybe my understanding of the alt restriction is wrong?
LOL nothing better than 2 skilless picker dweebs fighting
<---owns you both
we agreed on a Merge at 7k, not flight speed. He had every chance to use same tactic on me, which he used only at 7k to dive down.
See Rule #8
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Excellent!
One question:
Adonai you used there trackir...?
I see you are in a -1C in that screenie, if I were a betting man I'd bet big money you picked both BiPolar and Skyrock while they were busy with someone else. :)
Adonai your post makes me weep of laughter and pity
we agreed on a Merge at 7k, not flight speed. He had every chance to use same tactic on me, which he used only at 7k to dive down.
So let me get this straight...you're thumping your chest for winning a duel in which you had to cheat to win by going above the agreed altitude and then diving to the agreed altitude for the merge? Wow, so very sad. Says quite abit about your character though.
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Ack-Ack I've never seen you post anything legitable without insulting anyone period, says alot about your character also.What in the hell Ack-Ack has to do with your display of dweebery?
Ack-Ack have you ever posted anything that wasn't insulting someone in the forums? Be nice to see it <S>
Ack-Ack have you ever posted anything that wasn't insulting someone in the forums? Be nice to see it <S>
When dueling, the standard accepted practice (since the days of AirWarrior) for the altitude limit, is you never go above that limit prior to the first merge. Violating the agreed upon altitude limit prior to merging is, and always has been considered cheating.
Quote from: Adonai
"Appologise to community
Sometimes I get a little to boistious, more or less choising this word because the other 3 and four letter words would simply get this post deleted by skuzzy. I am apologizing to Batfink and some others in community, I am not taking time to go down a list of people I ran into, but some people like myself need to eat humble pie and shut up at times. Those who know me, know I have never said I was better then anyone else. Regardless that unless you spoken to me on vox or flew by my side dont jump to conclude im an evil deminted person. I Have my game personality as everyone else does. Yes I am boistious and not first to admit that I will toot my horn mostly at the wrong times, either what you call a "whine" or simply my frustrations. I am competitive. As reference to this, alot of people say same old "oREo" comment. Unless you were in a squad with oDALLASo or myself, dont be first to judge him, Yes he went as far as voxing people and was typically annoying, but as a squad leader, I found him to be one of the smartest people i've ever seen, im sure quite a few will back him on that he was a good squad leader just not a good member of a community. And I am appologising because I am not going to end up as one of the black sheep of this good community over some petty garbage when we could be having a beer and talking about aces in 15 minutes from now. I do respect all members of community untill proven otherwise. Yes I've disrespected certain people, no excuse for it I know, simple taunting shouldn't be taken so harsh, otherwise just use a squelch function. However I offer this appology from me, Adonai in hoping some of you might not take this forum post as just an excuse to get away from the problems, but rather make amend for my mouth." - Adonai
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I have to say that this new style of player like this Adonee or whatever the hell it's name is, is really making me rethink coming back to fly in AH. It's like dealing with a 12 yr old that runs around thumping their chest about how great they are all the time, when in reality, they are nothing more than a wet behind the ears low self esteem numbnut.
I think "perma-squelch" (TM) would go a long way in cleaning up the MA's and bringing the fun back .
Ack-Ack have you ever posted anything that wasn't insulting someone in the forums? Be nice to see it <S>Yes, he has....he was talking to HiTech at the time though.
When dueling, the standard accepted practice (since the days of AirWarrior) for the altitude limit, is you never go above that limit prior to the first merge. Violating the agreed upon altitude limit prior to merging is, and always has been considered cheating.
If you have more alt or E before the initial merge then you are CHEATING.
I've witnessed enough DA's that people generally agree before hand the rules to the fight, regardless of "standard accepted practice".
Everyone has their "rules" to DA and Ive never see a single player follow a "standard accepted practice" Ive seen people ask for no Ho on merge, others no HO shots period, even after merge, ive seen 7k Alt Cap even AFTER merge.
I believe if your going to DA you set the rules up before the fight to everyone is clear.
So when you said, "7K alt cap" and then you climbed to 10K in your Hurri MkI, what part of your own rules did you not understand?
When you duel someone for bragging rights it's a good idea to have a friend use CM mode to make sure the other one doesn't cheat that way. There are old timers that do it too, because they are losers.
I've witnessed enough DA's that people generally agree before hand the rules to the fight, regardless of "standard accepted practice".
Everyone has their "rules" to DA and Ive never see a single player follow a "standard accepted practice" Ive seen people ask for no Ho on merge, others no HO shots period, even after merge, ive seen 7k Alt Cap even AFTER merge.
I believe if your going to DA you set the rules up before the fight to everyone is clear.
Wasn't bragging rights for one thing, fact he was so busy insulting me in Main Arena while I was waiting in DA is point I was making.
If you have more alt or E before the initial merge then you are CHEATING.
I love it when threads like these do not go the way the original poster intended and exposes their dweebery. :aok
ack-ack
Adonai, what are you trying to get out of posting this and Da'ing the way you did?
The whole point of the DA is for a good 1v1 and to see who the better pilot is. I enjoy the thrill of the fight, win or lose. Violating the rules is not cool. I would be surprised if anyone wants to duel with you after reading this post.
however Ive never seen or heard these rules in every time ive been in the DA arena."a duel was a consensual fight between two people, with matched, usually deadly weapons in accordance with rules explicitly or implicitly agreed upon, over a point of honor"
These are the rules that many of my friends agree upon as standard.
Bragging Right Rules
One-versus-One Standard Bout Rules:
- If you challenge someone, he has the choice of the first round plane set.
What if you are facing a girl, do the same rules apply? :O
however Ive never seen or heard these rules in every time ive been in the DA arena.
These are the rules that many of my friends agree upon as standard.
Bragging Right Rules
One-versus-One Standard Bout Rules:
- If you challenge someone, he has the choice of the first round plane set.
- The fuel will be 25% unless otherwise stated as being a handicap for a particular contestant.
- If someone loses a wing, tail, or engine, the round is over.
- Only two guys to a dog fight.
- Only one dog fight at a time.
- The winner of a round has the choice of the next plane set.
- Both contestants must get a fresh plane before the next round.
- The bout winner will be best out of five rounds.
- Rounds must start Co Alt and Co E before the initial merge. This means no going above the agreed altitude before the initial merge in order to gain more E then your opponent, but you may dive under your opponent once you are in icon range.
- No Head-Ons on the initial merge.
- No rams.
- If you get more then 2K from your opponent while your plane’s nose is pointed away from him, you lose that round. If both contestants are nose away, that round is forfeit. This includes altitude.
- Any modifications of the Standard Bout Rules must be noted in text upon take-off of the first round, and both contestants must agree in text before the initial merge of the first round. This includes any fuel handicaps.
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Tell ya what Ad you beat me in DA i will quit game for good
best 3 out of 5
should i post that film from last night of you picking us?
... however Ive never seen or heard these rules in every time ive been in the DA arena.
Ya know if there was a post on "DA Rules" Would be nice to see, You can't bash someone for not knowing rules people say are "Old as Airwarriors" To those who flew then sure. Not those who only been in DA since October, and yet Ive never heard anyone mention them. I've spoken few times on 200 in DA asking setups and such.
"a duel was a consensual fight between two people, with matched, usually deadly weapons in accordance with rules explicitly or implicitly agreed upon, over a point of honor"
Bragging right duels in DA are no different...
Excuse me, but how am I supposed to get older and slow down my reflexes just so I don't have an advantage over an old man like you?????? That is just not fair. :furious
I love it when threads like these do not go the way the original poster intended and exposes their dweebery. :aok
ack-ack
man, that is harsh :rofl :lol
BiPolar would blow that Shawk wantabes' hairpiece off. I've flow with both of them, know their tactics and skill level. BiPolar 4 out of 5 :D
If you have more alt or E before the initial merge then you are CHEATING.
lol, everybody except AINEIS responded to this one.....i'd like to see the BiPoLaR vs. Adonai fight :)
Nope, it is only cheating if you do it after you agreed not to.
There are such things as no rules, no holds bared duels where both players agree that anything goes.
Also, rules need to be carefully stated or they can be open to interpretation. For instance calling the altitude of the merge, in plain language only states how high you must be at the merge, not before or after. If you mean that neither party can be above a certain altitude before the merge it is better to call it a ceiling and actually state and agree that it is a never to be exceeded altitude limit. You can't accuse someone of cheating unless you remove the possibility of misunderstandings, after all, it is only natural to seek every advantage within the rules in any sport or game.
Reference to standard rules doesn't work because you can't guarantee that everyone will know them and if I duel someone who won't agree the rules I consider it to be an anything goes engagement.
Proton
Nope, it is only cheating if you do it after you agreed not to.
There are such things as no rules, no holds bared duels where both players agree that anything goes.
Also, rules need to be carefully stated or they can be open to interpretation. For instance calling the altitude of the merge, in plain language only states how high you must be at the merge, not before or after. If you mean that neither party can be above a certain altitude before the merge it is better to call it a ceiling and actually state and agree that it is a never to be exceeded altitude limit. You can't accuse someone of cheating unless you remove the possibility of misunderstandings, after all, it is only natural to seek every advantage within the rules in any sport or game.
Reference to standard rules doesn't work because you can't guarantee that everyone will know them and if I duel someone who won't agree the rules I consider it to be an anything goes engagement.
Proton
How many shades since AW have you had so far?
This thread is priceless :rock
I've seen threads go badly for a poster before but this one is for the records....
Look ma, I cheat really well!!! I won a duel in which I purposefully went out of my way to gain an airspeed advantage AND I used outside views to boot!!! AND because i have no ability to filter my thoughts before i type on ch 200 or post...I made a permanent fool of myself to boot!!!
:salute
In reality, this thread really needs to die.
was just noting that everyone and their brother responded to the thread. I'm not saying he should reply.
Why should AINEIS reply?
As for BiPolar and Adonai in a fight, it would be like watching Mike Tyson take on a pre-schooler. Sure, it might be fun to watch at first but then it just becomes a slaughter after the first punch. BiPolar can actually fight, something Adonai hasn't learned quite yet to do.
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