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Title: P-47 D-11
Post by: DEAR98 on March 06, 2008, 06:25:54 PM
Just add wing drop tanks.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Motherland on March 06, 2008, 06:41:23 PM
Just add wing drop tanks.
Where is your historical documentation showing it was actually equipped with DT's? Or do you just want them?
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: DEAR98 on March 06, 2008, 06:42:50 PM
ok one sec
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: DEAR98 on March 06, 2008, 06:52:08 PM
http://www.scalemodelingbychris.com/graphics/model%20kits/26015.jpg
Call me crazzy but I think those are wing tanks.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: DEAR98 on March 06, 2008, 06:55:21 PM
sry wrong page http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/reviews/734/p47fs.jpg
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Gowan on March 06, 2008, 08:47:57 PM
no bubble, and those are tanks, i vote yes
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Stoney on March 07, 2008, 12:20:13 AM
P-47D-15 was the first equipped with wing pylons.  Seeing how we have the D-11, no dice.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on March 07, 2008, 12:40:17 AM
so you are saying these are not wing pylons on this P-47D-11-RE?  (Not sure is the RE part makes a difference.)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/651/p47catapultgw3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
caption from home.att.net/~historyzone/Seversky-Republic6.html says:
A 318th FG P-47D-11-RE runs up to full power as it prepares for a catapult launch from the deck of the
CVE Manila Bay off of Saipan. Note the artwork on the drop tank under the fuselage.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: angelsandair on March 07, 2008, 02:06:23 AM
so you are saying these are not wing pylons on this P-47D-11-RE?  (Not sure is the RE part makes a difference.)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/651/p47catapultgw3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
caption from home.att.net/~historyzone/Seversky-Republic6.html says:
A 318th FG P-47D-11-RE runs up to full power as it prepares for a catapult launch from the deck of the
CVE Manila Bay off of Saipan. Note the artwork on the drop tank under the fuselage.



WTF??? Is that taking off from a carrier!?!?!?!  :O
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Rino on March 07, 2008, 08:55:03 AM
     CVE means escort carrier.  They sometimes used carrier to deliver land based
aircraft to distant bases.  Launch only.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: rabbidrabbit on March 07, 2008, 09:17:57 AM

WTF??? Is that taking off from a carrier!?!?!?!  :O


YA!  JUST LIKE B-25'S!!
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: OOZ662 on March 07, 2008, 10:08:41 AM

YA!  JUST LIKE B-25'S!!

*sigh* Oh god...  :noid
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Stoney on March 07, 2008, 10:30:25 AM
so you are saying these are not wing pylons on this P-47D-11-RE?  (Not sure is the RE part makes a difference.)

Its either a mislabled caption, or a plane that had them retrofitted in the field, because the D-11 left the factory without wing pylons.  I don't know if they could retrofit the wing pylons on the older models or not.  There was a lot of plumbing and some structure added to support those.  Its probably just a typo on the caption.  By the time Saipan rolled around, most of the squadrons were using D-22/23's.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Krusty on March 07, 2008, 11:00:15 AM
From what I've read (on this forum and other places) as the newer models came out for early 47s, those in-field were updated to the new standard. So they may have left the factory as a D-11, but if fully upgraded, uprated, whatever, they would be more equivelant to 47d22s or whatever (I'm just making up an example here).

We've got a stock example of a 47d11, not an upgraded.


You might want to just ask for a D22, but then we have an almost identical D25, so just fly that, IMO.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: beau32 on March 07, 2008, 01:38:58 PM
http://www.368thfightergroup.com/

A good P-47 website. Also if u check out the Gun Cam section it has alot of good videos.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Widewing on March 07, 2008, 01:40:43 PM
Its either a mislabled caption, or a plane that had them retrofitted in the field, because the D-11 left the factory without wing pylons.  I don't know if they could retrofit the wing pylons on the older models or not.  There was a lot of plumbing and some structure added to support those.  Its probably just a typo on the caption.  By the time Saipan rolled around, most of the squadrons were using D-22/23's.

Just have to check the tail number... 275308 (42-75308). It's a P-47D-11 of the 73rd FS. This squadron had a mix of P-47s of various blocks. Almost every P-47D (prior to the D-15) shipped to the Pacific was retrofitted with the wing pylon kits. I have photos of D-2-REs with the retrofit. Lockheed did many of the conversions.

Here's another 73rd Jug. This one is a P-47D-10-RA.
(http://home.att.net/~ww2aviation/Saipan-Jugs.jpg)

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Stoney on March 07, 2008, 07:17:57 PM
Just have to check the tail number... 275308 (42-75308). It's a P-47D-11 of the 73rd FS. This squadron had a mix of P-47s of various blocks. Almost every P-47D (prior to the D-15) shipped to the Pacific was retrofitted with the wing pylon kits. I have photos of D-2-REs with the retrofit. Lockheed did many of the conversions.

My regards,

Widewing

Thanks for the clarification
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: DEAR98 on March 08, 2008, 10:11:53 AM
so is it on or off?
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Widewing on March 08, 2008, 11:47:54 AM
so is it on or off?

Unless HTC changes its long-standing policy, wing pylons would not be added.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Stoney on March 08, 2008, 07:04:51 PM
Best thing to hope for is a P-47D-23 to be added the next time the Jugs are updated.  Don't hold your breath though, because it will be a while.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Odee on March 08, 2008, 07:22:40 PM
 :O  My God, Widewing!  That' P-47 is a wanabe Navy plane, taking off that carrier so!
 :aok

Most wing hard points were field modifications on nearly all our first run combat planes.  F4U's, P-38's, Ponies and so on were upgraded in field by some pretty ingenious ground crews during the war.
Title: Re: P-47 D-11
Post by: Rebel on March 09, 2008, 09:02:22 AM
Pacific Thunderbolts of all models were retrofitted with wet pylons before they shipped out due to the long ranges involved down there.

Instead of being shipped over covered and ready for assembly like the ETO, the PTO had all planes on carriers, and launched them when close to the base of ops. 

In fact, a carrier with a load of F8F Bearcats was on it's way to Iwo (I think) when the war ended.

If you want wing pylons on a Razorback, I say we drop a formal request for the P-47D-23. 

Paddle blades, able to go to deep into Germany, bomb and rocket capable- it's the Super Razorback. 

Faster climbing, faster accelerating, faster top speed....yes please  :aok