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Title: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: aenigma on March 07, 2008, 04:36:31 PM
Hello all >S<,

I thought of listing my wish list and despite some stuff on it may be a repeat on someone else's wish list, This is what I like to see.

American planes:

PB2Y Coronado
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV
C54 Skymaster
C46 Commando
SB2C Helldiver
P61 Black Widow
A26 Invader
B29 Superfortress


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden
G8n Renzan
Ki-100
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))
MXY7 Ohka

Russian Planes:

Tupolev TB-3
IL-10

British Planes:

Beaufort
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X
Halifax MK.III
Gloster Meteor MK.III

German Planes:

HS.123
JU87-G1
HE-111
HE-162
HE-219
FW-200

Italian Planes:

G.55
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82


French Planes:

D.520
M.S.406


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).
Submarines
Depth Charges to counter Subs
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)
Large train depots
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)

World War 1 and Korea Arenas.

What about a search function prior to entering any arena. I know about the dot command to look for Squadron mates but something more "live" for searching anyone.

Some say "Nukes" but seriously, why? If HTC decides to introduce Nukes, then use them as the highest perk points and once dropped, the town/base destroyed is not able to be captured (you lose all perks). Once base recovers, only the side who owns the area can reuse it. I say no to Nukes.

Yes, I agree this is a Combat Flight Simulation (C.F.S.) but a large segment of the gamers enjoy the GV and CV portions of the game. When I mentioned more CV's, it would be cool to see large sea battles among CV groups with Cruiser and Battleships among the firepower. Imagine 16 and 18 inch guns raining on your parade. Then add in Subs into the battle who must avoid Depth Charges (manual or Automatic like Ack).



Now some of you will be "WTF?" or cap on my ideas. Remember, this is just a wish list and my ideas come from playing the game long enough to know what would make it more challenging.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Motherland on March 07, 2008, 04:44:42 PM
Why the heck would you want an Fw200?
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ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)
BTW, the reason we don't have Swastika's on the tails of German aircraft is because the Swastika is illegal in Germany. And, without German players, Lusche wouldnt be able to give us any of his pretty charts!
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Saxman on March 07, 2008, 04:52:53 PM
Yep. I disagree with the history white-washing too, but when you market to an international audience you're sorta stuck when it comes to other nations' laws.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: FrodeMk3 on March 07, 2008, 05:03:45 PM
Yep. I disagree with the history white-washing too, but when you market to an international audience you're sorta stuck when it comes to other nations' laws.

To add, I believe that more than a few games outside of AH are hamstrung by this as well. If you play the "Blitzkrieg" series of RTS games, They substitute a version of the old Imperial German Iron cross for the Nazi Swastika.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: aenigma on March 07, 2008, 05:17:32 PM
re:Why the heck would you want an Fw200?

Variety which can bomb and transport troops. I think it is a good looking bird as well.

As for the Markings on aircraft. Thank you for bringing to light about international laws. In no way would I want to see our international gamers be banned over a symbol.

Thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 07, 2008, 07:04:44 PM
Why the heck would you want an Fw200?BTW, the reason we don't have Swastika's on the tails of German aircraft is because the Swastika is illegal in Germany. And, without German players, Lusche wouldnt be able to give us any of his pretty charts!


I wonder if it is still illegal to show blood in games sold in Germany.  I remember when Carmegeddon had to change the blood from red to green and make the people aliens instead of human because of German laws.

ack-ack
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Saxman on March 07, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
I thought that was the British release?
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Gowan on March 07, 2008, 11:19:25 PM
American planes:

PB2Y Coronado- Whats that?
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV-huh?
C54 Skymaster-?
C46 Commando-ok... never heard of that one...
SB2C Helldiver-Only if the bombload is better than any fighter that can lift off a carrier
P61 Black Widow-its a NIGHT FIGHTER, and last time i checked, THERE IS NO NIGHT
A26 Invader-hell, if it has A- in front of the name, it might be fun
B29 Superfortress-n00k1!!!!1!!one!11!!!qQ!!!


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden-?
G8n Renzan-??
Ki-100-???
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))-hell, i could use another tank buster
MXY7 Ohka-no baka bomb, the reason why kamikaze into stuff doesnt hurt them is because you could keep upping them, if this was in, i would want that if you used it, you couldnt fly for 24 hours

Russian Planes:

Tupolev TB-3
IL-10

British Planes:

Beaufort--Look at the halifax except the lancaster part
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X--I sorta want this one
Halifax MK.III-we need heavies from other countries first, would like in a couple years though, besides the Lancaster is already a lot like it
Gloster Meteor MK.III--NO, no more jet dweebs flying around (i sorta have a prop fetish)

German Planes:

HS.123--?
JU87-G1--if i see another thread with this in it im gonna kill the next squeeker i see
HE-111--WE NEED THIS TO BE THE NEXT PLANE OUT (hopefully in the next upcomming patch
HE-162--?
HE-219--?
FW-200--?

Italian Planes:

G.55-sure, why not
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82-?


French Planes:

D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day)
M.S.406-look up


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).--im up for it, but not soon though
Submarines--NO NO NO NO NO
Depth Charges to counter Subs--look up
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)THIS IS PLANES!!! i honestly dont know why tanks are here in the first place, besides, would a pilot have a mg in his cockpit? HELL NO
Large train depots--Sure, why not
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.--yay! more targets
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)--Cant, its illegal to have the swastika in germany, and we have a good amount of mates there

World War 1 and Korea Arenas.---- NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS MADNESS!!! THIS IS WWII!!! (or sparta, sometimes i cant really tell)

What about a search function prior to entering any arena. I know about the dot command to look for Squadron mates but something more "live" for searching anyone.

Some say "Nukes" but seriously, why? If HTC decides to introduce Nukes, then use them as the highest perk points and once dropped, the town/base destroyed is not able to be captured (you lose all perks). Once base recovers, only the side who owns the area can reuse it. I say no to Nukes.---good boy! you actually made an obvious statement!

Yes, I agree this is a Combat Flight Simulation (C.F.S.) but a large segment of the gamers enjoy the GV and CV portions of the game. When I mentioned more CV's, it would be cool to see large sea battles among CV groups with Cruiser and Battleships among the firepower. Imagine 16 and 18 inch guns raining on your parade. Then add in Subs into the battle who must avoid Depth Charges (manual or Automatic like Ack).---NO SUBS RAWR



Now some of you will be "WTF?" or cap on my ideas. Remember, this is just a wish list and my ideas come from playing the game long enough to know what would make it more challenging.---I know this is a wishlist, but im still gonna screw it over...
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Lusche on March 07, 2008, 11:26:17 PM

I wonder if it is still illegal to show blood in games sold in Germany.  I remember when Carmegeddon had to change the blood from red to green and make the people aliens instead of human because of German laws.

ack-ack

I'm not perfectly up to date on exact details, but  years ago games like Rainbow Six had to be modified in some very rediculous ways - no blood on the floor, and the dead bodies disappeared after a few moments. At that time, the game would have not been totally banned, but would not have been allowed to be sold to minors. That would basically had killed all sales, as in that case you aren't allowed to advertise for it anymore.
Luckily we are still able to play Unreal, COD & Battlefield, despite there were some serious initiatives to ban ALL kinds of so called "killer games". But there is currently some legislation pending in that regards. But probably more a topic for Oclub than wishlist ;)
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 07, 2008, 11:57:37 PM
More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).
Submarines
Depth Charges to counter Subs
...I want real water before "subs" and "depth charges", both of which would turn this Air Combat Simulator into Naval Simulator, and none of us want that now do we?
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Saxman on March 08, 2008, 01:19:08 AM
Gowan,

Think I can help you out, plus some of my own comments:

PB2Y Coronado- Whats that? Large flying boat by Consolidated. I'd rather see the PBY Catalina as she was much more widely used. Maybe the PBM Mars
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV-huh? Light bomber/attack plane built for the RAF by Martin
C54 Skymaster-? 4-engine cargo plane, conversion of the DC-4. Basically a larger Goon.
C46 Commando-ok... never heard of that one... Another US cargo plane, by Curtiss. 2x the cargo capacity of the C-47
SB2C Helldiver-Only if the bombload is better than any fighter that can lift off a carrier It's not, though later marks had 20mm cannon which of the Allied carrier-borne rides only the Seafire and F4U-1C have that armament, however she still carried no better ordinance load than the late-war American blue iron. Her bomb-load IS better than the SBD, but while the Dauntless was a sweet-handling aircraft, the Helldiver was a dog to fly. Has value in scenarios, however.
P61 Black Widow-its a NIGHT FIGHTER, and last time i checked, THERE IS NO NIGHT So? LOTS of firepower and good ordinance loadout. Besides, P-61s flew about as many daylight missions as night.
A26 Invader-hell, if it has A- in front of the name, it might be fun Add it and perk it
B29 Superfortress-n00k1!!!!1!!one!11!!!qQ!!! B-29 with NO nuke would be a nice addition, and definitely a worthwhile perk bomber


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden-? Late-war interceptor.
G8n Renzan-?? Prototype only. Never saw service
Ki-100-??? Think the Tony with a Radial engine
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))-hell, i could use another tank buster Only 22 production-models built. Not likely.
MXY7 Ohka-no baka bomb, the reason why kamikaze into stuff doesnt hurt them is because you could keep upping them, if this was in, i would want that if you used it, you couldnt fly for 24 hours Agreed. Ghey!

British Planes:

Beaufort--Look at the halifax except the lancaster part Actually, the Beaufort is an attack aircraft/torpedo plane. Very similar in size and design to the Beaufighter (in fact, the Beaufighter was develped FROM the Beaufort
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X--I sorta want this one
Halifax MK.III-we need heavies from other countries first, would like in a couple years though, besides the Lancaster is already a lot like it
Gloster Meteor MK.III--NO, no more jet dweebs flying around (i sorta have a prop fetish) Agreed. Actually, I want them to take the jets/rockets we ALREADY have OUT.

German Planes:

HS.123--? Biplane divebomber/attack bomber
JU87-G1--if i see another thread with this in it im gonna kill the next squeeker i see
HE-111--WE NEED THIS TO BE THE NEXT PLANE OUT (hopefully in the next upcomming patch
HE-162--? Small-production/prototype jet. Saw combat but in limited numbers. See my own comment for the Meteor
HE-219--? German night-fighter
FW-200--? German 4-engine bomber

Italian Planes:

G.55-sure, why not
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82-? Trimotor bomber and transport. Looks like it'd be an aerial equivalent of the new German GV we're getting: Options to carry troops or supplies, OR ordinance, but not both.


French Planes:

D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day) So? They saw service, and would be invaluable for scenarios for the Battle of France
M.S.406-look up You too


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).--im up for it, but not soon though Actually, I'd like to see bombardment groups separated from the CV. No fleet carrier, which is what we have, would have gotten anywhere NEAR gun range of an enemy warship, even a CRUISER, if they could help it. The CV Task Group duels we get in the Mains are just silly. Give the CV some destroyers, make he capable of launching aircraft ONLY, and take the cruiser out and create an all-guns TG type around THAT which has the capability of spawning LVTs.
Submarines--NO NO NO NO NO HTC already wants to do this, IIRC
Depth Charges to counter Subs--look up
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)THIS IS PLANES!!! i honestly dont know why tanks are here in the first place, besides, would a pilot have a mg in his cockpit? HELL NO Agreed, but variation for ground troops would be nice
Large train depots--Sure, why not
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.--yay! more targets We already HAVE "City" objects
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)--Cant, its illegal to have the swastika in germany, and we have a good amount of mates there This was discussed already
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: RATTFINK on March 08, 2008, 01:07:35 PM
Gowan,

Think I can help you out, plus some of my own comments:

PB2Y Coronado- Whats that? Large flying boat by Consolidated. I'd rather see the PBY Catalina as she was much more widely used. Maybe the PBM Mars
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV-huh? Light bomber/attack plane built for the RAF by Martin
C54 Skymaster-? 4-engine cargo plane, conversion of the DC-4. Basically a larger Goon.
C46 Commando-ok... never heard of that one... Another US cargo plane, by Curtiss. 2x the cargo capacity of the C-47
SB2C Helldiver-Only if the bombload is better than any fighter that can lift off a carrier It's not, though later marks had 20mm cannon which of the Allied carrier-borne rides only the Seafire and F4U-1C have that armament, however she still carried no better ordinance load than the late-war American blue iron. Her bomb-load IS better than the SBD, but while the Dauntless was a sweet-handling aircraft, the Helldiver was a dog to fly. Has value in scenarios, however.
P61 Black Widow-its a NIGHT FIGHTER, and last time i checked, THERE IS NO NIGHT So? LOTS of firepower and good ordinance loadout. Besides, P-61s flew about as many daylight missions as night.
A26 Invader-hell, if it has A- in front of the name, it might be fun Add it and perk it
B29 Superfortress-n00k1!!!!1!!one!11!!!qQ!!! B-29 with NO nuke would be a nice addition, and definitely a worthwhile perk bomber


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden-? Late-war interceptor.
G8n Renzan-?? Prototype only. Never saw service
Ki-100-??? Think the Tony with a Radial engine
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))-hell, i could use another tank buster Only 22 production-models built. Not likely.
MXY7 Ohka-no baka bomb, the reason why kamikaze into stuff doesnt hurt them is because you could keep upping them, if this was in, i would want that if you used it, you couldnt fly for 24 hours Agreed. Ghey!

British Planes:

Beaufort--Look at the halifax except the lancaster part Actually, the Beaufort is an attack aircraft/torpedo plane. Very similar in size and design to the Beaufighter (in fact, the Beaufighter was develped FROM the Beaufort
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X--I sorta want this one
Halifax MK.III-we need heavies from other countries first, would like in a couple years though, besides the Lancaster is already a lot like it
Gloster Meteor MK.III--NO, no more jet dweebs flying around (i sorta have a prop fetish) Agreed. Actually, I want them to take the jets/rockets we ALREADY have OUT.

German Planes:

HS.123--? Biplane divebomber/attack bomber
JU87-G1--if i see another thread with this in it im gonna kill the next squeeker i see
HE-111--WE NEED THIS TO BE THE NEXT PLANE OUT (hopefully in the next upcomming patch
HE-162--? Small-production/prototype jet. Saw combat but in limited numbers. See my own comment for the Meteor
HE-219--? German night-fighter
FW-200--? German 4-engine bomber

Italian Planes:

G.55-sure, why not
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82-? Trimotor bomber and transport. Looks like it'd be an aerial equivalent of the new German GV we're getting: Options to carry troops or supplies, OR ordinance, but not both.


French Planes:

D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day) So? They saw service, and would be invaluable for scenarios for the Battle of France
M.S.406-look up You too


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).--im up for it, but not soon though Actually, I'd like to see bombardment groups separated from the CV. No fleet carrier, which is what we have, would have gotten anywhere NEAR gun range of an enemy warship, even a CRUISER, if they could help it. The CV Task Group duels we get in the Mains are just silly. Give the CV some destroyers, make he capable of launching aircraft ONLY, and take the cruiser out and create an all-guns TG type around THAT which has the capability of spawning LVTs.
Submarines--NO NO NO NO NO HTC already wants to do this, IIRC
Depth Charges to counter Subs--look up
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)THIS IS PLANES!!! i honestly dont know why tanks are here in the first place, besides, would a pilot have a mg in his cockpit? HELL NO Agreed, but variation for ground troops would be nice
Large train depots--Sure, why not
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.--yay! more targets We already HAVE "City" objects
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)--Cant, its illegal to have the swastika in germany, and we have a good amount of mates there This was discussed already


^ ^ ^ What SaX said ^ ^ ^
 :rofl            :rofl            :rofl


Also, the Brewster would be nice.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Gowan on March 08, 2008, 01:19:18 PM
thx alot saxman ^_^
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Motherland on March 08, 2008, 01:53:56 PM
The thing I find ironic about this list is that you have 2 transports from not only the side that already has a transport, but the country that that transport belongs to- and on your list, there is no Ju52/3M, which was not only the German equivelent to the C47, but the German equivelent to the DC3 itself, in the civilian role.

The thing that irks me most about the AH planeset is the lack of Russian aircraft. The VVS was one of the largest and most technologically advanced airforces of WWII-and one of the most under-represented in AH. At the very least, we need the Yak series to be fleshed out with a number of versions similar to what we have with the 109 and Spitfire. The Yakovlev 1/7/9/3 series were the most produced fighters ever, with over 35,000 aircraft made-only beat out by the Il-2 for the most prolific overall aircraft-and this crowning acheivement of Soviet industry is represented by two latewar aircraft. That, IMO, is one of the silliest things about our current planeset.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: FrodeMk3 on March 08, 2008, 04:49:19 PM
 The Blenheim's played a large part in RAF stike roles in '39-'42, serving in france, the BoB, and in the MTO.

I was suprised the Blenheim wasn't on those lists.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: aenigma on March 08, 2008, 04:49:41 PM
First of all, Thanks to all who commented even the "dweeb" who does not know his WW2 planes. Go to the library and check out some books.

Motherland: "The thing I find ironic about this list is that you have 2 transports from not only the side that already has a transport, but the country that that transport belongs to- and on your list, there is no Ju52/3M, which was not only the German equivelent to the C47, but the German equivelent to the DC3 itself, in the civilian role."

I actually overlooked the JU52 by accident but listed an italian S.M.82 which was a similar multi-roll aircraft. I agree, JU52 would be a good aircraft to have. I even thought about th ME.323 D-1 but opt for the FW-200 which was a bomber but later converted to transport duty.

I could have made my list longer but decided to cut the French/Italian/Russian list short. Leave that to someone else to post.


As for jets or limited number of aircraft in the War. Just perk up the points to limit the use in the arena. Just an idea that could restrict the numbers. I came very close to killing a 262 last night but a FW-190 rescued his butt but I do like the challenge of a P51 vs. ME262.

Good to see my wish list for the most part has been a positive conversation and debate.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: aenigma on March 08, 2008, 05:10:47 PM
Frode: "Saxman, I believe that the Beaufighter was in fact, developed from the Blenheim,  not the Beaufort. As a matter of fact, the Blenheim's played a large part in RAF stike roles in '39-'42, serving in france, the BoB, and in the MTO.

I was suprised the Blenheim wasn't on those lists."

5,500 Blenheims were built in GB and Canada but were not exceptional combat planes. Despite several variants they were eventually replaced by Bostons and Mosquitoes. " By the end of 1940 it had become obsolete in Europe having been replaced largely by Douglas Bostons and later by de Havilland Mosquitoes.  However, the Blenheim still served as a frontline bomber in North Africa, the Mediterranean and the Far East well into 1943."

They could still be of use in AH.

Beaufighter was like that of the Beaufort in the empennage, the wingsm and the rear part of the fuselage. Forward part of the plane was completely different.



Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Gowan on March 08, 2008, 08:29:05 PM
First of all, Thanks to all who commented even the "dweeb" who does not know his WW2 planes. Go to the library and check out some books.

you mean me??

btw, i had inherited ALOT of books from my great grandpa, who fought in WWII, all about WWII aircraft, but before i got to read even 5% of them, my house was broken into and the collection poofed
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Karnak on March 08, 2008, 08:51:06 PM
I see:  gobs of US superplanes and a few crumbs for the other sets.


Gee, we haven't seen this before.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Motherland on March 08, 2008, 08:55:23 PM
I see:  gobs of US superplanes and a few crumbs for the other sets.


Gee, we haven't seen this before.
Surprised the P80 wasnt on there.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: ALLEN86 on March 09, 2008, 12:47:23 AM


D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day)




Are you stupid???? Canada and Austrailia were in the war from day one, in september of 39not december of 41, and while the americans(and im not trying to start a big deal here) built up their forces, the other allies continued to fight.

also, the hurricane, mosquito, lancaster and plenty others where all built in canada

AND type dieppe in your google bar, the canadians were the "trial run" for the normandy invasions

perhaps know what you are talking about before you speak of it?
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: 442w30 on March 09, 2008, 12:23:18 PM
If Rattfink is correct about HTC wanting to do Subs, then we will need some multi-role aircraft that dropped depth charges and had other maritime roles. 

If done correctly Subs could be a blast.  With subs come DD, DE, Corvettes, and other sub chasers.  If modeled well, it would be a blast (for some) to play hide and seek in a Type VII u-boat or Gato class sub against various surface platforms. Conning tower variations would exist for the U-boats to account for various "wintergarten" configurations.  I'd like to hear more about this if it is true that they want to do it.  To be honest, I'd play it if it were a different game than AH all together.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: SgtPappy on March 09, 2008, 12:30:54 PM
Thanks Allen... Gowan would've upset a LOT of veterans over here.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Motherland on March 09, 2008, 12:38:00 PM
Are you stupid???? Canada and Austrailia were in the war from day one, in september of 39not december of 41, and while the americans(and im not trying to start a big deal here) built up their forces, the other allies continued to fight.

also, the hurricane, mosquito, lancaster and plenty others where all built in canada

AND type dieppe in your google bar, the canadians were the "trial run" for the normandy invasions

perhaps know what you are talking about before you speak of it?
Are you kidding me? Everyone knows the U.S. singlehandedly won World War II! Canada, Britain and France were just there for moral support. And Russia doesn't count, those stupid commies!
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: ALLEN86 on March 09, 2008, 02:17:17 PM
Are you kidding me? Everyone knows the U.S. singlehandedly won World War II! Canada, Britain and France were just there for moral support. And Russia doesn't count, those stupid commies!

maybe everyone in america, as you guys tend to boast your own BS and forget that of which others have done.....and im not speaking for all of you, just the few like this charactor. but anyway. continue your sheltered belief, hopefully one day you'll pick up a history book. Oh and lets not forget, before pearl harbour, the usa helped the germans, repaired warships ect, good job!
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: BlauK on March 09, 2008, 02:26:52 PM
I'm pretty sure Motherland only forgot to add a sarcastic smiley ;) 

ps. P-51 won teh war
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Bronk on March 09, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
I'm pretty sure Motherland only forgot to add a sarcastic smiley ;) 

ps. P-51 won teh war WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Fixed  :D
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Motherland on March 09, 2008, 03:12:10 PM
maybe everyone in america, as you guys tend to boast your own BS and forget that of which others have done.....and im not speaking for all of you, just the few like this charactor. but anyway. continue your sheltered belief, hopefully one day you'll pick up a history book. Oh and lets not forget, before pearl harbour, the usa helped the germans, repaired warships ect, good job!
Hook, line and sinker!
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Yossarian on March 09, 2008, 03:37:23 PM
Well, methinks that the list looks good, but I would like to see a few more French/Russian/Italian planes in it.

The only thing I don't support is the World War I/Korean War arenas.  I don't think this would add anything positive to AH.

Anyway, I'm pleased to say that I have formed the opinion that Gowan is not only a retard, but a lazy, racist duck (<-- I couldn't think of anything more suitable to say).  I just hope that someday, he reads a history book dealing with France's very significant role during the war.  In the meantime, doing a search on Google for "the French World War II resistance" might be helpful.

Motherland, whatever you meant "Hook, line and sinker!" about, it was obviously too subtle for the rest of us.  Please, try again.

And Saxman- Wtg!!  :aok

<S>

Yossarian

EDIT: I almost forgot the PBY!! I love that plane!  :D :D
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: Motherland on March 09, 2008, 03:52:38 PM
Motherland, whatever you meant "Hook, line and sinker!" about, it was obviously too subtle for the rest of us.  Please, try again.


The sad thing is, Im starting to think that is true.
Title: Re: More Planes and Game Play Wishlist
Post by: aenigma on March 09, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
Gowan- I was just teasin' since your signature "Dweeb this. Dweeb that.." but you do need to pick up a book and do some research. Heck, watch History Channel.

Now, let us not get into a "who did what in WW2" even though it can be educational for some. Keep to the topic. Yes, so what USA helped Germany with goods, we helped Japan with goods as well....What good did it do any of those two at the end?

I agree with ALL about more French, Italian, Russian, and others so no need to "I see:  gobs of US superplanes and a few crumbs for the other sets. Gee, we haven't seen this before." Do not like it, make your own list. Like I stated, I could have gone bananas on my list but I decided to cut back. Heck, let me mail HTC my books with a note "Here is my wish list."

My opinion about WW1 and Korea. In Air Warrior, WW1 was actually a lot of fun and change of pace from the usual. The Korean arena had probably the least amount of flyer's but dedicated jet pilots made it worth the time. My thinking for Korea comes from Targetware with its decent graphics and sound, has made it pretty cool to test one's dogfight ability in jets.

HTC has a hit on their hands which seems to be turning into an all around type war game. You all have seen the dedicated GV'ers that would warrant another list dedicated to vehicles only. Once again, I will leave that to another simmer to post. If not, maybe I will crank one out to share my thoughts.