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Title: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Halo on March 07, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
Seriously, any chance of a special Aces High arena or version for Sony Playstation 3? 

In searching for the best Blu-ray player for the money, I was surprised to see many recommendations for the Sony Playstation 3.  Testimonies were so complimentary I bought a 40-gig version to match with my 1080i 42-inch rear projection HDTV.   

It's fabulous.  Not only Blue-ray disks, but all older CDs -- commercial and homemade, movie and still photo -- look better than ever, and connected with only component cables (my best connection is DVI but no Playstation cable uses that, as far as I know; HDMI is best and available, but my TV is four years old and doesn't have HDMI 1020P). 

Couldn't resist trying a couple games, Warhawk and Call of Duty 4.  Talk about immersion!  What fun.  Stunning sweep, graphics, and sound. 

Seems as if Aces High could make a ton of money and greatly increase its sphere of influence if it could add an arena or maybe several or even a separate version for access via the Sony Playstation 3 (and maybe the other main game devices too, e.g., XBox 360 and Wii). 

Of course the Playstation 3 controller and the Playstation 3 are arcadish.  So what?  They're FUN. 

Imagine Aces High quality and authenticity EASILY playable and accessible on big-screen HDTVs via popular state of the art devices like the Sony Playstation 3.  Seems to be lots of win-win for everyone.

At minimum, seems like a good idea to do something to make Aces High easily playable on large screen home entertainment units.  That could mean a small player and wireless controllers (yes, like Sony Playstation 3).  Some Aces High players have hooked their computers up to their large screen TVs, but many of us are too non-machine-oriented or lazy to try that. 

There's also a great corresponding market for a wireless joystick that would more accurately control WWII planes on Playstation 3 and similar brands. 

Well?  How many of you would be interested in something like this?  If you think it's not a good idea, say so.  If you like it, say so.  Either way, let's give Aces High management an early focus group indication of whether such a development might be worthwhile for Aces High as well as us existing Aces High players and customers.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Motherland on March 07, 2008, 10:45:48 PM
I dont think the controller would have enough buttons.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Gowan on March 07, 2008, 10:56:36 PM
you know how ace combat 6 for xbox360 comes with a joystick? well, i know this game is far more realistic, if aces was made into a game for ANY system (mabey NES, lol) you could add more controls, including pedals, throttle/rpm control, trim controls, and the sort. It would be GREAT for combat tour (two weeks baby!  :noid)  and probably online play as well (in the sense of some are using console, others compy), since im pretty sure that they are doing that with some first person shooters in the near future, but the one thing im afraid of is the SUPER FLOOD of squeekers coming in with it, think they are all cool by saying "roger" and "10-4" instead of "yes" or "ok", and other dumb watermelon like that....

*goes to the hardware store to by a WHOLELOTTA more mouse traps to stop the squeeking*
 :D




my $34.02 (but without the $34)
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Squire on March 07, 2008, 11:15:11 PM
How many buttons do need to roll an LA-7 in auto takeoff and strafe a field?  ;)
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Masherbrum on March 07, 2008, 11:27:48 PM
No more squeakers are needed.   
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Rolex on March 08, 2008, 02:29:58 AM
Never mind.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 08, 2008, 02:37:49 AM
Find a way to set all the trim, flaps, throttle, pitch, roll, fuel, secondary weapons, views, gear, ect. ect. on a PS3 controller, you let me know.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: mipoikel on March 08, 2008, 02:49:11 AM
There is a keyboard for PS3.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3616&cl=us,en
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Yossarian on March 08, 2008, 03:15:01 AM
Halo, I think this idea, from teenager's perspective, makes good sense.  However, if you look at the "About Us" section of HTC's website, (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frameset1.html?about.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frameset1.html?about.html)), they say
Quote
our goal is to keep the company small.  We know that with a singular focus and an experienced cohesive team that enjoys its work, the production, service, support, and overall level of satisfaction will be unmatched.
.

I don't if the above is at all accurate, but it seems to me that giving AHII a PS3 capability, and the above quote, would contradict each other.

Plus, this would lead to many more so-called "squeakers" coming to the game, and perhaps adding a more immersive atmosphere, whilst ruining the so-called "community atmosphere(?)".  Whilst many older/more experienced players complain at the numbers and tactics of these "squeakers/dweebs", let's face it - overall, this is a pretty good group of people we've got here.

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: OOZ662 on March 08, 2008, 04:46:25 AM
The console systems use a different code base (or something :D) than the PCs. You can easily see that when you try to emulate them. Emulating the PS1/N64 generation of consoles is still at the skipped-frames at 25FPS stage on purpose-built gaming machines.

Basically, the game would probably need to be recoded to work on each of the systems, hence the massive production staff on any game...especially today.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Vipper65 on March 08, 2008, 05:17:19 AM
I've got everything I need right here on my PC why would I want PS3?
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Ghosth on March 08, 2008, 06:28:18 AM
Thanks, but em no thanks.

Get entirely too many 11  yr old squeekers now asking how to start the plane.
Add an entirely different interface and you just doubled my workload. And you just doubled what I have to know to effectively help people. 
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: BBBB on March 08, 2008, 06:47:39 AM
My buddy just installed Fedora Linux on his PS3. I don't know much about how it all works, but it seems to me that if you can install Linux on a PS3 then you should be able to install AHII. The PS3 would have no problem with running AHII graphics wise.

 A video of Linux on the PS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXcuhJkwx4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC5BEof-jd8&feature=related
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: redman555 on March 08, 2008, 05:26:15 PM
i think im gonna download AH-2 on my PS-3 lol, do u guys know if an X-52 will work if i plug it in?



-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: BBBB on March 08, 2008, 05:38:43 PM
If you install Linux it should though one of the USB ports. I just bought a 250gb HD, I am going to swap out the HD in my PS3 and then I am going to install Linux. I found out today, none of this voids the PS3 warranty so why not.

 I am not sure I will be able to run AHII on the PS3 though. I remember someone here on the forums was able to install AHII on a Linux machine. I am not sure if they used an emulator to run it or what. If they used an emulator then there is no way that I can run AHII, not in a playable fashion anyways, but I will try.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: ink on March 08, 2008, 06:35:49 PM
i think it would be a good idea,
  and all this talk about sqweekers, we where all there once and it would be that many more tagets,
for us to shoot at

my worthless $.02
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Rufrider on December 14, 2010, 08:26:41 PM
See Rule #10
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: falcon23 on December 14, 2010, 08:44:24 PM
FIRST IN on the NECRO BUMP...
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Rufrider on December 14, 2010, 09:29:09 PM
No joke i am seriously interested to find out if anyone has made it work
.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: SunBat on December 14, 2010, 09:35:31 PM
Lazer plays with a nintendo controller. Ask him.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: 68ZooM on December 14, 2010, 09:45:03 PM
No joke i am seriously interested to find out if anyone has made it work
.

http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html (http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html)  right from sony how to.... follow the links
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Threeup on December 14, 2010, 10:44:35 PM
At the monent I start up a computer and fly a WW2 combat simulation. I have to open a window and load a file which allows me to participate with fellow enthusiasts in this simulated re-creation of one of the last centuries major conflicts.

If I had to push a button on a game console,it would become a game. I don't care if nothing changed, it would be a game.

Aces High on a game console is like a Prius with a gun rack - it can be done but should it?
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2010, 10:53:51 PM
http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html (http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html)  right from sony how to.... follow the links

That's old and no longer valid.  When the slim PS3 came out, there was a firmware update that disabled the use of 3rd party operating systems.  If you were one of the unfortunate that had Linux and updated to that particular firmware, well you were SOL afterwards. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Krusty on December 14, 2010, 11:00:39 PM
The PS3 has a limited hardware setup. All consoles are limited compared to the average gaming machine. They "look so smooth" because they cut down maps, resources, omit parts of the game that simply don't run, reduce the texture size...

In short, they have to custom tailor the game directly to the hardware because it has to fit on the limited platform.

All PC games that have console ports have to do this. The PC version is always the best. That is NOT counting console games ported to PCs. They may have more hardware options but it's too late -- the entire game development, design, and layout, was already handicapped from the beginning.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Gaboon on December 15, 2010, 02:02:05 AM
In the next major patch for PS3 they are removing the ability to DL any other OS onto the PS3
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: BoilerDown on December 15, 2010, 02:22:35 AM
I"m bummed this is a necroed thread because I think its a good discussion, that just happened to die out 2 years ago.

The PS3 supports USB, so there need not be a controller issue... even if the game only supported one brand of sticks/throttles/pedals, that would be enough.  And AH runs on pretty low end hardware, so it should be doable when you know every PS3 is the same and can code right to its specs. 

The problem is that the code isn't the same, at least with the 360 there might be a lot of similarities with a PC, but I don't think that's the case with the PS3.  So you'd have to spend twice as much time developing each patch, assuming you decide to deliver updates to the PS3 version of the game (Everquest 1 for macs has been on the same patch level for 6 years or something like that, and never got the expansions past PoP, so this is not a given or a necessity for that matter).

The upside is that you have a chance to significantly increase the subscriber-base which means more money to HiTech.  And also to joystick manufacturers that work with the game... you may say the increase in sales would be negligible, but I'd argue that both AH and joysticks are already niche markets, so even a small increase in subscribers (or bought joysticks) might be significant, hugely significant if the game catches on... just look at Guitar Hero.

But for whatever reason HTC has never decided to do much more than the occasional TV add on the History or Military channels in the way of advertising or pushing to expand the player base.  Its a legit way to go if you want to maintain control of your own company, as expansion often (but not always) means selling shares and giving up some control.  Oh and Skuzzy might have to be cloned if the PS3 users find the forums... after a point the community almost always gets worse the more anonymous people join it.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Tyrannis on December 15, 2010, 02:59:15 AM
when i had my "supercharged" 500gb ps3, i was actually able to download "aceshigh". it would show up in the game sections in its own private folder, it would have the AH logo, but whenever i would try to launch it, my ps3 would freeze.

it would be great to bring this to the console gaming market. IL2 has made the leap. aceshigh could aswell.


a big +1 to this.


just HTC, do us a favor, if you EVER decide to do this in the future, make it a playstation exclusive. no reason to waste your time with failbox  :noid
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Bomber49 on December 15, 2010, 09:46:31 AM
On the issue with the DVI input on older model HD sets, you can purchase from bestbuy an hdmi to dvi adapter that allows you to convert the hdmi signal to DVI. I have a similiar setup, older tv rca :banana: scenium with ps3 with hdmi ports only. the unit is small and snaps into place on the dvi, cost is around 22 us dollars.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Krusty on December 15, 2010, 10:51:37 AM
The IL2 console games have such laughable physics as to be purely arcade shootemups. There's little if any computing the performance of the plane, the bullets, the damage, etc. It's all visual eye candy with no substance.

This is the price you pay for putting something on a console. People have been saying PC gaming is dying because consoles are killing it, but this is just false wishful thinking put out by console users. PC gaming will continue forever because frankly you can't get decent games on consoles. 104 key keyboard + optical mouse + good speakers + high resolution monitor + countless USB devices with wide ranges of inputs and axes far far outstrips a 2-joystick console controller.

Then there are the millions of anti-social people that would be kicked off any team in real life, the little 7 year olds that cuss over the speakers like daddy must (where else do they get it?) and the instant-gratification-or-else-this-game-sucks types of gamers that are rampant on consoles (not to mention the folks that want instant gratification so bad they have horribly hacked recent games like MW2 and BC2 -- on CONSOLES no less!)....


So, 100,000 "NO"s to putting Aces High on a console. HTC doesn't need that kind of clientelle. When they're serious enough to get a PC and learn how to use it (it's NOT that hard) they will appreciate all they can do with it and will be welcome. Until they mature past the console gaming level, who wants them????
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: guncrasher on December 15, 2010, 11:31:33 AM
Cool, maybe I'll buy the playstation with my new aces high visa card and up in my free 262  :D.

semp
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: 321BAR on December 15, 2010, 11:41:49 AM
when i had my "supercharged" 500gb ps3, i was actually able to download "aceshigh". it would show up in the game sections in its own private folder, it would have the AH logo, but whenever i would try to launch it, my ps3 would freeze.

it would be great to bring this to the console gaming market. IL2 has made the leap. aceshigh could aswell.


a big +1 to this.


just HTC, do us a favor, if you EVER decide to do this in the future, make it a playstation exclusive. no reason to waste your time with failbox  :noid
yeah that failbox also is having a 720 coming out soon :aok and btw how did failbox fail when it released before the PS3 and took the market for a few months on its own and also has better games?
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Tyrannis on December 15, 2010, 12:00:05 PM
^ it fails because it was in such a rush to come out first, that it had some major hardware problems.

-the dreaded ROD(ring of death)

-discs being scratched when you sit it sideways.

-overheating issues.

-poorly constructed. some ppls exbox360s were falling apart.

-choosed hddvd which lost the contest to bluray.

-charges for online.

-was sued twice.

-is copying playstation and sony with its new "kinnect" (before any says its not a copy, ps2 had the eyetoy, way before nintendo or microsoft got into the field, sony allready sued the wii over a hardware issue, cant remember)

and how does it "have better games"?
 all xbox has in its corner is halo and gears.

ps3 has ALOT more exclusives and which are also higher rated.

-uncharted 1&2.

killzone 2-3

littlebigplanet 1-2.

scott pilgrim vs the world.

resistance 1-2-3

gran turismo 5.

metal gear solid 4

and i forget some others at the moment. but thats more exclusives than failbox has. and higher rated aswell.


only reason xbox "took the market" was price only. ps3 back thn was $700, sure was expensive, but it was worth what you got. only problem ive ever had with my ps3 was a freezing issue while playing fallout:new vegas.

matched with ps3's

-free internet

-bluray movies/games.

-web browser.

-home.

makes it the better console.
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Krusty on December 15, 2010, 12:55:25 PM
That's kind of like saying "it's better to lose your right leg than your left" -- when you could keep both (read: game on a PC).
Title: Re: Aces High via Sony Playstation 3?
Post by: Skuzzy on December 15, 2010, 01:07:23 PM
Does anyone pay any attention to the posting dates?