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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pepe on April 02, 2001, 03:50:00 AM
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Yesterday, the valerous and noble Bishops rode an Off-The-Map raid on Rookland's HQ. Whatt??? No, no, it can't be. Only Rook pilots do that, Remember?
After all that chest-thumping, we are all (more or less) the same. The mass is amorphous and brainless....
So, please, anyone willing to give moral lessons, and standing a higher position in fairness terms, please don't. At least, save us from that kind of stupidity. If stupid are the ones flying like that, even more is the one trying to argue that "my country don't" or something like that.
Lastly, to that group Bishops, nice piece of strategy. Facing terrible odds (you doubled Rooks' numbers) you managed to implement and successfully execute a subtle and risky plan. Now we all play in common terms. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Cheers,
Pepe
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I haven't a clue who it was Pepe but Knights did the same to Bishops in an attempt to capture a field; they failed. Luckily it doesn't happen that often but I agree that it can be damn annoying at times.
Regards
Nexx
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The only way to stop this is by reporting them. If you are flying for my country, and off the map trying to cheat your way into enemy territory, I WILL report your location to the enemy and guide their interceptors to a successful intercept.
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Pepe you are sure it was not Krook,Rnight, Bnight or Krish or some other country (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) ?
In each country some people do that I even have done once that on squad night (wouldn't have done it but squad night is squad night I've to obey ...)
Btw it's a legal tactic cause AH autorize it
I dont agree with it but "what could be done would be done"
(http://saintaw.cyberspace.be/straffo_sig.gif)
[This message has been edited by straffo (edited 04-02-2001).]
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Its not a country that does it.
It's people.
As such, the best way to deal with it is to report friendlies going off map to enemies. Zig did it, I do it when I see it.
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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That's the point:
a) It's people, not country. Thus, no need to talk about contries, or post a country doing this'n that. This is only add salt to the wound.
b) It's in our hands to stop it. Just report on open channel exact situation and target (if possible) If I ever know of this in Rookland, take for granted I will tell on open channel.
Cheers,
Pepe
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Originally posted by straffo:
Btw it's a legal tactic cause AH autorize it
I dont agree with it but "what could be done would be done"
May I also hack the planes?. It can be done, so won't be immoral to do it.
Is this what you mean?
[[This message has been edited by straffo (edited 04-02-2001).][/B]
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Originally posted by Carlos:
May I also hack the planes?. It can be done, so won't be immoral to do it.
Is this what you mean?
Nope it's against the term of services (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) read the licence.txt file
extract :
<snip>
2. RESTRICTIONS.
Alterations. You may not alter the SOFTWARE.
Authorized Hosts. For host-based multiplayer services, the SOFTWARE must be used only to connect to authorized hosts. You are not permitted to use the SOFTWARE to connect to hosts that have not been authorized by HiTech
Limitations of Reverse Engineering, Decompilation and Disassembly. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the SOFTWARE,
except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation.
Rental. You may not rent or lease or lend the SOFTWARE.
<continued>
So you can't (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Btw I've the competence to do it part of my life is building drivers and other black magic (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) but where will go the fun if I do such thing ?
But I was speaking just about this particular point : Off Map flight we can all do that this is not an unfair advantage given to some people,we have all the moral choice to do or not this.
The fact that I don't agree with this technique (cause it ruin my fun) don't implie that I will on my own interdict it to other players it's a game play concern wich should be managed by the HTC team.
(http://saintaw.cyberspace.be/straffo_sig.gif)
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btw it as been done and perhaps would be done again ...
see this thread : http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/005607.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/005607.html)
This one is really outstanding ! and obvious (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://ya.sakura.ne.jp/~micchy/244sentai/shots/ah_hacked_01.jpg)
(http://saintaw.cyberspace.be/straffo_sig.gif)
<edit> Can someone send me some spare finger and a bit of brain ? seams I'm unable to do a post correctly this afternoon ...
French wine/food Rulez (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) ...
[This message has been edited by straffo (edited 04-02-2001).]
[This message has been edited by straffo (edited 04-02-2001).]
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Carlos, dejalo estar por ahora, he vuelto a mandar los emails q mande el viernes, si para el Jueves o Viernes de esta semana no hay respuesta entonces ya pensaremos en hacer algo mas que decirles a estos pazguatos lo que sabemos ok?.
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Ben tient ...
Moi aussi je peux parler dans une autre langue même que vous n'allez pas être beaucoup a comprendre ce que je dit (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
n'est ce pas ?
Non mais et puis quoi encore (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dweebing and Cheating are 2 different animals. While Dweebing (call it gaming the game, or these kind of things) are, roghly talking, annoyances in an otherwise great game, Cheats are not.
There are ways (AFAIK) to cheat the game that are not against the literal of the terms of service. Wether they are or are not in evident breach of the terms of use, I am sure these things are top in the Htc. list of priorities, and, should ever come to their knowledge, I expect their most intense efforts not only to stop the thing to happen, but to ban the trespasser in Htc's hosts.
I do not need to be informed of this, except If I am the sender of the proof, or the person asking for a solution to a cheat. I posted time and time before that I trust Htc., as they give consistent signs that they care for they business, and I will keep doing so unless I have proof on the contrary.
Cheers,
Pepe
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Btw, I'm just back form an "Spanish Cuisine Show" and....not ready to concur with you straffo... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
And I agree with your french post.
-> Que sí, RAM, que es de mala educación (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Cheers,
Pepe
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la bonne blague (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Pepe:
Btw, I'm just back form an "Spanish Cuisine Show" and....not ready to concur with you straffo... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Better don't start or we will become fat and lazy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (and of course without winner (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))
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Originally posted by straffo:
Ben tient ...
Moi aussi je peux parler dans une autre langue même que vous n'allez pas être beaucoup a comprendre ce que je dit (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
n'est ce pas ?
Non mais et puis quoi encore (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
straffo, fais pas de blagues, est ce que tu es con?.
Je peux te comprendre aussi bien en anglais que dans la langue de Moliere, et beaucoup d'autres.
Il faut être dans le Monde, c'est tout.
QUE TE HAS CREIDO BOBO?
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Sorry for the English reader but as it's a personnal attack I won't answer in English to avoid misunderstanding between me and Carlos
est ce que tu es con?.
En 1er je ne me suis pas permis de t'insulter.
En 2eme je parles aussi l'espagnol,allemand anglais et bien sur français mais je pense que si Pepe à choisi de poster en anglais c'est pour que les lecteurs Finlandais Suedois Hollandais Anglais et tout les autres puissent lire son message et donc participer.
Malheureusement je pense que ce thread est maintenant mort du fait de l'usage d'une autre langue que l'anglais ...
Je pense que apres une boone nuit tu devrais te rendre compte que tu t'es un peu enervé et pour pas grand chose en plus.
Je n'attend pas d'excuse je ne suis pas optimiste a ce point sur la nature humaine.
(http://saintaw.cyberspace.be/straffo_sig.gif)
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Originally posted by straffo:
Je n'attend pas d'excuse je ne suis pas optimiste a ce point sur la nature humaine.
Mais excuse moi, mon pote.
C'est a jeux, memme les "post".
Si tu t'enerves par mes responses, je rigole.
Rien personel. Tu devrais savoir.
Amities.
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I know who it was, and I'm surprised you don't! He got shot down for it! He was on open channel saying "Stealth Lancaster mode on!", etc.
I comm'd him and told him (on Bish channel) that he was showing poor sportsmanship and that I wouldn't do it.
Heh, Ice and I have turned back from off-map defense, just to avoid accusations.
It is still a cheap tactic.
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Voss
13th TAS
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Mais excuse moi, mon pote.
C'est a jeux, memme les "post".
Si tu t'enerves par mes responses, je rigole.
Rien personel. Tu devrais savoir.
Amities
Je veux bein admettre m'être un peu importé mais le manque de smiley fait que je n'ai pas pu voir d'ironie ou d'humour dans ton post.
Je suis en général assez receptif a l'ironie et l'humour (fait une recherche sur mes <> post et tu le constatera (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
Je ne peux donc que te conseiller d'utiliser plus les smiley tu fera mieux passer ton message et en plus il n'y aura pas de problème d'interpretation.
Exemple (faut toujours que mon coté professeur resorte (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))
May I also hack the planes? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
là je peux voir que tu te moque (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
It can be done, so won't be immoral to do it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
je le constate ici que te prend le contre pied de mon raisonement pas de probleme (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Is this what you mean? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
clairement ironique... pas de probléme non plus
Amicalement (et sans rancune j'espére)
Frédéric