Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Majors on March 09, 2008, 10:27:06 AM
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Hi Mates
Since we now have B-25C and H. Wonder if HT could develop skip bombs (500lb with 3 second fuse) and parafrags for low level missions against shiips and airfields. This was B-25's primary missions in the Pacific.
Would be fun and new aspect to low level bombing. Now we have to pull up to 1500 ft to arm bombs. With these could bomb at 500 ft with throttles wide open.
Very historical.
Cheers
Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in RAF (and perhaps AH too)
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I've never really known too much about this method, but it seems like a fine idea.
Also, it should take away from the current trend of low-level / dive-bombing CVs with heavy, 4 engine bombers.
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Yossarian
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I'd rather have the delayed fuze than parafrags.
The parafrags were small, designed more for killing people and soft objects.
Delay fusing on the other hand would let us drop 500lb bombs on target from low level without being blown to pieces.
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Very cool idea...
I vividly remember pics in historical books of 25's dropping parafrags on airfields..... now that could be way cool!
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Very cool idea...
I vividly remember pics in historical books of 25's dropping parafrags on airfields..... now that could be way cool!
parafrags would be useless delayed timer might be fun, but IMHO they should be the last thing on ht's to do list.
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Parafrags were used against airfields to make runways unusable by blowing a bunch of craters in them. Since we can't knock out runways there's no real use for parafrags.
MAYBE if HTC ever added full infantry units....
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Or a runway which had actual 'working' craters though that would likely be difficult to add.
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Or a runway which had actual 'working' craters though that would likely be difficult to add.
We had that in AW. In IMHO it sucked, if you think its easy to knock out an air field now. Just imagine the tardlets just having to hit the runway with eggs instead of a shed.
Just say no to cratering a runway to shut down a base.
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There were working craters in AH a long time ago. People were quite upset to lose their planes immediately after spawning to RWY, because there was practically no way of seeing one had a crater in front of him. Thus they were soon changed into no-collide objects.
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I'm sure we can take out a runway in Aces High...
In the many times when I've been messing around in the offline mode, I've noticed that in the "Objects settings" bit of "Settings", runways are listed, just they take 125 1,000 pound bombs to destroy (and then they spawn back after about 2 or 3 minutes). I guess that once you finally managed to destroy the runway, the planes would just spawn from another runway/hanger.
Anyway, I'd still like to have skip-bombing.
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Yossarian
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So in theory, the runway hardness can be set down low enough that they can be destroyed?
Question is, how would this affect a plane trying to take off or land on that runway?
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I am kinda iffy on the skip bombs, being as water is a hard surface in game. But para-frags would be great! :aok
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Parafrags were used against airfields to make runways unusable by blowing a bunch of craters in them. Since we can't knock out runways there's no real use for parafrags.
MAYBE if HTC ever added full infantry units....
I doubt very much that a 24 lb warhead would be better at cratering than a 1,000 lb
one.
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Saxman the runways used to be destroyable. A few lancasters dropping their load used to be enough. Planes would roll over the ground under the runway, which was usualy rough ground.. We don't even have rough ground anymore..
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I always wonder why people ask for parafrags. They would be as useful as using a spit1 to sink a CV using it's .303s.
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Parafrags might be useful on towns and GV colums depending on their concentration and warhead size. The delayed fuse would be great for on the deck bombing without the intant trip to the tower.
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Yossarian, you can destroy the runway "texture" but it doesn't effect planes taking off.
Just looks like dirt instead of blacktop.
Actually not being able to bomb runways is both a good and a bad thing.
On the plus side, there was no faster way to shut down an attack, rip up their runway and the attack died.
On the Minus side, it SUCKED trying to defend a field that constantly had bombs blowing chunks out of the runway. Even a 250 lb bomb blew a crater big enough to rip your gear off and all the attendant damage.
Plus you'd ussually swerve enough to not be able to get a good landing. Assuming you didn't blow up.
No, Runways not being able to get blown full of holes is one of the things AH got RIGHT in my opinion.
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<Insert remark about "Those who try to operate from a base under attack..." here>
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Hi Mates
Great response. Parafrags would take out acks and unarmed ground vehicles. Also anyone lining up for take off. But mainly acks. In WWII they were used on parked aircraft and acks.
Appreciate all your comments.
Cheers
Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in RAF
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im up for parafrags as a deacking tool, would be nice
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Parafrags would be pretty fun for killing ack (or at least attempting to). The A-20 could carry 40 23lb. parafrags. I'm not sure of the exact number the B-25's could carry.
3 picture sequence of parafrag drop on air field gun positions (Goeroe air field). 13th Air Force, 42nd Bomb Group
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll75/CartoonFlyer/Goeroe1.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll75/CartoonFlyer/Goeroe2.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll75/CartoonFlyer/GoeroeExpBombs.jpg)
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There were 250lb parafrag models which would work rather nicely on a town. A few noe B-25 formations would be a fun trip on strat too. The parachutes are already modeled along with the 250 lb bombs so I cant imagine it taking to much time.
From what I know the delay fuse would be rather easy to code. Simply add a varible delay function to the fuses we have now. I could be wrong but from doing PLC programming this is my opinion. The delay fuse is too easy to game tho. One lanc at 50 feet, drop 4k cookie with 3 second delay, fly away, and watch the whining. Now if you made it a perked ord...
All of this has been asked for before by quite a few people including myself. With all the requests I havent seen any input from HTC and hopefully they add thier thoughts soon.
Strip(er)